Thread: Mayweather is the P4P greatest
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Mayweather is the P4P greatest
I wonder when people will stop being blinded by their hate for the guy and realize just how incredible his career was.
He's the best boxer of all time and no one can take that title from him. One of the few boxers to go undefeated in a career, fought killers, most world title wins in history, beaten the most amount of world champions than any boxer...no one can mimick that
People **** on him and say he's been fighting cans, he hasn't had any easy match ups since the day he turned pro.
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- First man to stop Hall of famer and world champ..Genaro Hernandez
- TKO'ed undisputed lightweight champ and HOF'er Chico Corrales
- Beat one of the best LW's in boxing history Jose Castillo TWICE
- Dominated Hall of Famer Arturo Gatti in a sweep
- Slept former World Champ Ricky Hatton
- Beat one of the best of all time in Oscar De La Hoya
- Ran through Zab Judah
- Showed his courage and heart by coming back from almost getting knocked out by Shane Mosley, and dominating him the next 12 rounds
- Beat Canelo, Pacman, Berto, Guerrero, Maidana, and Coto in his last few fights.
for ****s suck, Canelo just KTFO of a beast in Amir Khan and Berto put Ortiz to sleep.
This mans track record is outstanding, and the fact that he was in his late thirties as a lighter fighter and still smooth is incredible.
Anyone who says this man isn't the GOAT is a liar. 20-30 years ago the top guys had 70-0 records before losing cause all of the people they fought were cans. Floyd has been fighting the best for the last 10 years.
He's the best boxer of all time and no one can take that title from him. One of the few boxers to go undefeated in a career, fought killers, most world title wins in history, beaten the most amount of world champions than any boxer...no one can mimick that
People **** on him and say he's been fighting cans, he hasn't had any easy match ups since the day he turned pro.
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- First man to stop Hall of famer and world champ..Genaro Hernandez
- TKO'ed undisputed lightweight champ and HOF'er Chico Corrales
- Beat one of the best LW's in boxing history Jose Castillo TWICE
- Dominated Hall of Famer Arturo Gatti in a sweep
- Slept former World Champ Ricky Hatton
- Beat one of the best of all time in Oscar De La Hoya
- Ran through Zab Judah
- Showed his courage and heart by coming back from almost getting knocked out by Shane Mosley, and dominating him the next 12 rounds
- Beat Canelo, Pacman, Berto, Guerrero, Maidana, and Coto in his last few fights.
for ****s suck, Canelo just KTFO of a beast in Amir Khan and Berto put Ortiz to sleep.
This mans track record is outstanding, and the fact that he was in his late thirties as a lighter fighter and still smooth is incredible.
Anyone who says this man isn't the GOAT is a liar. 20-30 years ago the top guys had 70-0 records before losing cause all of the people they fought were cans. Floyd has been fighting the best for the last 10 years.
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Many people he fought were well beyond their prime fighting years. He also found a somewhat "cheap" way to abuse the scoring system used by the judges. Not saying he wasn't good at what he did but he made a mockery of the sport by showing how easily points can be abused in a sport where anything but a knockout is going to be controversial. His whole strategy was to run away then roll the punches off his shoulder and then hug the other fighter if they got too close to him that his system wouldn't work. That way the ref would break them up and create the distance he relies on.
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06-06-2016, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By ppscalzo⏩
You're just repeating arguments you've seen on fb posts.Many people he fought were well beyond their prime fighting years. He also found a somewhat "cheap" way to abuse the scoring system used by the judges. Not saying he wasn't good at what he did but he made a mockery of the sport by showing how easily points can be abused in a sport where anything but a knockout is going to be controversial. His whole strategy was to run away then roll the punches off his shoulder and then hug the other fighter if they got too close to him that his system wouldn't work. That way the ref would break them up and create the distance he relies on.
You don't know chit about boxing and you've obviously never laced the gloves and stepped in a ring.
Lmao
06-06-2016, 01:31 PM
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06-06-2016, 01:34 PM
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just looked at this match history, do boxers box that infrequently? i never knew they had so little fights a year.
