My post is based on neither knowing his personality or his looks. I been on this board a couple months.

Wether its personality or looks, using tinder as an example of anything will prob be based on looks. His personality could be amazing but most these skanks go on tinder for looks. Its a hookup app. They aint looking for husbands.

I dont go to mcdonalds looking for the 48oz prime rib, i suggest men dont go on tinder looking for wifey or anything beyond the initial shallowness that it is.

If hes ugly but has great game, he will fair better in the real world. Fck man u can be handsome as shyt and have zero game and still fck nonstop on tinder. Its what tinder is pretty much for.

So once again, what is there to prove here? Tinders shallow? Wow. Whats the next experiment? That hooters only hires hot chicks 98% of the time?

Look I'm not here to argue with people. I know the success I have online. Pondus must have had some weird luck streak, because as I said in the original post about 99.9% of the time I get no matches on Tinder and when I do its usually a 1-3/10 obese woman. Why Pondus came across 5 girls that gave out their numbers? I have no idea. I think ******** likes influence who you see. So he may have gotten a much more unfiltered selection than myself

But the point of this thread is to see can I get numbers and set up dates with Vicks pictures. That means, according to you guys that my "game" is within acceptable thresholds.

Plenty of ugly dudes in this life have gotten hot women. If your surprised that women are shallow, wether for money, or looks, or celebrity, or anything, then thats peoples own fault for growing up believing the shyt your mother or some female taught you.

Every man needs something to break thru to a woman. Biggie got Faith, Faith fell in love with BIG but it took his rising celebrity to bag her. Seal got heidi klum. Heidi klum made more money and was arguably a much larger celeb. But seal could sing. Heidi klum worshipped that dude during her entire prime years.

Your local schmuck who we view as ugly, yet has a dime who would never leave his side, he did something or had some quality to break the barrier. Even if it was cash. Whatever. Everything with women is bresking the barrier.

And tinder, jesus christ, of all things, the immediate barrier is looks.

Experiment over.

You must be new here. In this section people seem to think if you have two arms, two legs, arent obese, and have a positive outlook cute non fat women should be in your grasp easily. That couldnt be farther from the truth.

You seem like a good dude. Im not sure why your doing this but I hope it serves its purpose on your behalf.

Mate, show me the pictures you have on YOUR tinder profile.

And like mestakyool said, getting matches on tinder is mostly on looks. But also how you present yourself. After all the app shows pictures of other people and you swipe right if you like. Pretty self explanatory so there is not much to test here

I think you need to direct your post towards those who DON'T believe this is the case. You're new here, so you haven't read others that constantly oppose this idea. Rather this be on Tinder or other dating sites, looks play a huge part of it. This isn't just online dating for him though, out in his world (and many others), looks dominate personality big time. Tinder is just an extreme way of showing this to be true.He's literally arguing the same thing in his OP:

It's all that matters IRL as well. Unless you are in that 1 percent of extreme personality/charisma etc...everyone knows one guy who is ugly and gets hot girls, but that's it just one guy, it's out of the norm.

Right and at the same time, if the ugly guy is broke, uneducated and socially awkward, does anyone really think that dude can pull some 10/10 model? I wanna see if someone is gonna to deny this. If they do, they're living in a fantasy world. The ugly guys that are pulling hot women are in the minority and personally I don't see it too often.

ZeHahahaha... INNNNNNNNNN!!

Vick has succeeded. Number obtained with the plan of a lunch date. Granted it would be possible for her to flake if Vick physically lived here, but thats speculation. What we can see is my "text game" is easily above average. I use the same sort of lines IRL and online with an abysmal success rate.

Anyway. I have the next 3 days off work so I'll deliver more as time goes on.

Lmao. This is pure comedy.

That being said, I agree with the dude who said it's a waste of time but if OP has free time and wants to do it, why the fck not.

Also, Pondus lives in the bay area so it's not some anomaly. OP, you'd also do well there, it's a place where it's expected to meet people online vs real life, it's like a weird twilight zone place. When I had tinder/bumble, I'd get 50 matches in a day just randomly swiping while on BART or chilling at a coffee shop. Hot ass women too, it's just what it is in the bay area. Most dudes don't lift so if you do, you're already ahead of 99% of the people there.

The only other place I had that sort of online stupidity was Phoenix AZ and that's because I'm white and could pass for a frat boy who's past his prime since I'm in in my 30's but pass for 27-28 most of the time.

Location is key on all of this, it's been discussed many times. If you lift weights, are decent looking and don't suck at making a profile, you would clean up in the bay area. Fact.

Lol at using Seal as an example. Celebs should never be used as examples.

Please show up for date. Thatd be hilarious. That chick is whatever anyway, who cares. The reaction would be priceless.

I used normal examples as well. But heidi klum at the time was top model in the world and seal was some one hit wonder. And he wasnt shyt for a long time and he locked her down for what? 20 years? Just one of many examples i provided with the underlying fact that in real life certain traits can break the looks barrier. Just have something. And even if you were perfect youll still get denied a lot. Thats life.

I dont know. Just change way of thinking I guess.

Watch boiler room, glen gary glen ross, shyt like that. Whatever gets people to change thier zone of what they think is as opposed to what can be. Everything, including women, are a numbers game.

aww shyt.

