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post 1441118841 05-09-2016, 01:36 PM
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Greg Plitt natty... don't need anything else.
post 1441119151 05-09-2016, 01:38 PM
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i'm in denial about everything for the rest of my life. get me and come
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post 1441119731 05-09-2016, 01:41 PM
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Nah, my goal physique is just to be skinny with abs again, and then go from there and build up my arms/shoulders. No delusions that anybody labeled "fitness model" is natty and/or achievable.
Nope
post 1441119771 05-09-2016, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Neybor⏩
None of these physiques are natty and they've been training for years so wtf makes you think this is "achievable" natty?
Zane was a work of art mane, I think most of his usage was to get stage ready lean rather than put on size

I don't thinkhis physique is achievable for anyone, whether it be natty or not. World class genetics are not given to everyone.

But I do think someone could achieve a similar physique natty. At 5'9 I don't think a single digit BF% in the 180's in unattainable. Will that person look like Zane at that weight, hell no, but could they be comparable, sure.
Originally Posted By martoch⏩
100% natty?? You trolling or what?
Similar physique, srs.

Maybe I'm crazy though, das my personal goal.

I think if you're 185lbs, at 8% BF, 5'9, you will look comparable to Zane

Given your proportions are similar
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post 1441119811 05-09-2016, 01:42 PM
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For me it's been different, I've always had the goal to be bigger with no specific end goal in mind. I've always known professional bodybuilders and fitness models go the non natty route and I've never directly compared myself to them and been upset by the difference in size/mass they can achieve.

Instead I've been pleasantly surprised with just how much muscle I've been able to add onto my frame year after year, I won't ever have a goal physique because all I need is some constant improvement and I'll keep at it, naturally.
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I remember reading Flex magazine back in the day. They had a section where readers would send in their transformation pics. I remember thinking how unbelievably chitty they all looked compared to the pros featured in the articles or even the smaller models in the ads. It slowly sunk in that that was the life of a natty
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
For me it's been different, I've always had the goal to be bigger with no specific end goal in mind. I've always known professional bodybuilders and fitness models go the non natty route and I've never directly compared myself to them and been upset by the difference in size/mass they can achieve.

Instead I've been pleasantly surprised with just how much muscle I've been able to add onto my frame year after year, I won't ever have a goal physique because all I need is some constant improvement and I'll keep at it, naturally.
post 1441121741 05-09-2016, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By zebraman12⏩
Greg Plitt natty... don't need anything else.
He was only 195 at 6ft. Natty achievable.
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Originally Posted By jacobcmurphy⏩
Zane was a work of art mane, I think most of his usage was to get stage ready lean rather than put on size

I don't thinkhis physique is achievable for anyone, whether it be natty or not. World class genetics are not given to everyone.

But I do think someone could achieve a similar physique natty. At 5'9 I don't think a single digit BF% in the 180's in unattainable. Will that person look like Zane at that weight, hell no, but could they be comparable, sure.



Similar physique, srs.

Maybe I'm crazy though, das my personal goal.

I think if you're 185lbs, at 8% BF, 5'9, you will look comparable to Zane

Given your proportions are similar



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Single digit bodyfat

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post 1441123401 05-09-2016, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By E90335i⏩
He was only 195 at 6ft. Natty achievable.
Can confirm; knew him. I'm 192 6-6'1 natty.
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Originally Posted By PatheticPeter⏩
5'9" 180

Single digit bodyfat

Natty

Pick 2
You really don't know what you're talking about man

I can hit single digit BF% in the low/mid 170's and I have only been training for five years.

Give me another five years and I guarantee I can sit in the 180's at a single digit BF%

This chit takes a long time, any physique that is admirable usually took over a decade of consistency to achieve
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Originally Posted By E90335i⏩
He was only 195 at 6ft. Natty achievable.


Here is a pic of me and him. I'm natty. Yes, I was probably like 12% BF here and he's leaner but his physique near the end of his career is achievable natty. He was bigger at one point though and not sure if his bigger version is achievable.
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post 1441124981 05-09-2016, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Deezenutz⏩
Delusional*
I can't spell that word and refuse to learn how to 
Originally Posted By Roasted⏩


Here is a pic of me and him. I'm natty. Yes, I was probably like 12% BF here and he's leaner but his physique near the end of his career is achievable natty. He was bigger at one point though and not sure if his bigger version is achievable.
so based on you (who may not even be natty lol) out angling him in a shirt we are to assume that Greg fuking plitts physique can be achieved natty LOL

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post 1441125731 05-09-2016, 02:13 PM
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Denial phase was about 6-7 years for me. Thought that 'eating clean' enough, 'training hard' enough, and using a full line-up of natty supplements would eventually get me any physique (aside from IFBB pro calibre). Natty delusions that after enough time, patience and sacrifice I'd get there. lol.

Joking aside, it's a tough pill to swallow. Seeing guys 3-5+ years younger start going to the gym looking like sticks, and then a year later they cruise on orange juice and [pretty much] overnight get that dried, permapump, 3D delt look. Suddenly they're strutting around like they know everything about lifting and dieting as well. All because of dat der Tropicana.