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Originally Posted By DarkOmen⏩
Strong assumption. You don't know chit about what I know. Great argument to my post here.You're just repeating arguments you've seen on fb posts.
You don't know chit about boxing.
You don't know chit about boxing.
Originally Posted By IsraeliPride⏩
Better you are the less you fight per year. Most higher ranked boxers will fight 2-3 times a year but when having to prove yourself you will fight more often.just looked at this match history, do boxers box that infrequently? i never knew they had so little fights a year.
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06-06-2016, 01:34 PM
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Lol it took like 6 years to make a fight with someone that should have happened in 2010.
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This guy disagrees.
06-06-2016, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By ppscalzo⏩
and the boxers get paid per fights? if so they gotta be paid a lot for every fight? or how does the paying system work if u know?Better you are the less you fight per year. Most higher ranked boxers will fight 2-3 times a year but when having to prove yourself you will fight more often.
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Originally Posted By IsraeliPride⏩
Per fight basis. You get more of the purse if you win.and the boxers get paid per fights? if so they gotta be paid a lot for every fight? or how does the paying system work if u know?
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Originally Posted By DarkOmen⏩
Weak.You're just repeating arguments you've seen on fb posts.
You don't know chit about boxing and you've obviously never laced the gloves and stepped in a ring.
Lmao
You don't know chit about boxing and you've obviously never laced the gloves and stepped in a ring.
Lmao
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06-06-2016, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By ppscalzo⏩
You obviously know 0 about boxing when you refer as Mayweather's boxing style as ''running and hugging'' LMAO. This is the argument that is said by all the ''haters'' who obviously know 0 about boxing.Strong assumption. You don't know chit about what I know. Great argument to my post here.
Better you are the less you fight per year. Most higher ranked boxers will fight 2-3 times a year but when having to prove yourself you will fight more often.
Better you are the less you fight per year. Most higher ranked boxers will fight 2-3 times a year but when having to prove yourself you will fight more often.
You don't know the basics of boxing which are footwork, elusiveness, ducking punches, counterattacks and defensive finesse. Clinching is also a part of boxing, it's like the time outs in hockey or football, it is perfectly legal, he only found a way to use everything boxing had to offer in his advantage. Mayweather is a technical genius and his boxing abilities are a delight for those who understand boxing. If you ever stepped once in a ring you would have realized how hard it is to box like he does, it takes major skill.
''BRB he ran the whole fight'', all the replays show him dodging punches and connecting with his right hand.
Yes you don't know chit about boxing and you're just repeating what everyone else is saying to sound smart.
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Originally Posted By ppscalzo⏩
im assuming that unless you are elite status you do lots of underground boxing, or something along those lines, otherwise u dont make that much imo.Per fight basis. You get more of the purse if you win.
that or just have another job on the side.
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06-06-2016, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By mabidi⏩
LOL Tyson isn't even top 20 greatest. I swear the misc has a boner for him.Only fighters he beat that I'd consider legit are guys like Spinks and a select few others. Any technical fighter he fought he got broken mentally by
06-06-2016, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Writingbrah⏩
you've got to be one dumb motherfukkerLOL Tyson isn't even top 20 greatest. I swear the misc has a boner for him
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I'm the greatest boxer who ever lived.
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Originally Posted By DarkOmen⏩
repped for boxing knowledge. anyone who knows anything about boxing/defense would understand that he's a technical genius. If anyone else could do what Mayweather has done...it'd be done. Yet guys like Canelo/Berto had nothing for him....and are now dominating their divisions.You could bring any argument against mayweather and still argue your point decently.
But the ''he only runs and hugs'' clearly shows that you know very little about boxing.
But the ''he only runs and hugs'' clearly shows that you know very little about boxing.
