Ugly women can approach if they want but doesn't mean I'm gonna appreciate it and get turned on. I'm sorry but I wouldn't want some unattractive women that I wouldn't give the time of day approaching me and hitting on me out of nowhere. The most I will say is I have a gf and hopefully they leave me alone.

It really depends, alot of guys are looking to get laid, others do want a relationship. It's just since they don't have a big social circle or their social circle sucks, they have no choice but to approach random women just to get a number and possibly a date or ONS or FWB. Either that or use online. The good thing is guys will get immune to getting rejected and it won't bother them anymore, the bad thing is you have to go through alot of rejections just to get something out of it. Cold approaching yields low results unless you're a really good looking guy. I'm would say I'm a 5-6 so if I were cold approaching alot, I will expect alot of rejection. My problem is I don't wanna be in an awkward situation where I run out of things to say (it's happened before) and I just stand there looking retarded so I don't cold approach as much as someone like otaku and other guys do.





Probably one of DLB's white knights or someone else he pissed off.

I see. At least you are polite enough to say that you have a gf to let them down easily. You don't look like a 5-6 in your avi. By your avi, you look good. Are you referring to your facial features? Also, sometimes it is best not to talk then to say something stupid that you might regret. If you run out of things to say, the woman that is interested in you will somehow keep the conversation going. You might be surprised that some women like goofy/quiet guys.

I can show you a picture of me in PM if you want and see how you would rate me. Yeah I'm referring to my facial features, I have a friend that says to be in the moment when talking to a woman and sometimes I am but most of the time I try to build some rapport before going for the number. I will try to go for the number within 1-2 minutes, 5 minutes if it was a long and good conversation. Idk sometimes I'm real smooth and other times I'm not, it depends on the circumstances.

Sure. PM a pic of you. I can give you my opinion but other women might think differently.

Sure. PM a pic of you. I can give you my opinion but other women might think differently.

Check your PM.

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"omg scorpio you're a 9/10. I cannot believe girls are rejecting you. Have you tried moving to Paris or Beijing?"

You are a decent looking dude though.

me or scorpion?

i, i wasnt even being needy with the old chick, she legit was pushing me away to go bang another dude without me knowing (who wants to even talk to the girl you just had a fight with, therefore she could have a disruption free evening)
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"omg scorpio you're a 9/10. I cannot believe girls are rejecting you. Have you tried moving to Paris or Beijing?"

You, I've never seen Scorpion.

same thing happened to me. literally never seen a girl actually look at a PM'd pic from anyone and say "yeah, I can see why you might be having trouble".

I know this is an old post from you but I think you did a great job. Like I said to RauryL, it takes courage to approach/ask someone out. Maybe, just maybe I will do that once I get the courage to get out of my introverted side.

Stopped by to see if this thread is as good as Vick's thread (entertainment value even if I disagree with some of the advice given). And pondus is banned again? He's probably lurking, whatever you did, boo, stop pissing off the same mod. Hopefully it's not too long of a ban.

Now you know how us guys feel lol. I think it's cool if a woman makes the first move, whether direct or indirectly as long as she's attractive...

Ugly women can approach if they want but doesn't mean I'm gonna appreciate it and get turned on. I'm sorry but I wouldn't want some unattractive women that I wouldn't give the time of day approaching me and hitting on me out of nowhere...

Well Thanks! As someone that didn't receive male attention and was a super late bloomer it ain't easy. I just hope I'm not wasting time by having oneitus with this guy.

So I'm still talking to the guy a little bit. We went to a rock show on Saturday. On the ride up he talked the entire time and I looked in his eyes a lot. He hugged me a few times and I was receptive to it. He hinted that he wants a t-shirt for his birthday. It's a month away so I guess that's good? I don't know his shirt size, so I'll have to awkwardly ask his shirt size via text. I'm hoping he has a birthday party and I'll just go in and be a little forward. Maybe saying something on the lines of "want a birthday kiss?" IDK, y'all help a fellow awkward miscer out. Suggestions are welcome.

Obvy most are not going to say that to you when they see you are already down. Only men would be blunt about it, but their opinion doesn't really matter as they hopefully ain't milking you. I gave you an honest opinion and I think majority of men are fukin ugly in my area for all its worth lol.

