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I gave up lifting all together when I found that out last week OP.
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Originally Posted By MikeKimo⏩
Yah bro, we have a miscer ITT who naturally hit Frank Zane's physique lmao, so anything's possible, just hard work and a multi bro.Is Jeff Seid physique achievable natty? pls
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Originally Posted By beastmodemike⏩
I remember thinking Layne Norton was natural for the longest time. He was a big inspiration for me and I genuinely believed everything he said. What a joke.

I still believe he's natty. He's a bit bigger than me even though yeah, I'm out angling him here back in 2012 (and it's a terrible photo) and I've followed his contest prep literature and it led to me winning a natty show so I know his advice worked and the guy is not talking out of his ass when it comes to his methodologies. WHich leads me to believe that either he's juicing himself but also somehow knows how to get super lean and stage ready natty even though he doesn't have any experience in it himself.........something that seems far fetched to me, or he is indeed natty.
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If people want to know if a certain physique is attainable for them natty, post a picture of what you look like as well as what you want to look like.
Anyhow, it was such a slow realization that I was never mad. I just want to get lean at some point, thats my only goal anymore.
Anyhow, it was such a slow realization that I was never mad. I just want to get lean at some point, thats my only goal anymore.
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Originally Posted By Roasted⏩
Here is a pic of me and him. I'm natty. Yes, I was probably like 12% BF here and he's leaner but his physique near the end of his career is achievable natty. He was bigger at one point though and not sure if his bigger version is achievable.
Your fatass doesn't prove anything. Get to 7-8% and maintain Plitt's size then we'll talk about him being natty.
Here is a pic of me and him. I'm natty. Yes, I was probably like 12% BF here and he's leaner but his physique near the end of his career is achievable natty. He was bigger at one point though and not sure if his bigger version is achievable.
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lol people trashing Layne ITT.
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Originally Posted By Laconises⏩
OK:Your fatass doesn't prove anything. Get to 7-8% and maintain Plitt's size then we'll talk about him being natty.
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Originally Posted By Roasted⏩
I still believe he's natty. He's a bit bigger than me even though yeah, I'm out angling him here back in 2012 (and it's a terrible photo) and I've followed his contest prep literature and it led to me winning a natty show so I know his advice worked and the guy is not talking out of his ass when it comes to his methodologies. WHich leads me to believe that either he's juicing himself but also somehow knows how to get super lean and stage ready natty even though he doesn't have any experience in it himself.........something that seems far fetched to me, or he is indeed natty.
Another good pic showing what a difference candid vs. professional photography can make. Miscers will just cherry pick the few pictures that make someone look too good to be natty, and like I said earlier, this can be done with even an average physique.
I still believe he's natty. He's a bit bigger than me even though yeah, I'm out angling him here back in 2012 (and it's a terrible photo) and I've followed his contest prep literature and it led to me winning a natty show so I know his advice worked and the guy is not talking out of his ass when it comes to his methodologies. WHich leads me to believe that either he's juicing himself but also somehow knows how to get super lean and stage ready natty even though he doesn't have any experience in it himself.........something that seems far fetched to me, or he is indeed natty.
People also drastically underestimate the effect of contest conditioning. Years ago when I was still somewhat new to lifting I had a friend who did a show. We worked out every day together and this kid dieted down to nothing and got absolutely shredded and walked on stage at 142 lbs. Throughout his entire contest prep I found myself thinking, damn he's getting fuking HUGE, when in reality he was wasting away but creating stronger and stronger illusions the leaner he got.
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Originally Posted By Roasted⏩
take off the towel so we can check your balls to see you are not frauding.OK:

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Originally Posted By jacobcmurphy⏩
95% of ppl don't have the genetics for single digit bf% in the 180s at 5'9". 185lbs 8% 5'9" = 25.4 FFMI.You really don't know what you're talking about man
I can hit single digit BF% in the low/mid 170's and I have only been training for five years.
Give me another five years and I guarantee I can sit in the 180's at a single digit BF%
This chit takes a long time, any physique that is admirable usually took over a decade of consistency to achieve
I can hit single digit BF% in the low/mid 170's and I have only been training for five years.
Give me another five years and I guarantee I can sit in the 180's at a single digit BF%
This chit takes a long time, any physique that is admirable usually took over a decade of consistency to achieve
And post a pic where you were 170lbs single digit bf%.
Hint: There's a good likelihood you weren't in the single digits.
Based on your goal natty physique being Frank Zane, I think you're still in denial.
Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
professional photo's with perfect angles, lighting, and even some photoshop, ALL WITH A PUMP.
IMO its guys like you who are fooled by photography and angles/video editing that are delusional because with enough trickery you can make some 5'10 160lb kid whos been lifting for 1-2 years look like a non natty. Sad there's people who still don't understand this.
IMO its guys like you who are fooled by photography and angles/video editing that are delusional because with enough trickery you can make some 5'10 160lb kid whos been lifting for 1-2 years look like a non natty. Sad there's people who still don't understand this.
Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
These are actually some very good points here from the natty king. Pictures and angles can add 20lbs of lbm, a huge pump can add 10-20lbs of lbm. Contest conditioning can add the appearance of 10-20lbs LBM etc.Another good pic showing what a difference candid vs. professional photography can make. Miscers will just cherry pick the few pictures that make someone look too good to be natty, and like I said earlier, this can be done with even an average physique.
People also drastically underestimate the effect of contest conditioning. Years ago when I was still somewhat new to lifting I had a friend who did a show. We worked out every day together and this kid dieted down to nothing and got absolutely shredded and walked on stage at 142 lbs. Throughout his entire contest prep I found myself thinking, damn he's getting fuking HUGE, when in reality he was wasting away but creating stronger and stronger illusions the leaner he got.
People also drastically underestimate the effect of contest conditioning. Years ago when I was still somewhat new to lifting I had a friend who did a show. We worked out every day together and this kid dieted down to nothing and got absolutely shredded and walked on stage at 142 lbs. Throughout his entire contest prep I found myself thinking, damn he's getting fuking HUGE, when in reality he was wasting away but creating stronger and stronger illusions the leaner he got.
I'm lean right now and when I'm wearing a sweater nobody can tell I lift but when I lift in a tank top and get my pump on I get comments like, "Wow, I didn't know you were that big when you were wearing a sweater." It's because I'm not big, being lean just gives that illusion.
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Another good pic showing what a difference candid vs. professional photography can make. Miscers will just cherry pick the few pictures that make someone look too good to be natty, and like I said earlier, this can be done with even an average physique.
People also drastically underestimate the effect of contest conditioning. Years ago when I was still somewhat new to lifting I had a friend who did a show. We worked out every day together and this kid dieted down to nothing and got absolutely shredded and walked on stage at 142 lbs. Throughout his entire contest prep I found myself thinking, damn he's getting fuking HUGE, when in reality he was wasting away but creating stronger and stronger illusions the leaner he got.
People also drastically underestimate the effect of contest conditioning. Years ago when I was still somewhat new to lifting I had a friend who did a show. We worked out every day together and this kid dieted down to nothing and got absolutely shredded and walked on stage at 142 lbs. Throughout his entire contest prep I found myself thinking, damn he's getting fuking HUGE, when in reality he was wasting away but creating stronger and stronger illusions the leaner he got.

