I'm not saying they were decent human beings, I'm saying that calling them out might have made one of them go "You know what dude, it's your resting bitch face" or something else. If anything, it would have made them uncomfortable and that would have been funny as fck, at least for you. Entitled bitchy women are everyone's least favorite, it's good to rustle their jimmies.

Yes, most of the women you ask these questions to are full of ****. Sometimes you get a good response though, it's happened two or three times for me. Most of it is the standard "No, you're awesome, can't wait to see you again" followed by blocked IG, FB, etc but sometimes one of them will say things didn't click for X, Y or Z. Sometimes things don't work out with decent human beings and said human beings can give you a rundown why that happened. It's worth it for 5 seconds of your time.

I didn't prescribe features to you. I asked if you had those features (minus RBF because we've discussed that one before) and I explained how stereotypes (which I'm sure you're aware of more than anyone) hold true.

Next time call a group like that out.

Been on no pron for 5-6 years. Do it. Especially for FA's. Its not good.

How has no pron improved your life? What negative affects was it having? Srs, in2learn

positive effects:

1.I am in control of myself, I don't allow my hormones to dictate my actions. Practicing control over yourself with porn translates to controlling yourself with women ime. I just lol when women try and control me with sex. Im a blackbelt in restraint.

2. Fap way less

3. don't have worry when someone uses your laptop or phone.

4.feel morally superior (semi-srs)

5. Not contributing to giving useless sloots the ability to make more money than an engineer because vagina


Bad:

1.If you're an FA i think its really not good to keep teasing yourself by watching what you can't have. not mentally healthy, linked to depression.

2. can be an addiction

3. wastes time

4.what ever the science says about porn being bad and desensitising, giving ED etc (i didn't really experience these aspects tho)


I found it was more a habit than anything. It never made me feel good, in fact worse.
After about 6 months I completely lost all desire for porn, I feel nothing for it now. If a doctor told me I had to fap to porn everyday to cure cancer it would be a fuking chore.

How do you buy stocks before they go public?

No shade otaku, but tbh they could've reacted like that because they weren't expecting a black guy to say "all the rage". Sucks but it is what it is. I've had girls act like that once I start talking..as in legit just say "Hey, how's it going?" . Stereotypes of piss...it's like the fact that we're the opposite of the standard aye ma wassup is a bad thing. I wasn't there so I can't assume anything but I feel like its the opposite of what Ranger was saying. Some girls actually want you to be that guy. I was gonna share this anyways but it kinda ties in to your experience as well.

Went to the club for the first time in a while last night, didn't even drink so I saw everything for what it was. There was some sloot that knew my friends hanging near us and she kept glancing over at me while she was dancing all slooty etc. She was decent I guess and tbh if I had a few I probably would've entertained it but I just felt above it all last night and I could just sense the desperation. I'm just over getting involved with crazy club sloots. There were a couple of girls from my college there too...one of them lowkey rejected me a few months ago. Later I noticed her dancing then walking to be alone with some dude that legit looked like plies and my mind was full of phuck. She'll probably go on ******** later and complain that there are no good black men out there. I'm not that salty about her specifically but it just makes me sick how girls will turn down a guy for sounding "white" or being nerdy but will easily fck a dude who looks like he sells..

Also as I looked around the club without beer goggles I barely saw any girls that were really that hot. I used to get into arguments when my friends said stuff about there not being any cute girls but I realized they were probably right. Obviously I'd still smash most of them but there weren't any that really stood out or that made me regret not talking to them...starting to have that been there done that feel when it comes to talking to girls in the club.

Sucks man, I know these feels. All you can do is grind and work twice as hard to catch up...you're down but you're not out.I'm trying to start no fap as well but sometimes all it takes is seeing an IG model posting her booty gains and next thing you know I'm on xvideos with 10 tabs open. I used to rationalize it by saying that I had a high sex drive cause I'd still do it when I had a gf around, plus it doesn't feel so bad when you have the real thing too. I've been starting to feel like pervert lately though now that I haven't had sex for a couple months. I'll just fap one more time and start tomorrow...