I will say it again, both you and otaku should not be struggling as you are both average or above based on pics i've seen of you's. Given you are average, yes it will take more work compared to what Chad has to put in, but such is life so just learn to accept it, work with what you got and be content.You guys also have high standards as you require fit women which significantly narrows your dating pool. If anybody wants a Greek God, its the hot gym bunnies. I've seen alot of mismatched couples, but I've never seen a gym bunny with a butch dude(not that I'm implying you guys are butch). Non fat and decent looking is okay too. Interesting fact, the last few women I have dated have all taken on a healthy lifestyle after getting involved with me because my "rabbit food" and gym regimen/dedication intimidates the chit out of them.

I really don't like how you come off not good enough for this guy IN YOUR HEAD. Are you still driving to him every time/catering to him? He smells like a Chad! A woman in 2017 should not have to put this much effort in hun! PM me a pic, you come off hard on yourself.

Have you guys been intimate yet? This would be a good time to get his shirt size without asking.

No don't pull the birthday kiss line, just do it. He hasn't tried to kiss you yet?? I take back Chad comment as Chad is usually not scared lol.

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"omg scorpio you're a 9/10. I cannot believe girls are rejecting you. Have you tried moving to Paris or Beijing?"

You are a decent looking dude though.

me or scorpion?

You, I've never seen Scorpion.

I never said I have? I was trying to figure out who you were talking about.

I always feel I'm not good enough. I don't know why, I guess it was cause guys were never chasing after me. No I didn't drive him to the show. We rode uber to the show. Funny thing is he sat right next to me like legs touching (yeah I'm a geek). He's no Chad at all. He's told me numerous times that he's really shy and introverted, while drunk. No we haven't been intimate. The thing is I'm looking for a boyfriend and not FWB, that's why I haven't slept with him quick.
I think 1 time he tried to kiss me, but he went for the hug and touched my neck. F*ck I'm so bad at this stuff. So a week before should I ask his shirt size?

How many dates/times have you guys seen each other already? I am a little puzzled as to why you guys haven't even kissed yet? I understand you want a relationship but a kiss is ok you know lol. How old are you?

He sounds like a bish though given he hasn't made a move to try and kiss you. Thus, you should start teasing him on how he is scared to kiss you, srs lol. When i've had dates I didn't kiss on first or first or rare second date, I will always tease them on how they "ran away from me before I could kiss them and how they are scared". I say it in a very joking tone so there is no pressure and I find that it ALWAYS happens on the following date and eases any tensions she may have.

You gotta put out on his bday hun, fo sho

bahahaha.

same thing happened to me. literally never seen a girl actually look at a PM'd pic from anyone and say "yeah, I can see why you might be having trouble".

I'll tell you why, its because they are thinking "well, I can see girls may like him, even though he is not really my type, I mean, girls have different preferences right?". As long as you are not horribly disgured, women will be thinking that. and they wwant the best for you, so they will come back with "nah you are a good looking guy, don't worry".

Here is the translation bruhs:
"You are a decent looking guy, I'm suprised you are having trouble" = Even though you are in shape and dress well, I'm not really attracted to you, at all, but you aren't horribly disfigured so I can see how some girls out there may like you. you are nothing special. average.
"Well, how about changing this? or this? You are a good looking dood, just need to fix some things to bring that out!" = You are ugly as phuck
"OMG you are HOT, what the hell, you are legit HAWT as PHUCK, seriously? for realy?" = you are actually good looking.

PM me a pic of you. I definitely have no problem telling you that you are ugly. lol..

He's the same age as me, 27. Well we have mutual friends so we hangout in groups and 1x1. At least 4 times we hung out together. IDK man it's hard. I get really nervous that I'm going to f*ck up around him. As you can tell I'm attracted to him. I should start teasing a little. LOL I have given 1 guy b-day sex and it didn't turn out so well. I haven't kissed nor banged in year, I feel so confused sometimes. Ughhh.

How is this confusing for you...

4 times and no kiss, ayyyyyy. Given he has not kissed YOU, I assure you that he is a nervous wreck himself so don't sweat it. There is nothing to mess up, surely it ain't your first kiss. 100% tease him about kissing through text (which gives him the green light and kicks him into gear really) and HE will kiss YOU on the next date, trust in. Make it easy for him though and give him "those eyes", especially at the end of the date and be affectionate during the date by touching and caressing him, holding his elbow area/hand as you walk, etc (fukin cringe that I am advising a woman to do a mans job btw lol). So next time you guys make plans say something like "you are going to kiss me this time right, or are you still a scardy cat lmao". Pending what he says and if received well, bust on him more and say awwww....you shy, how you don't bite, use minty toothpaste, etc lmao.

You should also consider having some drinks with this guy the next time so it can ease your and his tensions. Report back!

If I could send you the text screenshots I would

Quit trying to get my number, I have a gf