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post 10000232032 06-26-2026, 12:40 PM
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What would happen here? Double play?

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I would say its def a double play. Buddy boio should have booked it to second, but was too lazy.
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
I would say its def a double play. Buddy boio should have booked it to second, but was too lazy.
I would say like an infield fly rule but I know it's not a fly ball?? No idea
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post 10000232051 06-26-2026, 12:48 PM
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getting a hit automatically forces the guy on 1st off, cant have 2 people on the same base

double play



also who tf watches men's softball
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Originally Posted By Procta
getting a hit automatically forces the guy on 1st off, cant have 2 people on the same base

double play
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You gotta be a huge loser to not hit it to the outfield everytime in slow pitch softball
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway
You gotta be a huge loser to not hit it to the outfield everytime in slow pitch softball
like homerun every time at bat
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway
You gotta be a huge loser to not hit it to the outfield everytime in slow pitch softball
Was gonna say this but didn't seem like i was braggin. I played 5 years in modified and them played slow pitch tournys. It was either flyball or homerun for me in the slow pitch shit
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Double play.
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Proper order for double play in this scenario is tag the lead runner, step on the base. If he stepped on the base first then tagged the runner already on the base then only the batter is out. Hard to tell from that.
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post 10000232249 06-26-2026, 03:15 PM
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It’s not a double play. If he’s on the bag you can’t tag him.

Basically it breaks down like this,

1. Runner on first can be forced at second or tagged while off the bag; batter can still be forced at first
2. Batter is out if first base is touched, eliminating the force at second (runner at first still safe
3. 2 runners cannot occupy a single base. If the batter reaches first before either of the above happen, the lead runner can be tagged out as he’s then “forced” off the first base bag.


Contrary to what you think, the runner doesn’t have to run. You just don’t ever see someone stay there because it’s retarded to stay there.

If they tag him on first, he’s considered part of the base which forces the batter out and eliminates the force (if the batter is yet to reach the base that is, otherwise the runner is out)
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The batter is only entitled to first base if he reaches it safely ,the base runner is only forced to vacate by a throw to 2nd base

Cant just step and tag ,batter is out ,runner is safe




A runner is entitled to the base they occupy until they are forced to vacate it. Because the batter has not yet reached first base safely, the force on the runner at first is not technically in effect. Therefore, if the runner stays in contact with the base, the defense cannot just tag them out. The defense throws to second: If the first baseman throws to second base, the runner must then attempt to advance (because a force out is now in play at second). The defense tags the runner: If the first baseman fields the grounder, steps on first to retire the batter, and then runs over to tag the runner who is still standing on the bag, the runner is safe.
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For the video only the batter is out. He tagged the runner standing on the bag which is equal to tagging the base itself which is the short answer.
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post 10000232285 06-26-2026, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By wasp9166
The batter is only entitled to first base if he reaches it safely ,the base runner is only forced to vacate by a throw to 2nd base

Cant just step and tag ,batter is out ,runner is safe




A runner is entitled to the base they occupy until they are forced to vacate it. Because the batter has not yet reached first base safely, the force on the runner at first is not technically in effect. Therefore, if the runner stays in contact with the base, the defense cannot just tag them out. The defense throws to second: If the first baseman throws to second base, the runner must then attempt to advance (because a force out is now in play at second). The defense tags the runner: If the first baseman fields the grounder, steps on first to retire the batter, and then runs over to tag the runner who is still standing on the bag, the runner is safe.
It's an interesting play. The ball in play forces the runner at first to vacate. If they choose not to is up to them but if they're tagged before the batter is out it's the same as tagging them at any point on the way to 2nd. So runner first then bag is double play. That's why order of operations matter and if the first basemen steps on the bag first, then tags the runner, then the runner is safe. Because by stepping on the bag the batter is out and the runner no longer has to vacate, the base becomes his again and he's on it so safe.
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post 10000232287 06-26-2026, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By JamesG6626
It's an interesting play. The ball in play forces the runner at first to vacate. If they choose not to is up to them but if they're tagged before the batter is out it's the same as tagging them at any point on the way to 2nd. That's why order of operations matter and if the first basemen steps on the bag first, then tags the runner, then the runner is safe. Because by stepping on the bag the batter is out and the runner no longer has to vacate, the base becomes his again and he's on it so safe.
Hes not forced to vacate unless the fielder throws to 2nd ,the hit doesnt force him to vacate

It all depends how its played ,if the fielder never steps on the bag ,the runner would be out ,once the hitter reached the bag

One or the other is safe ,it cannot be a double play

9 times out of 10 ,a fielder will step on bag tho

why this isnt done more often to avoid a double play

Probably because pros know to throw to 2nd and softball dont
post 10000232320 06-26-2026, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
It’s not a double play. If he’s on the bag you can’t tag him.