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I remember thinking physiques like frank mcgrath could be attained natty
lol i was like lol
As for greg plitt he for sure was using something at one point and so why would he all of a sudden quit using anything?
lol i was like lol
As for greg plitt he for sure was using something at one point and so why would he all of a sudden quit using anything?
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Originally Posted By meremortal⏩
The only picture I have of me in single digit is actually at 168 I think (Probably 1-2 years ago), but I'm not about to get in an argument over what BF% I was at because we obviously can't go back in time and re-measure it. I was at the higher end, probably 8 or 9 and I didn't stay there for long because it's not fun.95% of ppl don't have the genetics for single digit bf% in the 180s at 5'9". 185lbs 8% 5'9" = 25.4 FFMI.
And post a pic where you were 170lbs single digit bf%.
Hint: There's a good likelihood you weren't in the single digits.
Based on your goal natty physique being Frank Zane, I think you're still in denial.
And post a pic where you were 170lbs single digit bf%.
Hint: There's a good likelihood you weren't in the single digits.
Based on your goal natty physique being Frank Zane, I think you're still in denial.
Frank Zane's physique isn't my goal, but a similar physique is. I do realize that this is not something easy to accomplish.
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I always knew that my goal physique wasn't attainable natty ( physiques like bradley martyn ), but Im mad as fuk natty limit with chitty genetics is so low
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If I start cutting I should surpass my goal in a month tops, so I'm gonna say no.
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I only liked Zyzz and obviously he wasn't natty, so not really. Getting his size isn't particularly hard, but I thought it'd be less effort to get that lean when I started. It's probably just about doable natty but just isn't worth the effort unless you're making money off it.
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Originally Posted By Neybor⏩
My goal physique is Reg Park:your goal physique wasn't even natty LOL
Not guna lie, I was mad and immediately went into a denial phase which lasted about 6months where I was convinced I could look awesome with enough hard work.
Any other miscers here who used to be dilusional about gains and then had an "aw phuck bye" moment?
Not guna lie, I was mad and immediately went into a denial phase which lasted about 6months where I was convinced I could look awesome with enough hard work.
Any other miscers here who used to be dilusional about gains and then had an "aw phuck bye" moment?



I figured he was not natty pretty quickly. However I took this as a challenge to try and become as big as him naturally.
After 3 years I got there and lost motivation to become bigger. So now I am cutting down to get the definition down.
So you could say I realized I would have never have reached his level and surprised myself a bit.
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No I'm not mad at all because I will be able to reach a decent physique natty , and if I want more I'll just hop on and not be a puss c who cries that I'll never make it
whatever it takes right babe?
whatever it takes right babe?
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Originally Posted By Ampedlift⏩
Das it maneNo I'm not mad at all because I will be able to reach a decent physique natty , and if I want more I'll just hop on and not be a puss c who cries that I'll never make it
whatever it takes right babe?
whatever it takes right babe?
I lol real hard at people that haven't been training for over a decade talking about natty limits already
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I dont train for aesthetics anymore, fuk that homo chit, chicks dont even are about that
I want to look strong, athletic, similar to toquinho rousimar palhares

I want to look strong, athletic, similar to toquinho rousimar palhares
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These have always been my goal physiques:


i was depressed for like 2 years when i realized that not only would i never reach that height, but the arms i grew were gonna be my last
fukk this gay earth


i was depressed for like 2 years when i realized that not only would i never reach that height, but the arms i grew were gonna be my last
fukk this gay earth
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Originally Posted By jacobcmurphy⏩
IMHO, you can achieve a VERY VERY impressive physique natty that will impress anyone but the biggest gym rats with bigorexia. But yes, it will take years and your diet will have to be on point. I'm perfectly satsified with my natty physique and just seeing what the best is that I can achieve natty but ......Das it mane
I lol real hard at people that haven't been training for over a decade talking about natty limits already
I lol real hard at people that haven't been training for over a decade talking about natty limits already
Originally Posted By Zwicker⏩
^ this is also true.Joking aside, it's a tough pill to swallow. Seeing guys 3-5+ years younger start going to the gym looking like sticks, and then a year later they cruise on orange juice and [pretty much] overnight get that dried, permapump, 3D delt look. Suddenly they're strutting around like they know everything about lifting and dieting as well. All because of dat der Tropicana.
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Never had goal physique
but right from the start i knew that i dislike natty physiques and struggle that most natty's have with average genetics when they are lean
but right from the start i knew that i dislike natty physiques and struggle that most natty's have with average genetics when they are lean
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Originally Posted By Neybor⏩
It's to offset the other 90% of my posts that are 1 line of absolute nonsense. I'll begin using APA format for my lengthier responses.He's trolling himself bro lol who the fuk writes 350 word essay responses LOL
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