No those guys were creepy, too, and would say to go straight to their hotel room. No female in her right mind would do that. Everyone knows that you meet online men in public places for safety reasons.

It just made for interesting stories to see who you "matched" with, and then I'd look up to see which football team was in town to play. I would verify the guy was legit though over FaceTime.

I did match with a Warrior and I'm pretty sure his pics were fake. There were a lot of guys using photos of zyzz and Lazar too. I probably was the only female aware of them, lol.

LOL I chuckled hard at this and the previous post

Lol...I don't even....

is there a link to a website or thread that gives you a step by step fool proof way of achieving this if you work hard enough? Approaching 500-1,000 women is not my thing.

Instead of portugese for dummies it could be dating for dummies.


I have been on Tinder for maybe 2-3 years. I have like 8-9 matches I think.

Tinder reminds me of real life, if a girl doesn't like you then you cease to exist, they dgaf about you at all if you don't pass the looks barrier. One is just as shallow as the other.

Otaku still blows my mind though, a guy that should be getting girls isn't. You have looks, good job, personality and game. Something is off.

Well Legend I don't think I'm too attractive dude. Its just from peoples reactions and experience that pretty much confirm this. The type of women you pull are a direct reflection your over all attractiveness. Male miscers just don't seem to think any man is ugly.The only thing that is wrong is a combination of a culture/personality clash with alot of black women, race relations with non black women, and the fact Im just not that good looking. Tinder/POF and etc is all about looks. Bars/Clubs are all about looks. Relationships in general are all about looks. Thats why Vick (and the rest of your naturals) gets matches/dates/positive interest out the ass and I get left overs that have been in the alley for a week. I went out last night and tried to talk to a few black girls. They all just immediately exited the conversations.

Lol at hannibal saying all men can get 8/10 women if they arent deformed. Population numbers wouldn't even allow that to happen. That would basically be 70% of men dating 30% of women. But theres no reasoning with you people. You want to think your success is from your "hard work" and thats fine. Correlation doesn't imply causation, but alas you people don't care.

In short. Looks like I probably have 4-7 more sealed dates set up and I'll get the number, post, and end this. Not going to lie is fairly depressing. I can pretty much swipe right and have insta matches with Vicks photos and girls seem excited to hang out. Fairly certain I could have half ass'd the conversations. Vick I'll delete the ******** profile and Tinder account soon.

If I wasn't hot I'd get no play. I'm not dumb enough to think anything that comes out of my mouth or anything I buy at a store can change that.

Keep it up for as long as you want, I don't give a fuuck. Maybe I'll hop back on Tinder.

I used Tinder in 2014 with some success. I tried it again in 2016 and it was a complete waste of time.

You are minority in the sea of this madness. All these other idiots that are above average looking thinking its their 3-4 days in the gym, a hair cut, shirt, pants ,and "game" that bring them in the women and if you simply do it to you'll be aight.


Yeah if I was you Id worship the person that created Tinder.

Can we get a recap of the girls you've matched/text convos?I think it was you that said it best - "everyone wants to **** hot people, but hot people only want to **** hot people"

Thats really how it is.

Otaku

Yes Vic is a good lookin gweed, we all can agree. But question for you...the pics that you use; do they convey the same "feeling" that the ones of Vic would? And by that I mean, Vic looks endearing, and has a genuine laugh/smile going on in one or some of the pics (I can't remember exactly how many)...Women eat that stuff up man. A genuine no holds barred smile on the verge of laughter is ATTRACTIVE to women. When women see fun/happiness it piques their interest and they want to be a part of that positive feeling and whoever/whatever is causing it.

I'm not trying to paint you into a box but I feel by how you post here that you're just so "down" that that kind of facial expression would be hard to coerce out of you, let alone get a photograph of!
I bet you if you had some good pics where you're laughing your balls off and genuinely HAPPY women would eat it up (ok I know you'll say you would never get eaten up because you think you're ugly yadayada but you would catch their attention)..Genuine, organic, belly laughter is one of the best attraction tools available to a man IMO

One of the guys I used to coach hockey with was an ugly motherphucker (great guy who would tell thats what he is btw)...chunky, scruffy and just dgaf about how he looked but he was super funny and charismatic (huge plus)...his wife was a smokeshow!!!!! and she was wrapped around his finger. We would often joke about how when out and about with a bunch of guys just laugh as hard as you can to the point where everyone in the place is looking and instantly you got women all over ya. This is something I already knew, but god is it ever true. We would do it all the time on purpose just to get the planned reactions we knew we'd get. Sometimes I will go out with all my boys (who remind alot of you with your eternal I'm in a slump attitude) and I'll be the biggest goof/clown until everyone in the place is staring, then slowly but surely I wave over groups of women, my buddies all start chatting, and I slowly slip away to the bar, start sippin on some scotch while admiring the watering hole of women I just created for my boys, with the Denzel Washington ALA Training Day smile ...