I've just accepted that I will do the best I can do for the time being. If I want to take the next step physique-wise I know what I have to do. Just not worth it right now for me.
post 1441126391 05-09-2016, 02:16 PM
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The misc is beyond delusional when it comes to fake natty goals. Tons of people here believe Gzus is natty ffs.

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post 1441127051 05-09-2016, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By jacobcmurphy⏩
Goal physique was and always will be




Think a similar physique could be achieved natty

Given we understand nutrition and supplementation a lot better today
lol
Originally Posted By Roasted⏩
Back when I was young and stupid and probably 2-3 years into lifting (so about 15 years ago) those Animal ads with Frank MacGrath looking juicy as fawk were all the rage. I was like "damn, I want to look like that!....GOAL PHYSIQUE!". I later realized that to get that huge you need to be cycling and cycling hard.....for years. It was a gradual realization though, not overnight.

For reference:


Yes, I'm embarrassed to say I was THAT unaware when young.
Originally Posted By Tune5k⏩
its funny u mention that because i was just thinking about those ads...clever marketing especially with all the animal paks people were using as their vitamins. i used to love coming across them in the magazines, very appealing..."The long road ahead" and sht like that with a guy in a hoody sitting with a black and white background....those ads were cool as fuk. but even then i knew those guy had to use skittles but still i was turned onto the product based on the appeal of the ads

edit: i wasn't far off but here is the one that came to mind where it says "the road ahead"

Lol, yeah I used to eat that shiet up as well. I remember all those Animal ads and even bought a hat and a shirt from Universal. Also wasted money on their multivitamin packs when they were all the rage. I wasn't quite delusional enough to think Frank MacGrath wasn't sipping OJ, but I still thought I could look mostly like him but maybe a bit smaller. Stage 3 natty delusions.

In fact, those ads were responsible for me being a bit of a hermit for a few (3-4) years. Thought that I had to 'sacrifice' to get a physique like that so I would often 'sacrifice' eating out with people, going out, etc. Cringe thinking about it...
Originally Posted By glossin⏩
This is my goal physique (no homo). Is it achievable natty?

lol
post 1441127491 05-09-2016, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By m1n2v5⏩
The misc is beyond delusional when it comes to fake natty goals. Tons of people here believe Gzus is natty ffs.

B-but elite genetics! Y-years of t-training!
Gotta keep in mind there's a lot of really young guys and newcomers; I agree that they're delusional, but you can't really blame them. Part of understanding what is achievable naturally is actually getting some real life years of lifting experience under your belt. I remember thinking Layne Norton was natural for the longest time. He was a big inspiration for me and I genuinely believed everything he said. What a joke.
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Originally Posted By Neybor⏩
None of these physiques are natty and they've been training for years so wtf makes you think this is "achievable" natty?
#2 and 3 are defeintely achieveable natty, i hope ure trolling man. If a person cannot achieve #3 without assistance no one would lift natty at all.
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I don't know how high your expectations are,but yeah,if you get strong workouts in [meaning] leaving ALL electronic devices home,getting rest/recovery days,& eat decent,you can build a decent body-thing is,everybody wants it NOW,don't wanna do the hard work it takes.I just hit 4 years bodybuilding ,just kept at it,and am doing good.
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Some of you are delusional. Frank Zane bro is delusional. Those stating Greg plitt have to talk about what time period and I think it's easy to see why. The dude who posted the skinny dude, showing off his abs that someone said isn't achievable. That physique is achievable but only for a brief period of sane time and with a pump. No pump and you won't look likE that

when I found out, I was hardcore in denial. Because when I was 8% looking in the mirror I still looked jacked, or so I thought. Until I saw a picture of myself with my shirt on. You couldn't even tell I lifted. And that's when it hit hard.

But then misc saved the day and someone made a thread about how our standards are higher and to 'normal' people we still look big because they don't know anything about lifting. And they weren't kidding.

BUt yeah, I was annoyed for a bit.
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Originally Posted By m1n2v5⏩
The misc is beyond delusional when it comes to fake natty goals. Tons of people here believe Gzus is natty ffs.

B-but elite genetics! Y-years of t-training!
lol, agree






"Ubereem has elite genetics and is a beast bro. Great muscle bellies and insertions bro. Plus he's a pro athlete bro trains his ass off everyday bro."










Where'd his elite genetics and 'muscle bellies' go?






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My goal physique was Zyzz and I knew right away he wasn't natty. Didn't really bother me. My goals were always more focused on how I felt I could realistically look with my own genetic base.

Even now, my goal physique isn't anything that would be mired on Misc. I'm just trying to find that point where I have the most mass I can carry, at 10% body fat, while being easy enough to maintain.
Originally Posted By m1n2v5⏩
The misc is beyond delusional when it comes to fake natty goals. Tons of people here believe Gzus is natty ffs.

