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Originally Posted By 128⏩

Belichick is a retarded GM whose success is owed largely to Brady covering up his poor roster building for all these years, but he's definitely the GOAT football coach - dominating at the highest level > *

Lmfao sure

That success has nothing to do with the Pats' defenses basically shutting people out time and time again. Or typically having the best starting field position. Or tons of YAC. It's always 100% Brady with you nuthuggers, which is laughably wrong and stupid.

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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩

Bill gets my vote. 20 years of consistent success in the NFL with salary caps, constant roster turnovers and playing against top tier talent year round.

Saban has the benefit of getting the top recruits in the country (granted, due to his accomplishments with the program), and in college the talent gap between teams is drastic compared to the NFL.


Both are incredible coaches, but Bill wins due to accomplishing what he has in a professional league where only the best players get to play.

Originally Posted By AlBHappy⏩

This isn't even a contest.

Saban was a failure in the NFL.
Belichick has won 6 SB and been to 9. He also has 2 rings with the Giants. (doesn't know x's and o's), negged.

Everyone hits and misses on the draft. You want to talk about his free agent hits? JC Jackson? Malcolm Butler? He drafted Edelman who was a QB and turned him into a receiver.

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Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩

Recruiting is a whole different ballgame than drafting and free agency. Not every guy is going to be good at both. Both NFL and NCAA have roster turnover, so don't give me that. Coaches have to develop the top recruits too. If it's so easy then why isn't anyone else knocking Saban off more consistently?

IMO the only way to settle this is for Belichick to make the jump and prove he can win in the college game. Otherwise it's 7X NCAA champion vs. 6X NFL champion which might as well be equal, also over the same period of time both head coaching successes started in the early 2000s. Saban's NFL stint was a failure but Bill doesn't have an NCAA stint for comparison.

There's no question that Bill would have an insane amount of success in college, and to compare you absolutely do not need to have Bill go down to college. Saban tried his hand in the NFL and completely embarrassed himself, my dude. The NFL is where the best coaches go.

7 NCAA wins doesn't compare to 6 (HC) SB wins. Bill actually has 8 SB wins as a coach. Not even close. The talent differences in NCAA are HUGE. Saban has the benefit of having the very best HS players flocking to Bama while other programs don't. That's obviously because everyone knows that you win when you go there, which is a testament to his success, but that's not a benefit that Bill has.

Saban tried to replicate his success in the ultimate football league and failed. Bill has had sustained success. That's all that really needs to be said.

Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩

Based on DSRS, the Patriots had a below-average defense ONE TIME under Belichick and it was -.01 (0 is average).

Be careful with this. The hypocrites will call you a "hater" and a "coper" for pointing out simple facts about ateamsport. It really is amazing that people can't admit how good of a defense they've had time and time again. It's all because of the QB that they've won.

02 SB: NE holds STL to 17 points when they scored 31 ppg.
15 SB: NE defense literally saves the game.
19 SB: NE holds LAR to33points when they scored 27 ppg.
20 SB: TB holds KC to 9 points when they scored 29.6 ppg.

It'sallBrady, though.

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