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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Not in the slightest, staffing is increasing year by year.This has already been happening tho.
Efficiencies in healthcare are fast improving.
Efficiencies in healthcare are fast improving.
Doctors, nurses, especially EN's and aides will be increasing for the rest of our lifetime with our ageing population.
RN is still a safe bet, but EN is an equivalent safe bet with the aged care market.
05-12-2016, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot⏩
loved your explanationlol @ the retards anticipating robot utopia
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05-12-2016, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
false, the sperm cells themselves have fat in their components (cell membranes etc.), as does the various secretions that make up a loadThere is no fat in semen, its all simple sugars water and carbohydrates.
not sure if it's in enough quantities though, probably a lot of leftover man milk for a bit of fat
there's got to be a way
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05-12-2016, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Black_Spit⏩
the big variable you're leaving out is that the human brain still had better processing power than computers.It's not possible. At the turn of the 20th century, they thought paper and pens/pencils replacing the blackboard would put teachers out of business. Then they thought VHS tapes, and then the personal computer would put teachers out of business. There are still schools and teachers and janitors and lunch ladies.
The music industry and Hollywood has survived Napster and the digital revolution. People are still making money. There are still artists, managers, producers, songwriters, people who go get coffee, people who sell merch, and personal assistants.
We could have the same conversation with respect to every single job market as technology has grown. People will always be on the cusp of a new industry and there will always be dollars on the other side of a breakthrough.
The music industry and Hollywood has survived Napster and the digital revolution. People are still making money. There are still artists, managers, producers, songwriters, people who go get coffee, people who sell merch, and personal assistants.
We could have the same conversation with respect to every single job market as technology has grown. People will always be on the cusp of a new industry and there will always be dollars on the other side of a breakthrough.
creating a computer system with stronger power than a human brain will take us "over the hump" into the new paradigm.
05-12-2016, 09:33 AM
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I heard that what you have been taught at school will no longer be taught to kids who are in primary schools today and they will eliminate most subjects/degrees.
Make your kids choose their careers wisely, scary times ahead.
Make your kids choose their careers wisely, scary times ahead.
05-12-2016, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Well I can't account for the un-accountable, but maybe I shouldn't say it's impossible.the big variable you're leaving out is that the human brain still had better processing power than computers.
creating a computer system with stronger power than a human brain will take us "over the hump" into the new paradigm.
creating a computer system with stronger power than a human brain will take us "over the hump" into the new paradigm.
In my opinion, we will adapt to changes in technology as we always have and human ingenuity will continue to provide us with emerging markets with jobs to perform.
05-12-2016, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By cjmadscientist⏩
it would be the equivalent of using the protein from celery as your main source of protein.false, the sperm cells themselves have fat in their components (cell membranes etc.), as does the various secretions that make up a load
not sure if it's in enough quantities though, probably a lot of leftover man milk for a bit of fat
there's got to be a way
not sure if it's in enough quantities though, probably a lot of leftover man milk for a bit of fat
there's got to be a way
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Originally Posted By Black_Spit⏩
maybe I'm optimistic, but what is wrong with humans enjoying the outdoors and instead of needing jobs/work, just let the robots create the "new economy" for us?Well I can't account for the un-accountable, but maybe I shouldn't say it's impossible.
In my opinion, we will adapt to changes in technology as we always have and human ingenuity will continue to provide us with emerging markets with jobs to perform.
In my opinion, we will adapt to changes in technology as we always have and human ingenuity will continue to provide us with emerging markets with jobs to perform.
If AI takes off the correct way, it might only take a few weeks for the exponential gain of AI to eliminate nearly every job on earth.
every emerging market would be invented/crushed by AI.
the human brain does NOT develop nearly as fast as Moore's law curve with computer processing power. Computers are a completely different animal, and will leave human intelligence in the dust once it catches momentum un-aided by humans..
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
yeah, that's too much work....I'll work on another planit would be the equivalent of using the protein from celery as your main source of protein.
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05-12-2016, 09:46 AM
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Only people that won't be LDARs in the future will be pro athletes / movie stars etc oh and politicians everyone else will be jobless.
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Originally Posted By CazU⏩
By saying we, I assume you are also a programmer. If so, I believe we both don't ever have the intention of taking away someone's pay check. You go to work and simply do your job. If you want to blame somebody, blame the company you're doing work for, to eliminate the need of humans for that task.not_a_fan_of_this/10 (u mirin that snake_case?)
I'm livid that the majority of programmers today are so money hungry that they are willing to develop chit that may screw us over. Recently, there was this article about having TEACHING become automated. So that we can be more "productive." R U serious??? It's called being aware of the consequence of your code. It just doesn't live in a vacuum. Especially in a time where it wields such commanding power. This is the reason why I had to turn down some internship offers. When software companies' main objective is making money instead of solving problems, it makes me cringe. We actually have the knowledge and technology to impact the world in a positive manner, but we choose phuckin money all the time.
