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Thread: [Serious] Let's talk about how kids are literally BRED for Med School.

post 1442369701 05-15-2016, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9⏩
No one cares about the UK buddyboy. Or socialist europe for that matter.

We're the highest paid of any profession barring the top end ones (ex. pro athlete).
I'm sharing observations made here in my country. A high number of those who train here go abroad because the work conditions/pay isn't what they taught it would be. No need to get riled up.
Best of luck with the training, hope it works out for you. srs
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Originally Posted By Tormoz⏩
How did you decide on medicine? How did you narrow your search?
it often seems like ive been brainwashed to be a doctor. i decided to roll with it. i never had TRUE intrinsic motivation towards any profession so i feign intrinsic motivation to be a doctor and lo and behold i want to be a doc.

fake it till you make it bruv
post 1442370011 05-15-2016, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
I finish multivariable calculus with grade A and I will bet with my life you can not do it. Whenever I was in hospital there are idiots everywhere. Op and you all from medicine field in this tread sound like morons.
Just lol at this guy. You are so ignorant holy ****.
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Originally Posted By corvade⏩
it often seems like ive been brainwashed to be a doctor. i decided to roll with it. i never had TRUE intrinsic motivation towards any profession so i feign intrinsic motivation to be a doctor and lo and behold i want to be a doc.

fake it till you make it bruv
I refuse to live by someone elses decisions anymore, in other words, im tired of identity foreclosure. I need to find myself before I go insane, as your culture/parents and mine both force us to do what we dont want in order to fit the stereotype. Any of us can become nurses/ CRNA's and make over $250,000 a year, but do you really want it, deep down inside? I'm probably going to research this with the psychology department at school. Life's a struggle
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
Coursesaver.com, pay for it. You should pay me just for linking to you that site (srs). The guy is a god at teaching. Also khan academy is decent but coursesaver is fuking god tier if you listen to his lectures and take notes you will **** everyone up.
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Just do exactly what I said, listen to the lectures, take notes on them, if you didn't understand something 100% then pause and go back and rewatch it until you do. Then you will be good to go. Also he has practice quizzes as well as outlines already that you can print. You're welcome.
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9⏩
How am I naive? These aren't ideas pulled out of my ass, I've talked to and personally know a couple dozen physicians doing similar things who have given me lots of insight. Creativity and open-mindedness is how you get to the top. Sure not 100% of everything works out, but most of it will and that's more than good enough.
You'll find out champ
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We want the best doctors. Quality of health care is more important than equal opportunity job placement (with respect to parental influence) .

If a med school student's parents play a huge role in how well he does, that's just life.

Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
You greatly overestimate what you need to get into medical school. Maybe at the top tier ones you need insane EC's and research pubs, but at most you just need shadowing, some volunteering serving underprivileged people, and to do well in college and on the MCAT. It's a lot of work but totally doable. You don't have to be "bred" to do it lmao. My parents never forced me to study in HS and I rape every single asian and indian in my classes who all study their asses off like 6+ hours a day. That is my motivation to fcking destroy my classes and be the top in every class because they were total douchebags in HS to me (my HS was 70% Asian and Indian and Indians especially are total kunts when it comes to helping any non-Indian with academics, sorry but it's ****ing true and you probably know it just as well as I do. Asian are similar but not as racist and douchey to non-Asians).
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post 1442373201 05-16-2016, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted By AhDo⏩
We want the best doctors. Quality of health care is more important than equal opportunity job placement (with respect to parental influence) .

If a med school student's parents play a huge role in how well he does, that's just life.




what did they do to make you salty?
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Originally Posted By Tormoz⏩
I refuse to live by someone elses decisions anymore, in other words, im tired of identity foreclosure. I need to find myself before I go insane, as your culture/parents and mine both force us to do what we dont want in order to fit the stereotype. Any of us can become nurses/ CRNA's and make over $250,000 a year, but do you really want it, deep down inside? I'm probably going to research this with the psychology department at school. Life's a struggle
There's this old saying that misc loves..

do what you're good at so you can do what you love

it's recently dawned on me that perspective is everything. we have it soosososo good compared to the men who died in WW2 or are forced to go to war etc.

You can enjoy almost any job if you approach it with the right attitude m8
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Not sure if med school is worth it from a financial/effort perspective anymore.
post 1442373581 05-16-2016, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
Not sure if med school is worth it from a financial/effort perspective anymore.
mate, every decent profession requires long hours in late 20s/early thirties

do not, for your ownsake, disregard any profession for effort's sake
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
Not sure if med school is worth it from a financial/effort perspective anymore.
Only if business minded/able to get into a good specialty. But the income/status potential has dropped a lot though.
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Originally Posted By corvade⏩
mate, every decent profession requires long hours in late 20s/early thirties

do not, for your ownsake, disregard any profession for effort's sake
ok thanks for the tip man
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Originally Posted By corvade⏩
I'm aware of the high stress environment m8. You're correct haha, but I just can't see myself doing anything else tbh

The fact that you had all of this planned at an age you SHOULD have it planned (but most don't) means you definitely had your head in the right place, man. Good on you brotha. If I was in the same position, I'm not sure I could say the same. I truly have been blessed.
im 27 and have no clue what i should do


i make more than some doctors.

what should i do?
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I think it's just an asain/indian thing for the most part, and since universities cant just have all asains/indians in their med programs the white/hispanic/black kids can get away with not having to do all that stuff you do to get it.
keep hustling cuz
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I do not know why op worry so much. He do not have citizenship. Trump will win he go home.
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
Not sure if med school is worth it from a financial/effort perspective anymore.
It's not even close. You do medicine because you want to help people/do something interesting/be respected.

