hmm ok fair enough brother...I was basing all that on ASSumptions, because I'm just going by what I feel you'd be like

don't be taking it personally, just trying to help a brah...bottom line women are fukd, so its all good gangsta

regardless...you come up to the great white north, I'll guarantee it'll be funsies!

yal are sad

i have negative canthal tilt? brb alone forever.

Interesting.

I live in the nations capital, Ottawa which is a 3 - 4 hour drive to Toronto and have family (brother & cousins) in Toronto, so... I may join you all. Also got a brand new shiny passport last week, so I may also visit Otaku down there in the South to see how it is in person. I love to travel anyway.

Join us man, we will iron out a date here soon and get the ball rolling.

True, those who visit a bodybuilding site are more likely to have narcissistic tendencies than the general population.

It's part of the sport. You look in the mirror often to see your "gains" or "leanness". When I was lifting 6x a week and doing cardio 3x a week I took nonstop photos. Now I can't remember the last time I took a "selfie".

I know someone IRL with full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

- inflated sense of their own importance
- a deep need for admiration
- a lack of empathy for others

VERY difficult to handle. Gosh that list reminds me of a certain someone not on this forum, hmmmmmm....................Many bodybuilders like chunky women because they tend to be big, and don't want someone super thin.

Many on this forum have expressed that as well, so you probably have higher standards than they do.

Why would a dude who's in shape want someone who is fat? Sounds like you're either lying or exaggerating what a minority are doing.

I'd genuinely rather a normal women that's a little overweight than a bodybuilding chick with a 6-pack.

1. I know how may psychological issues run deep in competitive bodybuilding, and I don't want to deal with an eating disorder (I've dated a girl with one).
2. I'd rather a woman that complements me, not one that has all the same interests.

@BlackScorpio I didn't say fat, I said thicker/chubbier.

I've heard this as well, that they don't want a woman with a 6-pack/fitness model.

Look at the Chubby/Thicker girls thread on the main Misc.

Those guys want a bigger woman because they are big themselves, but not obese.

I remember one guy IRL and said he didn't want his woman to feel all muscular and shredded like he was. He preferred thicker/chubby women.

Then there are other bb guys who do date women who are bodybuilders/bikini competitors.

I've seen both scenarios IRL.

Net/net: what I'm saying is oktau seems more restrictive in his selection of females than guys I've lifted with IRL.

"otaku: lower your standards and fuuck future whales."

nobody here has NPD and anyone advising OP to simply "change his preferences" is not too bright.

Who said that quoted phrase?

Anyway. Numbers/Matches. Dont feel like posting the entire conversations.

more vick stuff




Then for ****s and giggles I opened up Bumble, swiped for an entire episode of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia yesterday (had to let it regenerate matches 2-3 times) and I managed to get one match. She no contacted randomly mid way during the conversation.





Conclusion: My text game is just dandy, but my face is the problem

Confirmation bias is a funny thing but you've been doing it for years so no point in stopping now I guess.

1) Stop the RBF (I have it too and try to not have it for pictures when possible)

2) Move locations (this is the actual problem as you know and it has nothing to do with your face)


But keep up with the confirmation bias!

Is this real lyfe

First chick looks good
Milk chocolate chick doesn't look too good imo. Probably because it's rare for me to be attracted to women around my skin color or darker (I like light-skinned women) It's her loss, not really a big deal when a woman like THAT doesn't reply back. Inb4 pondus still says it's your text game that scared her off.

Holy shiit, legitimately moving to Georgia.

I have mentioned the RBF (and so you have you) to Trevan for years.

My reaction after reading this whole thread was holy fukking chit not because of the Tinder convos but because I just fuking realized that there was a T in between otaku and revan in OP's username. I always thought it was otakurevan srs I never saw the T! Holy fuking chit!

nobody said that like tre, it's just what I read whenever I see someone tell you to alter your standards.

this is just the way things are brahs, sorry to say.

didnt know I could pull cute black girls though, it's like a whole new world. disney channel movie shiit boys.

OP. Can you confirm that you have posted your real profile in different populated cities throughout the country and have gotten the same results in all of the cities?

By "ride" I assume you told her you own a motorcycle.

I can confirm. Motorcycles are pantie droppers.

What is the point of this thread? Dead srs.
Everyone knows looks matter, esp online. Otaku you esp know this, are you just trying to prove to people?

Anyone who has ran male models pics knows this to be true, this isn't some ground breaking exploration.

Pretty sure that was innuendo for him to come ride her like she rides her horse. You saw the "Full time equestrian" right? That chick is probably a ****ing machine gun in bed.

He gets off on making himself even more miserable and angry, instead of looking for ways to adapt.

This.

Poor dudes on the misc. If they spend 1/2 the time trying to improve themselves as they do posting chit threads like this, then maybe they would get laid.

Thing is, he has already gotten laid and has a lot going for him financially and physically. I think what just has him annoyed is that even with all that, he can't seem to find a woman he actually connects with on a level past a fling as of recent. However as we have all said before, we are fairly convinced it is the area he lives in, so unless he plans on moving or bringing a woman back to the US with him, he will probably be having more and more difficulties moving forward.

Lollzzz...don't project on us. If you saw past yourself you would see that most guys here are the opposites of narcs and just want ANYONE to end their aloneness/loserness.

He better not have an excuse to not move.

The reason I made this thread was because there is a sizeable amount of rhmiscers that seem to think that my looks in no shape or form have any bearing on my success in dating irl or online and its purely my "lack of game". My "game" is easily above average. I've always been witty, and charismatic in social situations. These miscers think that with a haircut, going to the gym, and being normal you'll be swimming quality women, but that isnt the case at all

To all the people saying "move". For the 100th and 1st time I do plan on moving eventually. Location may explain why many white girls are like "no bueno" on dating a black dude,but that doesnt explain my negative amounts of success with black women. I get blown off quicker by black women than I do white women IRL and online. I doubt north of the mason dixson line that what black women want in black men magically change.

To the people that have asked I did spoof my GPS to New York City, and I did pretty poorly there on Tinder. I mass swiped for about 2-3 days and it was obese girl city. Washington State and Virginia however seemed to work and there were decent girls in those regions that did match. However even then I still didn't get the success that Vick had.

That said I do plan on moving anyway. If anything for a change of scenery.

Lastly Nedo shut the fuk up. I don't get off on making myself feel bad. This was just to shut up all the "man youre game is probably bad" or "you arent ugly you're great looking" people that completely ignore my own experience.

great thread, cant believe people are still saying this when you did an actual experiment