The mans fight IQ is untouchable
06-06-2016, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By miscHelix⏩
don't care about the neg, I'm more concerned about your underlying homosexuality for Tyson.Hurr durr unbelievable powers and speed BRB GREATEST OF ALL TIME. Mother ****er got knocked out by Buster fuking Douglas. Douglas got knocked out in what 1-2 rounds after his fight with Tyson? Tyson isn't even in the Top 20 greatest boxers of all time.
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Originally Posted By DarkOmen⏩
His footwork was basis as hell as he just circled around the ring. That is one of the first things you learn in boxingYou obviously know 0 about boxing when you refer as Mayweather's boxing style as ''running and hugging'' LMAO. This is the argument that is said by all the ''haters'' who obviously know 0 about boxing.
You don't know the basics of boxing which are footwork, elusiveness, ducking punches, counterattacks and defensive finesse. Clinching is also a part of boxing. Mayweather is a technical genius and his boxing abilities are a delight for those who understand boxing. If you ever stepped once in a ring you would have realized how hard it is to box like he does, it takes major skill.
''BRB he ran the whole fight'', all the replays show him dodging punches and connecting with his right hand.
Yes you don't know chit about boxing and you're just repeating what everyone else is saying to sound smart.
You don't know the basics of boxing which are footwork, elusiveness, ducking punches, counterattacks and defensive finesse. Clinching is also a part of boxing. Mayweather is a technical genius and his boxing abilities are a delight for those who understand boxing. If you ever stepped once in a ring you would have realized how hard it is to box like he does, it takes major skill.
''BRB he ran the whole fight'', all the replays show him dodging punches and connecting with his right hand.
Yes you don't know chit about boxing and you're just repeating what everyone else is saying to sound smart.
He wasn't elusive by any means as he just rolled punches off his shoulder.
His ducking and dodging was minimal. Look at Ali and his speed.
His counter punches were very good. I will not take that away from him.
He abused the clinch in many of his later fights. brb ref has to break it up every 15 seconds.
"Connecting" punches doesn't mean chit if your opponent doesn't feel them. He hasn't had a knockout in years
He may have won all his fights and been successful but he was a shame to boxing and showed just how many flaws there are within the judging system.
Again you just assume I know chit about boxing but you know nothing about me.
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06-06-2016, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Writingbrah⏩
This. Like I always said, boxing is for people who can appreciate technical finesse and fighting IQ.repped for boxing knowledge. anyone who knows anything about boxing/defense would understand that he's a technical genius. If anyone else could do what Mayweather has done...it'd be done. Yet guys like Canelo/Berto had nothing for him....and are now dominating their divisions.
The mans fight IQ is untouchable
The mans fight IQ is untouchable
If you don't like this it's okay, MMA is probably the best pick for you.
But don't go around saying that mayweather only hugs when you have no clue of boxing.
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Would rather see Mayweather vs Charlie Z than than Mayweather vs Mcgregor
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Originally Posted By mabidi⏩
" But but he was so powerful, he was the best ever he ate children.. GOAT"you've got to be one dumb motherfukker
Most boxing analysts put him at #47-50 you fukin retard.
The guy he knocked out in that neg gif I'm pretty sure is Carl Williams. What's his record again?
06-06-2016, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By ppscalzo⏩
Again you just proved that you know nothing about boxing.His footwork was basis as hell as he just circled around the ring. That is one of the first things you learn in boxing
He wasn't elusive by any means as he just rolled punches off his shoulder.
His ducking and dodging was minimal. Look at Ali and his speed.
His counter punches were very good. I will not take that away from him.
He abused the clinch in many of his later fights. brb ref has to break it up every 15 seconds.
"Connecting" punches doesn't mean chit if your opponent doesn't feel them. He hasn't had a knockout in years
He may have won all his fights and been successful but he was a shame to boxing and showed just how many flaws there are within the judging system.
Again you just assume I know chit about boxing but you know nothing about me.
He wasn't elusive by any means as he just rolled punches off his shoulder.
His ducking and dodging was minimal. Look at Ali and his speed.
His counter punches were very good. I will not take that away from him.