I unfollow anyone that posts pictures of chicks on IG

All the companies that I worked for were private (bought stocks) before they became public. My brother-in-law had connections so he asked them to buy the stocks for him (of course you have to trust those people).

Too much real life. I don't drink so this has always been what I say too. When the lights come on at the club and the makeup isn't fresh anymore, it's always good for a laugh if you're sober. Chicks are fcking horrendous and the lack of sleep mixed with too much partying/dick really ages them. The good looking women are usually sleeping so they can be productive the next day, not out all night pulling a binge fest. Granted, even the good girls do it on occasion but they're not the repeat customers like you see in the club every weekend.

Source: used to be a bouncer
Lmao. That's right!

Ethereum went from $135.00 a coin to $400.00 today. Jesus christ I did not think that was going to happen. ****.

Super hype for this tho

Saw that trailer, they're finally going back to the true fighting games instead of those garbage RPGs.

I did enjoy the story of Xenoverse, but a competitive fighter? ****kkkkkkk. Its gonna be lit at tournaments.

Weight loss is still going according to plan Gents. Just working. Pulling 60 hours last week because thug life. Not much new going on.

To all my hip hop heads. If you were a fan of Three Six Mafia, Raider Klan, or Space Ghost Purp? Check out these guys. Easily 30% of my playlist right now

This may be random and out of place for this thread....slightly but we are in the RH section.

I was thinking of some of my experiences with gaming white women where I'm at. It's almost always who I will game because I am in an affluent area and my city is pretty white. Guys like iamdetermined, otakurevan, and I have probably lived in this environment most our lives.

Anyway I got a little triggered seeing this girl on Tinder I gamed a month ago at a bar. She seemed interested in me. I got her digits. I recall when we were at this one club she texted me that they moved to another part. So I'm goofing off with her. I find out she's from SF and just recently moved here and stuff. About 25/26 I recall. Later on she said she needs to go to the bathroom and I thought nothing of it but I didn't see her and her crew.

So I texted later and the next day. Nothing.

Something similar happened to me last week with a miscer that just moved to Austin. He's like 23 though lol super young. Anyway I ended up talking to these group of girls. Asian, White, Hispanic. My buddy told me he was into the Asian girl and I was going after the White girl. I liked the Hispanic girl too but she was low energy.

So anyway I was texting the girl I was talking to that night a bit and she ghosted.

So a recurring theme, and I'm sure OP has experienced it, is when gaming white girls as a black man you may get a certain level of interest but you will get the # probably but you will hear nothing thereafter. Now it may be because I was gaming super young girls too, 23 and 25 lol but it seems pretty universally used and it can be frustrating to deal with.

Anyways it can be pretty frustrating but I'm relearning how not to be bitter about things and less outcome dependent. I just wish I could gauge interest better with these women instead of having to guess. It does sometimes stifle me escalating things with them and flirting more. It just sucks ghosting is so commonplace nowadays. If you're not interested I really don't care but just tell me and we're good instead of wasting my time I guess.

But I've ghosted on girls too or didn't follow up so who am I?

White girls do it to white guys too. I thought it was a universal women thing.

Find educated black women that haven't been brainwashed by hip hop/street culture or just go hang out in Germany. A non hood American black dude is a gold mine to those women.
The reality is. If you are black in this country getting women that arent black is a more up hill battle due to social norms. Its 2017, but inter racial dating (specifically with black men) is a HUGE no no for white people and recent asian immigrants. Race matters extremely however white guys don't really notice this due to demographics and racial bias (IE: most women being white and tons of brown women that suck up to white men)

Inb4 a white guy that that has never lived in middle america or the south east tells me that I, FlChamp, Sword, Iamdetermined, and James are all making this up
Inb4 picture of black celebrity

Sure it happens to you guys. Maybe it's more obvious to me now or something given seeing interactions, etc.

Sword lets go back to the motherland

I've met some gorgeous West African women. When I do go after black women it's either them or Caribbean women.

Most black women in the US remind me of a cousin or aunt or something lol it's hard to describe and it's not self hate or anything by any means.