B-but elite genetics! Y-years of t-training!
THE ROCK IS NATTY

TRAINING FOR DECADES

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IT'S THEIR JOB SO THEY CAN JUST TRAIN ALL DAY

Brb implying that progress is linear and there's no such thing as plateaus
Brb implying that more time spent training results in more muscle gainz and that recovery time doesn't matter
Brb implying that nutritionists and personal trainers make that much of a difference especially in an already experienced lifter

I feel like a lot of people are also deluded because they think that being realistic is the same as being defeatist, but it's not. You can still work hard without being absolutely retarded.
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goal physique, just need to lose about 10% bf

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Originally Posted By Zwicker⏩
lol, agree






"Ubereem has elite genetics and is a beast bro. Great muscle bellies and insertions bro. Plus he's a pro athlete bro trains his ass off everyday bro."










Where'd his elite genetics and 'muscle bellies' go?






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Originally Posted By Neybor⏩
I can't spell that word and refuse to learn how to 



so based on you (who may not even be natty lol) out angling him in a shirt we are to assume that Greg fuking plitts physique can be achieved natty LOL

gr8 b8 m8
Originally Posted By m1n2v5⏩
The misc is beyond delusional when it comes to fake natty goals. Tons of people here believe Gzus is natty ffs.

B-but elite genetics! Y-years of t-training!
Originally Posted By beastmodemike⏩
Gotta keep in mind there's a lot of really young guys and newcomers; I agree that they're delusional, but you can't really blame them. Part of understanding what is achievable naturally is actually getting some real life years of lifting experience under your belt. I remember thinking Layne Norton was natural for the longest time. He was a big inspiration for me and I genuinely believed everything he said. What a joke.
I hope you guys are trolling. Look at the few pics out there of Layne and Plitt that aren't professional photo's with perfect angles, lighting, and even some photoshop, ALL WITH A PUMP. Their physiques are top tier but once you understand what they look like every day, walking around, outside the gym, you'd see how all those illusions go out the window and their look is very very realistic for a natty.

IMO its guys like you who are fooled by photography and angles/video editing that are delusional because with enough trickery you can make some 5'10 160lb kid whos been lifting for 1-2 years look like a non natty. Sad there's people who still don't understand this.


There's too many idiots floating around who have made their 30lbs of gains over a few years and think "yup all this hard work and dedication puts me right at the natural limit, anything bigger/leaner than me is obviously non-natty"
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Originally Posted By Neybor⏩
I can't spell that word and refuse to learn how to 



so based on you (who may not even be natty lol) out angling him in a shirt we are to assume that Greg fuking plitts physique can be achieved natty LOL

gr8 b8 m8
I'm saying that I believe his physique is achievable natty because I know for a FACT that his size is achievable natty as I have achieved it and know with 100% certainty that I am natty. You don't know that for sure but I do. Whether you believe I am natty is up to you, makes no difference to me. As for his combination of size, leanness, + aestetics being achievable? I'm still not sure, I have achieved similar leanness to him but haven't maintained it for long periods like he has and I don't have his aesthetics, so my picture was only to demonstrate his size being achievable.
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
I hope you guys are trolling. Look at the few pics out there of Layne and Plitt that aren't professional photo's with perfect angles, lighting, and even some photoshop, ALL WITH A PUMP. Their physiques are top tier but once you understand what they look like every day, walking around, outside the gym, you'd see how all those illusions go out the window and their look is very very realistic for a natty.

IMO its guys like you who are fooled by photography and angles/video editing that are delusional because with enough trickery you can make some 5'10 160lb kid whos been lifting for 1-2 years look like a non natty. Sad there's people who still don't understand this.
You are the GOAT fake natty troll, srs

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Originally Posted By AyMayne⏩
My goal physique was Zyzz and I knew right away he wasn't natty. Didn't really bother me. My goals were always more focused on how I felt I could realistically look with my own genetic base.

Even now, my goal physique isn't anything that would be mired on Misc. I'm just trying to find that point where I have the most mass I can carry, at 10% body fat, while being easy enough to maintain.



THE ROCK IS NATTY

TRAINING FOR DECADES

DA BEST NUTRITIONISTS AND PERSONAL TRAINERS

IT'S THEIR JOB SO THEY CAN JUST TRAIN ALL DAY

Brb implying that progress is linear and there's no such thing as plateaus
Brb implying that more time spent training results in more muscle gainz and that recovery time doesn't matter
Brb implying that nutritionists and personal trainers make that much of a difference especially in an already experienced lifter

I feel like a lot of people are also deluded because they think that being realistic is the same as being defeatist, but it's not. You can still work hard without being absolutely retarded.
Yeah, the list is long.

"He's in the gym all day bro"
"He trains fukin hard bro. Like really fukin hard"
"He's always looked like that bro even in high school bro"
"He eats like 500 grams of protein every day bro. Real clean diet bro"
"He probably has his own personal chef and trainer bro"

Also, agree with your last point. I don't say all this because I've given up. Far from it. I train as hard/harder than ever. Been at it since I was 16 as well and been recording calories for nearly 7 years. Still love the lifestyle, I just have more clarity as for what's attainable and I've got no time whatsoever for liars and con artists.
Originally Posted By Nosferatu187⏩
Yeah, that video never gets old.

The Iron Liar.

Looks like he even believes himself in that video since he's so used to lying.
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