He abused the clinch in many of his later fights. brb ref has to break it up every 15 seconds.
"Connecting" punches doesn't mean chit if your opponent doesn't feel them. He hasn't had a knockout in years
He may have won all his fights and been successful but he was a shame to boxing and showed just how many flaws there are within the judging system.
Again you just assume I know chit about boxing but you know nothing about me.
According to compubox Mayweather's opponent land on average 21% of their punches while he lands 58% of his punches. If this isn't a demonstration of ducking, dodging, elusiveness and counter punching than you are dumb.
The clinch is legal in boxing and there are no rules on a maximum of clinches you can do. Mayweather used it to his advantage, deal with it.
Judging in boxing is based on (in no particular order), defence, ring generalship, effective agression and clean and hard punches.
''Effective Aggression– Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it’s not exactly “effective.” Judgeslook for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring Generalship– The fighter whocontrols the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense – How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches.
Hard and Clean Punches – To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean''
The only argument you can make against mayweather is the hard and clean punches, but he stilldominatesopponents on the 3 other criteria. Although I could argue (and still win my argument) that may weather's punches although lacking power are still very clean. Meanwhile his opponent might land 1-2 good shots and more powerful but still gets outworked by the 10-15 clean ''weak'' punches thrown by mayweather.
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Originally Posted By DarkOmen⏩
rektAgain you just proved that you know nothing about boxing.
According to compubox Mayweather's opponent land on average 21% of their punches while he lands 58% of his punches. If this isn't a demonstration of ducking, dodging, elusiveness and counter punching than you are dumb.
The clinch is legal in boxing and there are no rules on a maximum of clinches you can do. Mayweather used it to his advantage, deal with it.
Judging in boxing is based on (in no particular order), defence, ring generalship, effective agression and clean and hard punches.
''Effective Aggression– Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it’s not exactly “effective.” Judgeslook for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring Generalship– The fighter whocontrols the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense – How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches.
Hard and Clean Punches – To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean''
The only argument you can make against mayweather is the hard and clean punches, but he stilldominatesopponents on the 3 other criteria. Although I could argue (and still win my argument) that may weather's punches although lacking power are still very clean. Meanwhile his opponent might land 1-2 good shots and more powerful but still gets outworked by the 10-15 clean ''weak'' punches thrown by mayweather.
According to compubox Mayweather's opponent land on average 21% of their punches while he lands 58% of his punches. If this isn't a demonstration of ducking, dodging, elusiveness and counter punching than you are dumb.
The clinch is legal in boxing and there are no rules on a maximum of clinches you can do. Mayweather used it to his advantage, deal with it.
Judging in boxing is based on (in no particular order), defence, ring generalship, effective agression and clean and hard punches.
''Effective Aggression– Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it’s not exactly “effective.” Judgeslook for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring Generalship– The fighter whocontrols the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense – How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches.
Hard and Clean Punches – To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean''
The only argument you can make against mayweather is the hard and clean punches, but he stilldominatesopponents on the 3 other criteria. Although I could argue (and still win my argument) that may weather's punches although lacking power are still very clean. Meanwhile his opponent might land 1-2 good shots and more powerful but still gets outworked by the 10-15 clean ''weak'' punches thrown by mayweather.
06-06-2016, 02:14 PM
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Best defensive boxer,,,imo not the greatest....
People that are not into boxing don't even know who the fu k Mayweather is (excluding America), but when you mention Tyson or Ali it's the whole different story.
People that are not into boxing don't even know who the fu k Mayweather is (excluding America), but when you mention Tyson or Ali it's the whole different story.
06-06-2016, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By DarkOmen⏩
Chit. I usually hate this dark omen dude but he destroyed you here mate. Do not respond and keep your dignityAgain you just proved that you know nothing about boxing.
According to compubox Mayweather's opponent land on average 21% of their punches while he lands 58% of his punches. If this isn't a demonstration of ducking, dodging, elusiveness and counter punching than you are dumb.