Brah, this sounds exactly like the textbook definition of flake/ghosting that dudes deal with constantly. I don't know if I'd attribute it to skin color. It could be 100%, might be 5%, might be 0%. It's hard to know with modern women because there is a 0.00% chance they'll ever be honest with you about it in the first place. They'll just ghost and use that mental ability they have to pretend you don't exist.

Example: I went out with this single mom about 6 months ago. Boring as all fcking hell woman too but extremely beautiful. Had a decent date, had to carry all the conversation because she was pretty standard, worked an office 8-5, made very average money, looking for a provider for kid (wouldn't admit it though) and then of course I didn't make her panties wet because I wasn't a lawyer at a high end firm or anything like that. I knew right away where it was heading. Anyway, she tells me she had an amazing time, texts me a bunch and says she can't wait to see me again and then ghosted about 2 days later. Never heard from her again. I randomly decided to check her instagram yesterday and I see there's a big quote about how it's never ok to settle for a relationship that is average, etc etc. It's all about the passion and all this other ****. So we have a boring (but attractive) woman who already has baggage (a kid from another guy) in the picture and doesn't have any hobbies (gym, food, netflix) and yet she's ghosting perfectly capable men because they don't make her panties drop. Obviously she wants the the type that are the hit/quit because that's how she has a kid in the first place. But she somehow wants them to stick around because....who the fck knows.

So that's exactly it. A standard 100% ghost job. Had a good time on the date, she was laughing the entire time, gamed it up the best I could and then ghost. We were both white. I would bet you probably would have got farther than I did since you have a good paying job and you're more of the professional type than I am. She probably would have been all about it. Would skin color matter? Maybe.

That's the point though, who knows if it's white/black or if it's just fickle women looking for the next drug fix as in the next dude around the corner who's going to give them that attention they crave. I think addictive personality types are really going overboard with how much attention they can get from men and they aren't slowing down for anyone regardless of who they are.

I get what you're saying and I'm not trying to have a defeatist mentality. I just think it may occur MORE with us and it's more obvious.

But we all have things to work on tbh.

LOL at her Instagram. What nonsense. I do like some MGTOW elements to take some power back in the dating game because all these stories and getting ghosted by randoms is ridiculous I swear.

So much truth. You ever feel like the effort isn't worth it sometimes Ranger? I'm. It saying give up, mind you, but has there ever been a girl you were gonna approach, you suddenly remember experiences you've had like the one above, and you just go "fck it"?

What effort?

All the women I've actually enjoyed dating didn't require much effort. They said what they wanted, I said what I wanted and things happened without it feeling like I was pulling teeth. Women like the story I mentioned are everywhere, they litter online dating sites, they walk around screaming "where have all the good guys gone" while ignoring the 50 good guys all around them. It's nothing new, it's just pronounced in our social media society.

The only effort that isn't worth it and should be the "fck this" attitude is the online dating part. It's 100% not worth it anymore. I actually just went on ********/instagram and looked at about 5-6 profiles of women I've been on dates with in the last year from online sites. Every single one of them is still single. Every single one of them posting selfies. Every single one of them has at least one quote about either settling or one of those fake motivational things that scream insecurity. It's like clockwork and it never fails. I'd actually forgotten about most of them until I thought of it about an hour ago and took a look to see how they were doing. These women are going to be single until their late 30's and then they'll enter damage control mode and settle with some beta in order to have a kid (if they don't have one yet) or have that security of house, retirement, etc and other things they have to think about all of a sudden.

These women are not worth the effort but it's sometimes hard to tell if they're that woman until you go out with them.

I met a rock climbing instructor a couple months ago. She's super chill, easy to talk to, no drama. No effort required in terms of stress when talking to her. She's a normal, good person with a kind heart. Crazy how that works. I think we all just keep meeting these awful creatures and then start to assume that it's normal based on patterns we keep seeing. It's hard to weed through the bull**** but it's that or rot.

Ranger as a non black dude you just don't get it becauseyou don't see it . Example. Pondus claims that I and assume you guys get flaked on so much is because you don't know how to talk to women, you're saying the wrong thing, your reactions were bad, you didnt do x y z [/b].

