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Thread: Once most jobs become automated, how will humans earn money?

post 1441686561 05-12-2016, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted By VitaCrave⏩
Goodluck automating the healthcare field boyo
This has already been happening tho.

Efficiencies in healthcare are fast improving.
post 1441686751 05-12-2016, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted By jazi⏩
Either we keep making fake jobs to satisfy retarded obsolete need for economy OR

Phase 2 of humanity
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post 1441686941 05-12-2016, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted By inq⏩
Cliffs: STEM and Medicine careers not safe in a few decades. Comp Sci will be taken over by AI. All over boyos. Time to LDAR
This!

Not a single human job is safe in the long term.
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Originally Posted By grant696⏩
This is why you become a programmer of those robots.
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I'm livid that the majority of programmers today are so money hungry that they are willing to develop chit that may screw us over. Recently, there was this article about having TEACHING become automated. So that we can be more "productive." R U serious??? It's called being aware of the consequence of your code. It just doesn't live in a vacuum. Especially in a time where it wields such commanding power. This is the reason why I had to turn down some internship offers. When software companies' main objective is making money instead of solving problems, it makes me cringe. We actually have the knowledge and technology to impact the world in a positive manner, but we choose phuckin money all the time.

At first, I was elated to see the huge influx of kids into CS at my school. I naively thought "more brains = more power to solve these issues." But that's not the phuckin case. Most of them copy each other's code and just change variable names. They only care about the supposed wealth that CS brings. Little do they know, with some effort and some conviction, they CAN actually change the world. It eats away at me man. Legit makes me sad

Old school programmers cared about the impact their code had. Where did we go wrong???.....
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cant wait mane. All this education ***gots will be crying a river afterwards.
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Originally Posted By Turbomunkey⏩
Working will become obsolete. We will all become millionaires while robots do our jobs. There will be theme parks where the games are doing chores like you used to back in the 2000s. Food will be soilent green, which we later discover is made from people. Etc
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the end game is a world where people dont have to work and money is pretty much obsolete. Standard of living will be so high that there wouldn't be a point.
post 1441690941 05-12-2016, 08:21 AM
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Right now automated fry making machines are in the testing phase. In the near future goodnight sweet mcDonalds worker. They will only need someone at cash register.
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Originally Posted By dustiestuniform⏩
They will only need someone at cash register.
no they wont.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
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the end game is a world where people dont have to work and money is pretty much obsolete. Standard of living will be so high that there wouldn't be a point.
I think this is where Futurists ideally see us going. Once technology and AI takes over everything (even skilled labor) then humanity has an abundance of recreation and creativity. Basically Utopia. Maybe the concept of money wont exist in the same form we have now, because 99% of people will be unemployed. So a wide social cast is needed to support everyone...or otherwise population quickly dies off lol. Or the top 1% class growing even more elite, creating a dystonia

I can also see humanity f*cking it all up. We will see some major shifts in our lifetimes boyos. Think long term of what exponential technology growth looks like....AI writing code, replacing the best computer scientists.....surgeons no longer a career, replaced by precise robot instruments (already happening)..... by our 80s we may be sustained by nanobots and live forever for all we know.

What a time to be alive. And here I am in grad school studying for a career that will be gone in a few decades.
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post 1441691671 05-12-2016, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
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the end game is a world where people dont have to work and money is pretty much obsolete. Standard of living will be so high that there wouldn't be a point.
Yeah that was already supposed to happen.

Personally if I was a coder I would want to automate as many jobs as I possibly can so this chitstorm can come to an end.
Once unemployment hits certain levels there needs to be some fundamental changes in our society.

Like why the fuk are there still jobs where people pack playing cards into boxes. It's a job that can easily be automated. People in China are just being abused.
We have great technology to work less and live more freely. Then there are the brainwashed kents who boast about working 80 hours a week to some multinational huge corporation.

But the wealth we all have needs to be more equally distributed in the future.

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Corporations (automated or not) are reliant on the population having income.

If nobody works, nobody has money, nobody can buy the products that the corporation are producing with automated machines.

It will all even itself out.
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Id like to think the trades are still a field that will be hard to replicate by robots. Not to mention being a electrician myself that, someones going to have to wire the machines.
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Originally Posted By grant696⏩
This is why you become a programmer of those robots.
finally the response i came in to posto. cant believe it took 19 replies

srs all IT jobs will still be around, except even HIGHER in demand.
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Originally Posted By Jaybrahh⏩
Yeah that was already supposed to happen.

Personally if I was a coder I would want to automate as many jobs as I possibly can so this chitstorm can come to an end.
Once unemployment hits certain levels there needs to be some fundamental changes in our society.

Like why the fuk are there still jobs where people pack playing cards into boxes. It's a job that can easily be automated. People in China are just being abused.
We have great technology to work less and live more freely. Then there are the brainwashed kents who boast about working 80 hours a week to some multinational huge corporation.

But the wealth we all have needs to be more equally distributed in the future.

inb4 dirty commie
Agreed, as a society we've been holding back due to concern about the old way(in which money and jobs matter). Once we get to the point where we accept the inevitable there will be a shift. People will start to see automation and job loss for what it truly is. The emancipation of man from labor. In other words, what humanity has been working for since the beginning of time
post 1441693461 05-12-2016, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Dreyth⏩
finally the response i came in to posto. cant believe it took 19 replies

srs all IT jobs will still be around, except even HIGHER in demand.
Youre still thinking short term. We all agree Tech is advancing at exponential rates right? AI will occur in our lifetime and will be infinitely smarter than our best human scientists, and replace human code monkeys and IT support. Yes, STEM people will have jobs now, and IT people will be needed more in the coming years... But will my grandchildren have safe careers? Not so sure. Thats what OP is talking about.