Basically it breaks down like this,

1. Runner on first can be forced at second or tagged while off the bag; batter can still be forced at first
2. Batter is out if first base is touched, eliminating the force at second (runner at first still safe
3. 2 runners cannot occupy a single base. If the batter reaches first before either of the above happen, the lead runner can be tagged out as he’s then “forced” off the first base bag.


Contrary to what you think, the runner doesn’t have to run. You just don’t ever see someone stay there because it’s retarded to stay there.

If they tag him on first, he’s considered part of the base which forces the batter out and eliminates the force (if the batter is yet to reach the base that is, otherwise the runner is out)
SO really the person on bag isn't a retard knowing they would have shot at double play - he just remains anccepts the batter will be out then?
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Originally Posted By wasp9166
Hes not forced to vacate unless the fielder throws to 2nd ,the hit doesnt force him to vacate

It all depends how its played ,if the fielder never steps on the bag ,the runner would be out ,once the hitter reached the bag

One or the other is safe ,it cannot be a double play

9 times out of 10 ,a fielder will step on bag tho

why this isnt done more often to avoid a double play

Probably because pros know to throw to 2nd and softball dont
The whole point that it's a force out at second though is that the runner is forced to vacate first when the ball is in play. Think about a standard 6-4-3 double play. If the runner never leaves first it's only one out?
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post 10000232325 06-26-2026, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By JamesG6626
The whole point that it's a force out at second though is that the runner is forced to vacate first when the ball is in play. Think about a standard 6-4-3 double play. If the runner never leaves first it's only one out?
The runner is not forced by ball being in play if the ball is never thrown to 2nd base

Pros will always do this ,so ,you never see it happen

The runner runs because he knows it will be thrown to 2nd
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Originally Posted By RICHSTRONG
SO really the person on bag isn't a retard knowing they would have shot at double play - he just remains anccepts the batter will be out then?
No he is a retard. Staying on first doesn't make the double play less possible. You just can't tag him. Can still throw to second and back to first for the double play. The force at second is still in play even if he doesn't run, you just can't tag someone standing on a bag.

Running at the very least can work out if there's an error. Imagine not running, they throw it in the outfield then throw it back in to get you at second because you're standing on first. So yeah, you're a fucking idiot.
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Originally Posted By wasp9166
The runner is not forced by ball being in play if the ball is never thrown to 2nd base

Pros will always do this ,so ,you never see it happen

The runner runs because he knows it will be thrown to 2nd
Exactly and if something does go wrong he's standing on 2nd instead of looking like an ass standing on first and getting forced at second when the defense recovers from the error.
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Originally Posted By JamesG6626
The whole point that it's a force out at second though is that the runner is forced to vacate first when the ball is in play. Think about a standard 6-4-3 double play. If the runner never leaves first it's only one out?
He's not forced to vacate when it's in play. That's where you're wrong.

He's forced to vacate when a trailing runner reaches his bag. That's true regardless of a force play at another bag. The term "forced" is that he's forced out at second base in the sense he doesn't need to be tagged. That's not the same thing as being forced off the bag. The force off the bag only occurs after a trailing runner reaches the same bag (meaning if you're still on the bag, you're not on it by rule since the trailing runner now occupies it)
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I just asked Grok and he said it's a double play and the runner on first is forced to vacate





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The throw to 2nd creates the force out ,not the ball being hit

Are softball and baseball rules different??

If that's the case ,I've contributed enough lol
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Originally Posted By wasp9166
Hes not forced to vacate unless the fielder throws to 2nd
Technically no, but we're on the same page so this is just semantics. There is a force out at the second base bag, yes, and the reason is because there is a play happening where a trailing runner HAS to go the bag he occupies, meaning he will inevitably be forced off his bag when that trailing runner reaches his bag. But he's only forced off when the trailing runner reaches. If that trailing runner is tagged out before getting to the bag that removes the force for him to move.

But like I said this is mostly semantics and he will be forced out at second of course due to the batter still being in play and inevitably forcing him.
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Double play. Can't just stand there on a ground ball
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Originally Posted By LDARidonot
Double play. Can't just stand there on a ground ball
Learn to read
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Originally Posted By gwg77
I just asked Grok and he said it's a double play and the runner on first is forced to vacate
The source next that second bullet point is literally facebook bro. The next source on the sequence of play section for #2 is then reddit.

This is why AI shouldn't have public access. Most of you are too stupid to verify accuracy
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All else I'll say is that I've played all my life, even currently. I've never been taught a baserunning strategy that depends on where the ball is going in a force play situation.
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Originally Posted By JamesG6626
All else I'll say is that I've played all my life, even currently. I've never been taught a baserunning strategy that depends on where the ball is going in a force play situation.
Well,the point for a normal thinking player is to get to 2nd b4 they throw it to 2nd

A softball chud creates a not normally seen scenario

Its certainly not taught that way
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
The source next that second bullet point is literally facebook bro. The next source on the sequence of play section for #2 is then reddit.

This is why AI shouldn't have public access. Most of you are too stupid to verify accuracy
Keep coping. All you had to do was keep reading. Lmao.


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