Now lets say that is true. Lets just pretend it is. All of my white friends in my town do so much better dating. Watching them approach women is an outright train wreck. Yet they keep getting ONS's, dates, and girlfriends. Half the time they beg me to approach with them because they are in pure anxiety mode.[b]Many[/b]white women in places like Texas, North Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, and etc are not trying to just walk around holding a black dudes hand in public. This is why on dating sites you constantly see "no black guys". Its almost never no white, asian, hispanic, or etc. Generally always "no black guys". Every.single.time

The taboo is real and pretty much every black dude in this country that doesnt live in some ultra leftists/progressive type environment knows what the game is. This is why you see the fat white girl often times skinny or fit black guy. Those women have inherently lower status due to being overweight or unattractive. So they dont have value to lose in the eyes of white men, family, and etc because they are already low value.

[QUOTE=otakutrevan post_id=1508659491]Ranger as a non black dude you just don't get it because[b]you don't see it [/b]. Example. Pondus claims that I and assume you guys get flaked on so much is because you don't know how to talk to women, you're saying the wrong thing, your reactions were bad, you didnt do x y z [/b].

Now lets say that is true. Lets just pretend it is. All of my white friends in my town do so much better dating. Watching them approach women is an outright train wreck. Yet they keep getting ONS's, dates, and girlfriends. Half the time they beg me to approach with them because they are in pure anxiety mode.[b]Many[/b]white women in places like Texas, North Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, and etc are not trying to just walk around holding a black dudes hand in public. This is why on dating sites you constantly see "no black guys". Its almost never no white, asian, hispanic, or etc. Generally always "no black guys". Every.single.time

The taboo is real and pretty much every black dude in this country that doesnt live in some ultra leftists/progressive type environment knows what the game is. This is why you see the fat white girl often times skinny or fit black guy. Those women have inherently lower status due to being overweight or unattractive. So they dont have value to lose in the eyes of white men, family, and etc because they are already low value.[/QUOTE]This may seem like a dumb question, but if white women don't want to date you whyn't try black/hispanic/azn women? You don't have to just go for whites y'know?

If I were to go out on a date with a boring ass chick and I had to carry the whole convo, I would never take her out on a second date regardless of how beautiful she was.

Where in the above post did I say that I only chase white women. Please....PLEASE point it out for me *sigh*

I do try all races of women. Hispanic (native, white, or black), East/South Asian, Indian, and Middle Eastern is still a major gamble. I have several friends whose families have literally disowned the women for marrying or having children with black dudes (Arabs, Kurds, and some white/native Hispanics are the worst for this). Trust me. If I see a cute non hood/ratchet black girl? Im gonna talk to her, and see whats up with the interest levels.

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I was simply stating that if whites don't want to be with you due to skin colour, then you'll have to go after somebody of another race. I worded it poorly but that's all I was conveying, I didn't mean to say you only go after white women.

This's interesting to me, now where I live currently I can see that happening (small-town Pennslyvania's not the friendliest place for coloured folks). I'm rather shocked that this's the case with the other minorities, I never was under the impression that they'd act that way towards blacks... Well other than Asians who seem to hate every race besides their own.

Not aware on the likelihood of finding one, given my town of 1,500 has approximately 0 black people and like 2 Asians. But how hard's it to find a college educated black lass? Seems like in the south where you've the historically black colleges, or whatever you'd have an easier time.

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There are black women everywhere in my city. The problem is there is a weird cultural disconnect. Essentially many black women are turned off by professional sounding and acting black men. Even black women they are educated themselves. I blame the fact that hip hop and street culture have somewhat became "black culture". Especially in lower income brackets. And it doesnt help the media is constantly showing thuggish black men as sexually relevant. Several black women have told me that hood/thug/ghetto or as long as black guy has a few of those qualities he is more sexually attractive.My own mother said this

However a bunch of white males that probably didn't grow up in black families or black communities will naturally say that this isn't true, Im making it all up, and how they have a abercrombie and fitch type black bro that slays so therefore my point is null and void from that single anecdote.

Professional put together black dudes are constantly made a joke in music videos, movies, and sitcoms (specifically 90s era)
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