Didn't mean to write a novel, but trus me man, if you, James and Vic come out for real this year to TO, or somewhere else, can guarantee you'll get some good belly chuckles in, I promise I'll snap some pics of you too while doing so, so people can see what a smiley motherphucker you're capable of being

I'm all out of positivity for the day now!

I can guarantee an excellent time if we get a Toronto meet-up going. I am 100% going so there is two of us. And we will have a fuucking ball.

The photos I used were good. Girls irl helped me pic them and over lord Pondus said they were ok. Even filtered them to make them look a bit better. Dude you can smile and have fun all day long...that doesnt mean women are going to like you or accept your advances.I smile a lot .I've been told by both men and women I have a nice smile.My profile pic was me smiling/laughing. Idk what to tell youPlot Twist: When I go out with the squad I'm the fun person that actually talks to people and women specifically. Then the girls always gravitate towards the Vicks of my social group that arent doing anything. It happens every.single.time.Alright? LOL you act like I just dont smile, go out, have friends, or am capable of emotion lmao. I appreciate your attempt to I guess make me feel better, but its nothing Im not doing or havent heard before.

I also know many overweight to obese men that somehow locked down skinny to decent looking women in marriages. Most of them prior never had success so they seemingly just lucked out. A friend of mine doesnt shower, has zero confidence, and is extremely awkward married a hot girl and she is all about him. Its the strangest thing I've ever seen, but just because he managed to make that happened has no bearing on what I can do.
Its gone be lit

Otaku, you aren't as attractive as Vick - therefore you don't get the same response on an extremely shallow dating app. That's life son.

All we can do is play our hand as best we can. You aren't bad looking imo. Plenty of guys a lot worse off.

I agree with the cards. I have all my limbs, fairly healthy, above average income, and I was born in one of the best countries on the planet minus all the stupid. All of that I'm glad for.

I understand how physicality can influence rejection. I have been brutally rejected in the bar/club scene becuase of my height. Explicitly becuase of it. Years later I recognized that scene was just bad for me. If I had been 6' it would have been good most likely.

Playing your cards doesnt just mean improving appearance, but getting into the right environments that maximize probability of success.

Aware. Maybe a massive college town would help, or exploiting the thirst some foreign women seem to have fore Ameri'bros. However I've spoofed my GPS to college towns in my state and the game didnt change. Seattle for whatever yielded results apprently, but thats one state a ton of people have told me to move to. I think many can tell I socially/culturally just don't mesh with the south east.

However I think the best thing I can do is try to somehow appreciate the non attractive girls that show interest. Rather not end up like deadliftbrah. In her what? 30s or 40s and she is like addicted to young in shape dudes that are just going to play her. She knows thats going to happen, but she can't stop. and honestly I'm similiar in a way. I already know if I try to talk to a girl I visually view as attractive (which miscers call average and busted. lol chad standards) it wont go anywhere.

Well, you have to understand that this forum is a honeypot for narcissists. I also recognize myself as having narcisstic tendencies and needing to address them for my own well being.

Vick has admitted to being selfish in a relationship.
James admitted the same thing.
Daisy has openly stated her preference for good looking men.
Deadliftbrah has confronted her narcisstic tendencies and is trying to address them.
I used to spend 18 hours a week in the gym to perfect my physique, I wouldn't give 90% of women a chance due to dismissal of looks.

So yes, a lot of narcisstic tendencies compared to the average person and my friends irl. I've seen much worse on regular misc though and I genuinely like most of the posters here.

A lot of my friends are in solid relationships with stable women, who I wouldn't have given a chance due to their average looks. And there I am, dating good looking, unstable women.