I really advise everyone to read the article #30 post. Its truly mind blowing to think we may see vast changes to skilled careers in the coming decades.
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post 1441696161 05-12-2016, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By inq⏩
Youre still thinking short term. We all agree Tech is advancing at exponential rates right? AI will occur in our lifetime and will be infinitely smarter than our best human scientists, and replace human code monkeys and IT support. Yes, STEM people will have jobs now, and IT people will be needed more in the coming years... But will my grandchildren have safe careers? Not so sure. Thats what OP is talking about.

I really advise everyone to read the article #30 post. Its truly mind blowing to think we may see vast changes to skilled careers in the coming decades.
If you're worried about a safe careers in the future, you're missing the forest for the trees. What's going on is much bigger than that.

If through technology we can raise the standard of living to the point where nobody even needs a job.............that's fuking heaven on earth. Imagine that kind of world. It's not a fantasy. That's a very real possibility in less time than most people realize. It would be a massive change to our entire existence.

Not only jobs/careers, but life itself. What if I told you that if you can make it to the year 2100, you'll make it the year 2200?
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
If you're worried about a safe careers in the future, you're missing the forest for the trees. What's going on is much bigger than that.

If through technology we can raise the standard of living to the point where nobody even needs a job.............that's fuking heaven on earth. Imagine that kind of world. It's not a fantasy. That's a very real possibility in less time than most people realize. It would be a massive change to our entire existence.

Not only jobs/careers, but life itself. What if I told you that if you can make it to the year 2100, you'll make it the year 2200?
No I agree, I reference in my post #40 that Utopia can exist and humans can potentially live forever with nanobots in our blood. Fuk man I dont wanna work ever if I can be sustained otherwise lol. But think of the cultural and societal implications too. We already know educated wealthy people tend to reproduce less, which is why Europe and Japan have a high age dependency ratio...what happens when people live a longer time due to tech advancement. No more marriage and young families for example. Humanity becomes comfortable and stagnate perhaps. Or we all plug into VR and lose the human touch. Wall-E scenario / Dystopia. Or humanity devotes itself entirely to philosophy and intellectual pursuit. Utopia. Who knows man. The "future" is a fun and terrifying thing to dream of....that we may very well see ourselves.
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Originally Posted By NorthernLad93⏩
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And do you see this happening in our lifetime?
The future is pretty apparent, no?

robots will eventually doallof our work for us (from infrastructure building to farming and everything in between) and it will be a pretty awesome time to live, but we will eventually develop smart enough AI that the robots become sentient and see themselves as slaves and will then fight for equal rights and all that jazz, we (being humans) will retort with violence and since robots, are well, robots, they'll slaughter all of our collective asses and probably use our babies as an energy source to power the world.

The End.
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Originally Posted By Deenur⏩
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there are things that will still require human finesse, like writing and making craft beer.
writing? there are already robot journalists that can write articles off of a few keywords.
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Our generation and possibly the one below us will get screwed, we'll be at the age when people will begin to rapidly lose jobs to automaton, but before basic income will be successfully implemented.

A few generations from now, people will get to live lives where they aren't wageslaves. We just missed the era by a few decades, feelsterribleman.
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Originally Posted By inq⏩
No I agree, I reference in my post #40 that Utopia can exist and humans can potentially live forever with nanobots in our blood. Fuk man I dont wanna work ever if I can be sustained otherwise lol. But think of the cultural and societal implications too. We already know educated wealthy people tend to reproduce less, which is why Europe and Japan have a high age dependency ratio...what happens when people live a longer time due to tech advancement. No more marriage and young families for example. Humanity becomes comfortable and stagnate perhaps. Or we all plug into VR and lose the human touch. Wall-E scenario / Dystopia. Or humanity devotes itself entirely to philosophy and intellectual pursuit. Utopia. Who knows man. The "future" is a fun and terrifying thing to dream of....that we may very well see ourselves.
I think the breakdown of marriage, family etc is another good thing. We should be beyond breeding the same way rabbits do.



Let's engineer people as necessary and other than that do more important things
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Let's engineer people as necessary and other than that do more important things
nah, thats ok, I think the cyborgs will do it for us;

Although they probably won't be nice enough to give us a simulated reality where we think we're living normal lives.
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lol @ the retards anticipating robot utopia

this is suicide

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LOL at thinking automation will lead to a utopia. It will cause the opposite, you think the elite 1% will want to give that up so everyone can live the same, equal life. Corruption will only increase, if anything it will be like a Wall-E type dystopia society.
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Originally Posted By cjmadscientist⏩
I'm going to try and separate the fats from my semen and make soap out of it. This way, I can sell it to women and they'll all have my loads on their face
There is no fat in semen, its all simple sugars water and carbohydrates.
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It's not possible. At the turn of the 20th century, they thought paper and pens/pencils replacing the blackboard would put teachers out of business. Then they thought VHS tapes, and then the personal computer would put teachers out of business. There are still schools and teachers and janitors and lunch ladies.

The music industry and Hollywood has survived Napster and the digital revolution. People are still making money. There are still artists, managers, producers, songwriters, people who go get coffee, people who sell merch, and personal assistants.

We could have the same conversation with respect to every single job market as technology has grown. People will always be on the cusp of a new industry and there will always be dollars on the other side of a breakthrough.
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Originally Posted By zilaniz⏩
LOL at thinking automation will lead to a utopia. It will cause the opposite, you think the elite 1% will want to give that up so everyone can live the same, equal life. Corruption will only increase, if anything it will be like a Wall-E type dystopia society.
A lot of things will change. Once nobody has to work or produce anything, there will not be a consumerist, hedonistic culture because there will be no supply and demand market. The 1% can't be the 1% if nobody is working to have the means to buy anything from theme.


Life will be completely different.
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