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post 1440799591 05-07-2016, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted By SlootFlute
Who says what u "deserve"
Supply and demand decide what a job deserves. If a job is valuable to a company and not many people can do it, those people who can get paid a lot. If a job is relatively unimportant and anyone can do it you make minimum wage.

Flipping burgers shouldn't be a life sustaining career, it should be a part time job for 16 year olds. There is so much turn over in those type of jobs that if you stay long enough and show any ambition you can move up to manager-type positions and make more money. People need to be less complacent and stop thinking that they deserve more than they are worth.
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Originally Posted By OmegaMaleBrah
Minimum wage goes up, minimum wage earners suddenly have more disposable income, demand for various goods goes up, prices go up as a result, minimum wage workers aren't really any better off

And everyone who earns more than minimum wage and didn't get an epic raise is now worse off
except the minimum wage workers are better off, the middle class is marginally affected and the only real loss comes from higher up.

also inafter 35k/year misc republicans. just lmao. never cease to amaze.
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post 1440799651 05-07-2016, 05:56 PM
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to say all fast food workers are undeserving of more money is very ignorant, however I can guarantee that the ones who actually deserve to be paid better are not the ones protesting.
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If they don't like it they should quit.
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In on Bernie thread.... wait wut?

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I hope it does happen. I can't wait to see what people like the OP will say once all these people are out of work now because they were replaced by machines.

Not to mention, all the small business owners who are going to get hurt.
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Love all the socialists/Marxists who appoint themselves as the person who determines what someone else should do with THEIR money
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I don't have a dog in the fight, but 99% of people keep ignoring this simple fact to destroy any argument... Prices have been going up EVERY year on most common products. The USA failed to account for inflation in wage increases which would be about a 10.50 minimum wage modern day. You're ALREADY paying more for everything but not getting paid more. Disband from your idiotic political parties and delusional views on economics from your little college courses and listen to the truth that I just stated. It all makes sense now.
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Originally Posted By ihavetomakeit
I don't have a dog in the fight, but 99% of people keep ignoring this simple fact to destroy any argument... Prices have been going up EVERY year on most common products. The USA failed to account for inflation in wage increases which would be about a 10.50 minimum wage modern day. You're ALREADY paying more for everything but not getting paid more. Disband from your idiotic political parties and delusional views on economics from your little college courses and listen to the truth that I just stated. It all makes sense now.
So then it should be 10.50, not 15.
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Originally Posted By Miscuided
They put in the work to get their degree, that achieves the deserving
I have a masters degree in geophysics and I completely disagree with you. Anyone who works should be paid enough money to support their family, $15 an hour is not unreasonable.
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I'm actually not entirely opposed to remedying wealth inequality. Having said that LOL at you.

They dont pay me for the 7/8 hours a day I spend miscing and shopping. They pay me for what I can do in the remaining 1 hour. Think about that for a second.
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc
I'm actually not entirely opposed to remedying wealth inequality. Having said that LOL at you.

They dont pay me for the 7/8 hours a day I spend miscing and shopping. They pay me for what I can do in the remaining 1 hour. Think about that for a second.
which is?

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post 1440801801 05-07-2016, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By mCheech
So then it should be 10.50, not 15.
15 is an arbitrary number. You always negotiate higher to find a middle ground.
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Originally Posted By Alphacapwn
I have a masters degree in geophysics and I completely disagree with you. Anyone who works should be paid enough money to support their family, $15 an hour is not unreasonable.
Are these people making reasonable and responsible decisions? You know.. buying things they can't afford, having children they can't afford etc... Just because monica wants 4 kids and a family doesn't mean it's a good decision. People shouldn't have to pay for things these people "want".
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Originally Posted By Armord
which is?

inb4 bullsht
Electrical engineer. What do you do other than pose like a dofus for some fake af avi on on BB subforum you silly little *******?

Edit: damn your avi is ridiculous as fk kid... what is your deal? Some weird stormtrooper hat with a cig? Get your head out your ass man.

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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc
Electrical engineer. What do you do other than pose like a dofus for some fake af avi on on BB subforum you silly little *******?
apparently i rustle jimmies lmao
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post 1440802521 05-07-2016, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By OmegaMaleBrah
Minimum wage goes up, minimum wage earners suddenly have more disposable income,demand for various goods goes up, prices go up as a result, minimum wage workers aren't really any better off