Anyway yeah I'd say "race" is the number one problem.

OP be puting that white puss on the pedestal. The two chicks he posted as "proof" of his succcess as Vick are both pretty busted, their only redeeming quality at all would be that their white. that chick pondus got him(that was black) wasn't even worse looking than either of them, she was just black. lol MAYBe a little heavy, but def not obese. now i ain't sayin she necessarily "hot", but neither are these chicks.

ok so from what I see, OP has three options.
a)Find a nonhood black girl(They are not all hood, gtfo with that sterotype sh!t).
b) Find a nonblack girl that fetishes black guys. (tbh i don't recommend as these type of woman arn't great relationship material.)
c) find some nerdy anime chick

most white chicks that come from good families(Aka the type op seems to like) are not interested in having a relationship with a black dude. it's not that they hate black people or any shyt like that, but they don't want having kids that dont even look like them at all and being ostracized by their family. many blacks unfortunately come from fatherless and dysfunctional homes(same problem is happening to whites now actually, but blacks were decades ahead), so the tribal feeling of the family unit isn't something they get, instead clinging to same gender of their race more often than not.

The biggest thing is deep down he knows its not him so he can act how ever he wants.

Set me up a date with that second girl for next week midweek. I'll leave now.

btw otaku make sure you go #nocondoms

And here I am, thinking the girl in the OP is kind of cute.

In the least ****gy way to say this, appearance wise, Vick would be dating downward with both of those chicks though.

Actually, I'll add a suggestion to the bio...I feel it's a bit too long. 1 or 2 poignant sentences with the right pics can & will do wonders.

When I had an online profile a while back, my line was,'PS: if you can't laugh hysterically at 'Trailer Park Boys', you're taking life too seriously '

Based on my location, that line seriously did well. Find that one golden bait line with the right pics and your prospects will look promising sooner rather than later.

I'm still a big proponent of "most likely, I have a better ass than you."

It will get you an ass shot or two.

I usually just put cool quote. Zero information bout myself.

Yep, that's gold. One line and done

She has DTF written all over her face. Too bad Vic is not interested in meaningless sex. Lolzzz.

Average chick, but since she lifts... she would provide some good "sexercise" though.

LOL at you guys calling her average!!!!! Holy cow!

I think she has a pretty face, but it does look myspace angled to hide the nose. I would need to see other face pics. I can't really see her face in her contest pic.

Go in the female bodybuilding section and see who posts there. Especially if she's in the South, most of the women are obese.

Strong standards. Here you could finally find a woman who shares your interests of bodybuilding, and the guys on here call her average. Sigh. I think any woman in that shape is in the top 5% of females.

CommanderH stop projecting and making these fallacious absolute statements. I've said it 100 times, but it doesnt matter. It doesnt matter what I say at all because you people will just respond in whatever way is needed to ensure you come off as winning or looking right. But here it goes. I have absolutely zero racial preference concerning women and having lived in the south my entire life I know what the business is with inter-racial dating.No type of puss is "on a pedestal for me". Vick has matched with 3 black women and I've messaged them all. Waiting on their responses. Not only that but he has matched with better looking black women than I ever did on tinder (average, cute, to outright good looking and not obese). And I do look for non ghetto black girls. My first girlfriend was that type of woman. They arent exactly extremely common for me to encounter. My work force and social circle in this city is almost entirely white. Its not be choice, but once you move up the ladder in the job market black people start vanishing. Being 13% of the population and socieo-economic issues thrown in doesnt help either. Lastly my interests, way of dress, and etc meshes more with white people. If I walked into lets say an all black bar and tried to talk to people (I've done this before) I get weird stares and those black women seem to think I'm almost amusing. Go to black kick backs or house parties with guys I grew up with? Zero interest from black women. A few weeks back I was at a bar and talking to a girl. She was black. Things seemingly were going well and then she goes "why do you try so hard to be white?" I was instantly turned off and told her have a great night. Historically I've gotten the least amount of interest from black women. Unfortunately large social gatherings of non ghetto black girls don't seem to exist around here. I've seen it in Atlanta, Baltimore, Europe, and etc.But understand I am always on the look out. When I had POF I messaged every (yes every) single non ratchet/ghetto/single mom/non obese black girl within 100 miles. Not a single reply was seen that day. Read that again.Not a single reply was seen that day. Another massive road block is apparently many black women assume I won't like them (my ex told me this, her friends told me this, my mother told this, black female co-workers and etc). Thats insecurity on their part, but theres nothing I can do to fix that. My situation isn't from chasing white women.

The black girl Pondus set me up on a date with was.obese. Not "a little chubby". I've seen out her in town somewhere before, but she is a hefty girl.

And lol at all you keyboard warriors. "ew she's busted". The misc is the strangest forum on the internet
brb every girl is ugly and every guy here pulls 10/10s
brb every single male poster on this board is "above average" or "good looking.

But in her picks she just looked thick/curvy. Not my fault she used extreme angles and was frauding. YOu cant deny she had a cute face, though. She was the thickest of all the numbers I got, but she also had to best faceI would 100% plow her. She is well above average. I'm not shallow, though. I actually find "average" attractive.

Dem fraudsWe're....agreeing...