The clinch is legal in boxing and there are no rules on a maximum of clinches you can do. Mayweather used it to his advantage, deal with it.
Judging in boxing is based on (in no particular order), defence, ring generalship, effective agression and clean and hard punches.
''Effective AggressionBeing aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, its not exactly effective. Judgeslook for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring GeneralshipThe fighter whocontrols the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches.
Hard and Clean Punches To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or arent landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean''
The only argument you can make against mayweather is the hard and clean punches, but he stilldominatesopponents on the 3 other criteria. Although I could argue (and still win my argument) that may weather's punches although lacking power are still very clean. Meanwhile his opponent might land 1-2 good shots and more powerful but still gets outworked by the 10-15 clean ''weak'' punches thrown by mayweather.
According to compubox Mayweather's opponent land on average 21% of their punches while he lands 58% of his punches. If this isn't a demonstration of ducking, dodging, elusiveness and counter punching than you are dumb.
The clinch is legal in boxing and there are no rules on a maximum of clinches you can do. Mayweather used it to his advantage, deal with it.
Judging in boxing is based on (in no particular order), defence, ring generalship, effective agression and clean and hard punches.
''Effective AggressionBeing aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, its not exactly effective. Judgeslook for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring GeneralshipThe fighter whocontrols the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches.
Hard and Clean Punches To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or arent landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean''
The only argument you can make against mayweather is the hard and clean punches, but he stilldominatesopponents on the 3 other criteria. Although I could argue (and still win my argument) that may weather's punches although lacking power are still very clean. Meanwhile his opponent might land 1-2 good shots and more powerful but still gets outworked by the 10-15 clean ''weak'' punches thrown by mayweather.
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Originally Posted By DarkOmen⏩
Lol maywether is only good at getting points and picking his fights period....at this he's a genius but his boxing is boring af and just runs around the ring for points then little sheep like you think maywether is a boxing godAgain you just proved that you know nothing about boxing.
According to compubox Mayweather's opponent land on average 21% of their punches while he lands 58% of his punches. If this isn't a demonstration of ducking, dodging, elusiveness and counter punching than you are dumb.
The clinch is legal in boxing and there are no rules on a maximum of clinches you can do. Mayweather used it to his advantage, deal with it.
Judging in boxing is based on (in no particular order), defence, ring generalship, effective agression and clean and hard punches.
''Effective AggressionBeing aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, its not exactly effective. Judgeslook for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring GeneralshipThe fighter whocontrols the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches.
Hard and Clean Punches To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or arent landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean''
The only argument you can make against mayweather is the hard and clean punches, but he stilldominatesopponents on the 3 other criteria. Although I could argue (and still win my argument) that may weather's punches although lacking power are still very clean. Meanwhile his opponent might land 1-2 good shots and more powerful but still gets outworked by the 10-15 clean ''weak'' punches thrown by mayweather.
According to compubox Mayweather's opponent land on average 21% of their punches while he lands 58% of his punches. If this isn't a demonstration of ducking, dodging, elusiveness and counter punching than you are dumb.
The clinch is legal in boxing and there are no rules on a maximum of clinches you can do. Mayweather used it to his advantage, deal with it.
Judging in boxing is based on (in no particular order), defence, ring generalship, effective agression and clean and hard punches.
''Effective AggressionBeing aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, its not exactly effective. Judgeslook for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring GeneralshipThe fighter whocontrols the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches.
Hard and Clean Punches To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or arent landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean''
The only argument you can make against mayweather is the hard and clean punches, but he stilldominatesopponents on the 3 other criteria. Although I could argue (and still win my argument) that may weather's punches although lacking power are still very clean. Meanwhile his opponent might land 1-2 good shots and more powerful but still gets outworked by the 10-15 clean ''weak'' punches thrown by mayweather.
Inb4 but he hasn't lost any fights
49-0 is amazing no doubt but there are also other undefeated boxers and then there are records like Julio Cesar Chavez's 115-107 who chit on gayweather
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