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Prove to me that a creator doesn't exist, that there isn't a supreme and all-mighty..
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Prove to me that a creator doesn't exist, that there isn't a supreme and all-mighty..
....entity out there.
You really think this world just came to be so perfectly out of nothing?????
You really think this world just came to be so perfectly out of nothing?????
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Originally Posted By iRelentless⏩
You really believe an all mighty being just came to be so perfectly out of nothing????....entity out there.
You really think this world just came to be so perfectly out of nothing?????
You really think this world just came to be so perfectly out of nothing?????
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05-25-2016, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By MISCDASIT⏩
and just lmao at this passive aggressive pussy. call op out but then says he might be right. take a stance or shut upYou really believe an all mighty being just came to be so perfectly out of nothing????
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Well before the beginning of our universe any and every law/rule that governs our universe would not exist.
For example, space and time outside of this universe would not make any sense. Neither would a concept of there being something/someone before it.
So the universe couldn't have come from some where else because that would imply that there is space and time before the Big Bang.
For example, space and time outside of this universe would not make any sense. Neither would a concept of there being something/someone before it.
So the universe couldn't have come from some where else because that would imply that there is space and time before the Big Bang.
05-25-2016, 04:14 PM
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10^20 (more I think) and most it it just balls of gases or rocks. Says everything is perfect "Just LMAO."
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Burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
brb you owe me a million dollars and a blow job, prove to me you don't.
brb you owe me a million dollars and a blow job, prove to me you don't.
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Look in the mirror. Who or what would create such an ugly rotter?
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it's impossible to disprove something like that. that's the reason burden of proof is on you.
Also, just because I cannot disprove that there is a god, does not prove that there is one.
Also, just because I cannot disprove that there is a god, does not prove that there is one.
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
I called out his idiotic method of making his point. Agnostic is a stance you ****ing incel. It's admitting that I don't know and cannot prove one way or the other if a being which would be divine by human description exists or not.and just lmao at this passive aggressive pussy. call op out but then says he might be right. take a stance or shut up
If you're an atheist you're as well based as a theist, which means you're illogical.
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Originally Posted By iRelentless⏩
How do you know it's some "entity"....entity out there.
You really think this world just came to be so perfectly out of nothing?????
You really think this world just came to be so perfectly out of nothing?????
maybe the system runs so deep and is so complex that our brains will never understand it.
You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told you're a god or a total bastard. The iron always kicks you the real deal. It's the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. I have found it to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But 200 pounds is always 200 pounds.
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Originally Posted By MISCDASIT⏩
That's your issue, science proves that there was a beginning to this world, but for the all mighty being he didn't come of out nothing, he always was.You really believe an all mighty being just came to be so perfectly out of nothing????
Agnostic crew.
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Our humans minds are limited, you can't deny that, even in terms of dimensions and things we can see, just like that, our minds are limited by time, we can't comprehend something always being there.
But that is what God is, he always was, he didn't just poof into existence, he always was and will be, he is the only absolute in the universe.
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Originally Posted By cmc0108⏩
But there are signs all around us that there isit's impossible to disprove something like that. that's the reason burden of proof is on you.
Also, just because I cannot disprove that there is a god, does not prove that there is one.
Also, just because I cannot disprove that there is a god, does not prove that there is one.
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It isn't possible to PROVE that there is a creator. Just as it is impossible to prove that there ISN'T a creator. This is a fallacy.
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your so called creator could have been some alien like in promethius who decided to take a pit stop and dropped a turd in the ocean
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Originally Posted By IcePikachu⏩
It's not perfect how our bodies co-exist perfectly with the sun and moon and with the way the earth rotates?10^20 (more I think) and most it it just balls of gases or rocks. Says everything is perfect "Just LMAO."
How we need about 8-10 hours of sleep, and the night is just around that long and how the day is just long enough for us to provide for ourselves. How perfectly the earth rotates and how perfectly far away it is from the sun to keep our temperature stable enough for our survival.
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Let me ask you all this. How did man learn to do the things we need to do to survive? How did we learn names of things. How to communicate, talk, etc....
Language.....
If you left an infant in the wild on their own, wouldn't they die???
SO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE FIRST HUMANS CAME TO LEARN EVERYTHING.
It's quite obvious God taught man, and instilled us with instinct.
Language.....
If you left an infant in the wild on their own, wouldn't they die???
SO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE FIRST HUMANS CAME TO LEARN EVERYTHING.
It's quite obvious God taught man, and instilled us with instinct.
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It's just ridiculius to think we are here with no purpose and just happened to pop up with our minds and everything....
We had a creator, you don't have to say God, just say the creator of the universe, and he delivered his message through the roots of religion.... which began with prophets without scriptures and led to Judaism, which was corrupted, then Christianity, which was corrupted, then Islam, which has been the same book for 1400 years unchanged and has a perfect message and way of life if followed right
We had a creator, you don't have to say God, just say the creator of the universe, and he delivered his message through the roots of religion.... which began with prophets without scriptures and led to Judaism, which was corrupted, then Christianity, which was corrupted, then Islam, which has been the same book for 1400 years unchanged and has a perfect message and way of life if followed right
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Originally Posted By iRelentless⏩
So you want to utilize science to debunk my statement, which is equivalent to yours. You'll take the scientific theories which assume the worlds beginning but toss away the integral parts of those same theories in regard to the method in which the earth was formed? Do I understand correctly?That's your issue, science proves that there was a beginning to this world, but for the all mighty being he didn't come of out nothing, he always was.
Our humans minds are limited, you can't deny that, even in terms of dimensions and things we can see, just like that, our minds are limited by time, we can't comprehend something always being there.
But that is what God is, he always was, he didn't just poof into existence, he always was and will be, he is the only absolute in the universe.
Our humans minds are limited, you can't deny that, even in terms of dimensions and things we can see, just like that, our minds are limited by time, we can't comprehend something always being there.
But that is what God is, he always was, he didn't just poof into existence, he always was and will be, he is the only absolute in the universe.
That same science you claim proves the worlds beginning also has a time frame, one that does not line up with religious writings in any of the largest religions in the world. It does more to debunk classic theist arguments than anything.
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Originally Posted By MISCDASIT⏩
What you said makes no sense.So you want to utilize science to debunk my statement, which is equivalent to yours. You'll take the scientific theories which assume the worlds beginning but toss away the integral parts of those same theories in regard to the method in which the earth was formed? Do I understand correctly?
That same science you claim proves the worlds beginning also has a time frame, one that does not line up with religious writings in any of the largest religions in the world. It does more to debunk classic theist arguments than anything.
That same science you claim proves the worlds beginning also has a time frame, one that does not line up with religious writings in any of the largest religions in the world. It does more to debunk classic theist arguments than anything.
with Islam, it does line up with science... [Quran 51.47] And the heaven, We built it with craftsmanship and We are still expanding.
Science shows that the universe is ever expanding.
Not to mention how science shows the earth will be destroyed when the sun finally explodes or whatever and becomes a white dwarf... The Quran says that plenty of times of how the universe has a set time and will end, and how the sun and earth will all combine and be destroyed. That is indeed true.
There is nothing in the Quran that is contradictory with science...http://www.islamreligion.com/categor...of-holy-quran/
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OP, prove to me that an alien civilization did not create an algorithimic program to simulate life, set it programmed to Earth, and we are all just a part of this simulation
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