At first, I was elated to see the huge influx of kids into CS at my school. I naively thought "more brains = more power to solve these issues." But that's not the phuckin case. Most of them copy each other's code and just change variable names. They only care about the supposed wealth that CS brings. Little do they know, with some effort and some conviction, they CAN actually change the world. It eats away at me man. Legit makes me sad
Old school programmers cared about the impact their code had. Where did we go wrong???.....
I'm livid that the majority of programmers today are so money hungry that they are willing to develop chit that may screw us over. Recently, there was this article about having TEACHING become automated. So that we can be more "productive." R U serious??? It's called being aware of the consequence of your code. It just doesn't live in a vacuum. Especially in a time where it wields such commanding power. This is the reason why I had to turn down some internship offers. When software companies' main objective is making money instead of solving problems, it makes me cringe. We actually have the knowledge and technology to impact the world in a positive manner, but we choose phuckin money all the time.
At first, I was elated to see the huge influx of kids into CS at my school. I naively thought "more brains = more power to solve these issues." But that's not the phuckin case. Most of them copy each other's code and just change variable names. They only care about the supposed wealth that CS brings. Little do they know, with some effort and some conviction, they CAN actually change the world. It eats away at me man. Legit makes me sad
Old school programmers cared about the impact their code had. Where did we go wrong???.....
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
You're optimistic about the future when robots/computers are our masters... and I'm the one writing science fiction?maybe I'm optimistic, but what is wrong with humans enjoying the outdoors and instead of needing jobs/work, just let the robots create the "new economy" for us?
If AI takes off the correct way, it might only take a few weeks for the exponential gain of AI to eliminate nearly every job on earth.
every emerging market would be invented/crushed by AI.
If AI takes off the correct way, it might only take a few weeks for the exponential gain of AI to eliminate nearly every job on earth.
every emerging market would be invented/crushed by AI.
If the future you foresee becomes reality, I don't think I share your optimism.
05-12-2016, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Black_Spit⏩
We wouldn't need jobs though. We wouldn't need to adapt. We could live without trying to perpetuate some outdated economic system.Well I can't account for the un-accountable, but maybe I shouldn't say it's impossible.
In my opinion, we will adapt to changes in technology as we always have and human ingenuity will continue to provide us with emerging markets with jobs to perform.
In my opinion, we will adapt to changes in technology as we always have and human ingenuity will continue to provide us with emerging markets with jobs to perform.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Moore's Law is simply physical, it's about transistors and Moore's law has come to an end, Intel hit a wall and had to delay their 10nm architecture and that's likely the end of the road with silicon.the human brain does NOT develop nearly as fast as Moore's law curve with computer processing power. Computers are a completely different animal, and will leave human intelligence in the dust once it catches momentum un-aided by humans..
Perhaps you have been out of the loop, but all good things have to come to an end.
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Both excited and nervous for the future, but one thing I feel strongly about is a lot of people are extremely over exaggerated with their opinions on what the "future" will bring.
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Originally Posted By Jorge0886⏩
Explain? If you're projecting into the indefinite future I think think almost nothing is off the table and most things being talked about will be possible at some pointBoth excited and nervous for the future, but one thing I feel strongly about is a lot of people are extremely over exaggerated with their opinions on what the "future" will bring.
05-12-2016, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted By pWally⏩
But what if we build robots to fix and build other robots?????Someone needs to build/fix the robots
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Originally Posted By m1n2v5⏩
Maybe. You're talking about it as though it's a fact. We're literally talking about science fiction right now.We wouldn't need jobs though. We wouldn't need to adapt. We could live without trying to perpetuate some outdated economic system.
The past is always the best predictor of the future though, and the past shows us adapting technology in the benefit us in the way I described.
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Originally Posted By Black_Spit⏩
no we're not. the technology to actually do most of these things is well on it's way, it's only a matter of when.We're literally talking about science fiction right now.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Definition of science fiction:no we're not. the technology to actually do most of these things is well on it's way, it's only a matter of when.
fiction based on imagined future scientific or technological advancesand major social or environmental changes, frequently portraying space or time travel and life on other planets.
Yes we are.
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Bigger and better things... like space exploration, moon mining, gas harvesting, etc. Somebody's gotta plan, execute and oversee stuff like this + new developments. R&D, etc. Jobs will be less low-brow for the most part.
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There will be a basic income of like 2000 a month, so everyone will be a poor ass slave peasant. Probably have to do simple tasks like mowing the lawn and cleaning the house of your 1% overlords
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Originally Posted By Better
^^ This. Everything eventually becomes the horse-and-buggy as the car industry is taking off...Bigger and better things... like space exploration, moon mining, gas harvesting, etc. Somebody's gotta plan, execute and oversee stuff like this + new developments. R&D, etc. Jobs will be less low-brow for the most part.
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Wake me up when it happens. I'm 31 now and it seems fuk all has happened for awhile now.
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Thats not what you have to worry about, before then technology will probably be used someway in terrorism that weve never saw before
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