And everyone who earns more than minimum wage and didn't get an epic raise is now worse off
100% false
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Originally Posted By ihavetomakeit
I don't have a dog in the fight, but 99% of people keep ignoring this simple fact to destroy any argument... Prices have been going up EVERY year on most common products. The USA failed to account for inflation in wage increases which would be about a 10.50 minimum wage modern day. You're ALREADY paying more for everything but not getting paid more. Disband from your idiotic political parties and delusional views on economics from your little college courses and listen to the truth that I just stated. It all makes sense now.
year min wage adjusted 2013 dollars
1938 $0.25 $4.14
1939 $0.30 $5.04
1940 $0.30 $5.00
1941 $0.30 $4.77
1942 $0.30 $4.30
1943 $0.30 $4.05
1944 $0.30 $3.98
1945 $0.40 $5.19
1946 $0.40 $4.79
1947 $0.40 $4.19
1948 $0.40 $3.88
1949 $0.40 $3.93
1950 $0.75 $7.27
1951 $0.75 $6.74
1952 $0.75 $6.61
1953 $0.75 $6.56
1954 $0.75 $6.51
1955 $0.75 $6.54
1956 $1.00 $8.59
1957 $1.00 $8.31
1958 $1.00 $8.08
1959 $1.00 $8.03
1960 $1.00 $7.89
1961 $1.15 $8.98
1962 $1.15 $8.89
1963 $1.25 $9.54
1964 $1.25 $9.42
1965 $1.25 $9.27
1966 $1.25 $9.01
1967 $1.40 $9.79
1968 $1.60 $10.74
1969 $1.60 $10.18
1970 $1.60 $9.63
1971 $1.60 $9.23
1972 $1.60 $8.94
1973 $1.60 $8.42
1974 $2.00 $9.47
1975 $2.10 $9.12
1976 $2.30 $9.44
1977 $2.30 $8.86
1978 $2.65 $9.49
1979 $2.90 $9.33
1980 $3.10 $8.79
1981 $3.35 $8.61
1982 $3.35 $8.11
1983 $3.35 $7.86
1984 $3.35 $7.53
1985 $3.35 $7.27
1986 $3.35 $7.14
1987 $3.35 $6.89
1988 $3.35 $6.61
1989 $3.35 $6.31
1990 $3.80 $6.79
1991 $4.25 $7.29
1992 $4.25 $7.07
1993 $4.25 $6.87
1994 $4.25 $6.70
1995 $4.25 $6.51
1996 $4.75 $7.07
1997 $5.15 $7.49
1998 $5.15 $7.38
1999 $5.15 $7.22
2000 $5.15 $6.98
2001 $5.15 $6.79
2002 $5.15 $6.69
2003 $5.15 $6.54
2004 $5.15 $6.37
2005 $5.15 $6.16
2006 $5.15 $5.97
2007 $5.85 $6.59
2008 $6.55 $7.10
2009 $7.25 $7.89
2010 $7.25 $7.77
2011 $7.25 $7.53
2012 $7.25 $7.37
2013 $7.25 $7.25
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If you've been working at mcdonalds for 10 years and you haven't moved into an upper management position you deserve what you get.
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Originally Posted By colbski
Are these people making reasonable and responsible decisions? You know.. buying things they can't afford, having children they can't afford etc... Just because monica wants 4 kids and a family doesn't mean it's a good decision. People shouldn't have to pay for things these people "want".
Your just ignorantly generalizing a group of people..

Every fast food worker isn't on welfare and spending their ebt on shoes..

What about the kids who work to help out their family because their parent fell ill and can't work?

What about the girl whose been dealt a bad hand in life and walks to work, just so she can keep the lights on??
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There shouldn't be a minimum wage, period.
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Originally Posted By Alphacapwn
I have a masters degree in geophysics and I completely disagree with you. Anyone who works should be paid enough money to support their family, $15 an hour is not unreasonable.
then they shouldn't have had kids in the first place
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Originally Posted By Armord
apparently i rustle jimmies lmao
Lol subtle rep beg is subtle. It's allright bishboi, lay your head to rest. It'll be allright.
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the system is the system.. i dont believe a degree in anything should get you a better job.. you can graduate with a CE Or CS degree and the kid writing code in his basement is better at it than you and deserves more money..

school is part of THEIR system so you can get THEIR jobs and become THEIR slaves..

pay the guy sweating over the grill 15 an hr.. putting money in the hands of someone likely to spend it as opposed to someone who will hoard it is always the right economic decision..

taking dollars out of the system is what perpetuates poverty
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Originally Posted By SlootFlute
Your just ignorantly generalizing a group of people..

Every fast food worker isn't on welfare and spending their ebt on shoes..

What about the kids who work to help out their family because their parent fell ill and can't work?

What about the girl whose been dealt a bad hand in life and walks to work, just so she can keep the lights on??
What about her? She has a job in McDonalds? Which is great for a young person to learn the value of work.
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Originally Posted By likeawashboard
What about her? She has a job in McDonalds? Which is great for a young person to learn the value of work.
He was trying to generalize every fast food worker as being some lazy minority with 4 kids
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Originally Posted By ezjax
the system is the system.. i dont believe a degree in anything should get you a better job.. you can graduate with a CE Or CS degree and the kid writing code in his basement is better at it than you and deserves more money..

school is part of THEIR system so you can get THEIR jobs and become THEIR slaves..

pay the guy sweating over the grill 15 an hr.. putting money in the hands of someone likely to spend it as opposed to someone who will hoard it is always the right economic decision..

taking dollars out of the system is what perpetuates poverty
Which is why the current education system is absolute BS. I say this as a person with an eng degree (you kids call it STEM now?). Most people are incompetent af and make terrible engineers after university. Others that I've met throughout my career (tradesmen, project managers, inspection, safety officials, other technical staff, etc.) who DONT have an engineering degree have actually been MORE knowledgeable than the people who wasted 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars getting a degree.

It's a shame, really.
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Originally Posted By SlootFlute
Your just ignorantly generalizing a group of people..

Every fast food worker isn't on welfare and spending their ebt on shoes..

What about the kids who work to help out their family because their parent fell ill and can't work?

What about the girl whose been dealt a bad hand in life and walks to work, just so she can keep the lights on??
The fact of the matter is this..... people need to be accountable for themselves and their given hand. If McDonald's isn't adequate to help ill parents, keep the lights on etc... then they need to do more. Understand there is restraint with the younger crowds but more often than not, you find people well beyond their teenage years working at fast food restaurants.

Why settle for less? Why accept what was given to you and just say "that's life". It's a defeatist realm of thinking.
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Originally Posted By SlootFlute
He was trying to generalize every fast food worker as being some lazy minority with 4 kids
Oh sorry, took it out of context.
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Honestly the minimum wage should be $0.00. Nobody is forced to take a job if they think the pay is too low.
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