I wouldn't call myself a narcissist. I've done it before, but I could send you a few pictures of girls that I've tried to talk to and you'd be mind blown that they shut me down or flaked. My standards are extremely reasonable (well at least I thought they were). However if not wanting obese women, 40 something year old white women, and just heavily busted women somehow makes me a narcissist? then I guess thats what I am.

Thank you for recognizing the change!!!

Yes, I stopped getting fake nails in October, sold the Mercedes, I work out 3 times a week instead of 6-7 times a week. No men for 3 months.

I realize that hedonism/narcissism/materialism was the evil in my life and it created horrible addictive behavior. Was I happy living like that? HELL NO! Yes there were highs when I attracted an extremely hot guy, but when he went NC on me the depression was horrific. It was like getting candy and then it would get ripped away from your hand.

Then I would compare myself to 20 year old girls and get even more depressed as to how I could compete with them, and then diet and overexercise and harm my health. Buying a Mercedes didn't help, again it was a high in the beginning and then depression. Feeling trapped by materialism was horrid as then you have mounting bills to pay for all of this stuff that is really meaningless.

I have a much better relationship with my daughter now.

Other people aren't so supportive. Going to a women's only Bible study with daily homework rustles jimmies of A LOT of people! I said isn't it better to do this than the horrible stuff I did before???? People don't get it.

Yes I looked better physically 2 years ago. But I was a mess.

STABLE WOMEN:

I have noticed that most of the guys from my high school are married to more average looking women. I myself have passed up many nice guys who weren't attractive enough for me, to the point where I would only speak to the top 1% of men over 40 because I was so used to looking at 25 year old faces. Of course those top 1% were huge narcissists, unstable and players as well!
Way too much drama for any type of stable relationship. One sent a text after I turned him down, "don't call me when you want cawk or pussy"???? OK that is literally insane right there for a 41 year old man to text that.

Now sometimes I see those men out and about and they jump from girlfriend to girlfriend, it's quite sad to do that in your 40s.

You're not a narcissist dude. That word is thrown around far too much by people who don't know what they're talking about. Genuine narcissists don't give a phuk about anybody but themselves - that has nothing to do with having standards or whatever - you can be super picky and still care about people's feelings and act right about it.

What would happen if an attractive 40-year old cougar came on to you that took care of herself? Would you give her a chance? Me personally my interest in older women has gone down since I've stopped watching porn last year but if some hot older women came on to me, I'll pound that dusty pussy not gonna lie.

Just lol if you think any personality trait is black/white and not on a spectrum.

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I would, but thats never happened. Its always chunky old white women. Every single time.

didn't say that it wasn't. but your implication seems to be that anyone who doesn't want to date average or below-average looking people they don't find attractive is automatically a narcissist. I disagree with that assertion.

And if there's anything the Misc Tinder thread series has taught us, it's that game matters a lot on Tinder.





not srs

"Good lookin" is always subject to debate -- I can see the redpilled autists at l00kism tearing Vick's looks apart for his "negative canthal tilt". Nevertheless, he's certainly perceived as moredesirableas a mate as far as looks go than otaku, in otaku's geographic region at least. But I doubt that has very much to do with how much each is smiling in their pics, and has more to do with racial bias/selection, among other things. Anyone who denies the impact of the latter is either lying to themselves or is unaware of how large the social/attraction penalty is for ethnics in dating markets in certain areas of the US/Anglosphere

A lot of white people are legitimately unaware of dating and how race factors in. A lot of people I work with moved to this area for the job and they are legitimately mind blown. Especially white guys with non white wives. They tell me about the looks and stares they get. However for white brahs that stick to white women (the majority of women) they don't really notice. Its literally outside of their world view for their race to matter in dating. Or for a white girl to say things like "you don't act white" or "did you go to black schools or something?

lol the nonsense is real.

LOL - Do you remember Idonteventlift? Good looking dude with great game who dominated in the Tinder thread a couple of years ago. He had both looks and game.

To be fair, he saidnarcissistic tendencies, which is a lot different from NPD, where someone is completely lacking in empathy. It's a rare disorder, afflicting a miniscule percentage of the population...majority of people may exhibit a few traits but be nowhere close to NDP.

As far as having a preference for attractive people, that's a given, not only amongst the general population, but also for a subgroup like the posters here. The standards are likely higher due to the nature of this site, but that's relative. The bottom line is 9/10 humans have a preference for attractive people; what's deemed 'attractive' amongst those 9 individuals is subjective.