You're a fool if you expect the financial rewards to actual work effort ratio to be comparable to other professions
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
It's not even close. You do medicine because you want to help people/do something interesting/be respected.

You're a fool if you expect the financial rewards to actual work effort ratio to be comparable to other professions
Depends on what you go into. Derm has it pretty good.

I agree with you overall though. MD's earn 5x as much money for 20x as much work. And that's not even taking into account all the years spent studying/training, med school tuition, and foregone earnings.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
It's not even close. You do medicine because you want to help people/do something interesting/be respected.

You're a fool if you expect the financial rewards to actual work effort ratio to be comparable to other professions
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Originally Posted By F23⏩
Depends on what you go into. Derm has it pretty good.

I agree with you overall though. MD's earn 5x as much money for 20x as much work. And that's not even taking into account all the years spent studying/training, med school tuition, and foregone earnings.
As a consultant you can get away with doing moderate work for great money, it's the training programs & being a junior doctor that kills it

By the time you can start living it up you're ****ing 45 years old
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Waste of time in my opinion. Being done at 34 (if all goes well right after high school and your academic schedule stays on par), too much stress, too much politics in the field, etc. No thanks.
Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
It's not even close. You do medicine because you want to help people/do something interesting/be respected.

You're a fool if you expect the financial rewards to actual work effort ratio to be comparable to other professions
I genuinely don't know of any person that is going to med school for its true purpose, which should be the need to want to help people. It's either for the money, status, or parental influence (always the asian/indian kids)
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
As a consultant you can get away with doing moderate work for great money, it's the training programs & being a junior doctor that kills it

By the time you can start living it up you're ****ing 45 years old
I dunno. Swimmd99 on here (who I know IRL) is living pretty well as a first year attending. He's gotten promoted like twice already too. Gets a fair amount of time off from work too since he's academic. He hustled to get where he was, of course. And he's like 34.
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No, as a son of two doctors, they don't have great pay and certainly don't have fruitful lifestyles.

The thing with doctors is that they've been gloryfied to a ridiculous extent by showbusiness. They're seen as these walking angels that live in exciting hospitals saving lives, calling the shots, one minute you're rushing a patient to perform open heart surgery, the next one you're banging a hot nurse (a hot doctor if you're a woman) in a storage room.
That's why everyone and their mother wants to be a doctor or a nurse.

But that's Hollywood. Hospitals in real life are boring, endogamic communities, where you barely see the sunlight and are surrounded by despicable patients. If you want to make the hospital your life, you'll be miserable. And you won't make that much money.
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I don't envy doctors tbh. You might have lots of money and spend your vacations on the Bahamas but 1. You're always stressed out about some chit and 2. I fuk your wife.
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Originally Posted By BokaChele⏩
I don't envy doctors tbh. You might have lots of money and spend your vacations on the Bahamas but 1. You're always stressed out about some chit and 2. I fuk your wife.
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Have a pretty good friend who just finished his first year of med school. Says it's a crazy environment because a lot of the people he's in class with, he'll be right alongside them for the next x amount of years. And that because of this, he's pretty much forced to play the political game even though he'd prefer to tell some of the people he's going to school with that they're straight up kunts. Sometimes he'll bring med school friends to play basketball with us, and it's weird how intense they are about a silly game. Like I understand wanting to be competitive, but hoooly fuk we would clearly be fukkin around and the med school kids are giving it 110%, giving hard fouls, etc. Kinda strange but I totally get it. Long story short, we definitely need doctors, and I'd prefer them to be a good doc, intense at everything and a little kunty than mediocre and chill. Takes all kinds of people to run this world
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i majored in something completely unrelated to medicine/biology as an undergrad, didn't decide i wanted to do medicine until junior year as undergrad and still got in. i did a few of the things on your list but not nearly to extent that you make them out to be.

honestly, one of the things i dislike about medicine the most is like 75% of the class is people who are "bred" from day 1 to be doctors, they all follow the same boring cookie cutter path to get in, do the same extra curriculars, do the shadowing, just mindlessly checking off boxes just to puff up their application. i hate that med school is becoming even more stringent (eg now they require X hours of biochem, psychology, etc to apply) because it is taking all of the diversity out of the applicant pool and essentially making the path to med school an even more mindless endeavor of picking the same major, checking off every box they want, even if these aren't things the person is interested in doing in the first place.. i think it's a major mistake.. if everybody comes from the same background nobody is going to think different and bring fresh perspectives to things.
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Originally Posted By yoyohomieg5432⏩
i majored in something completely unrelated to medicine/biology as an undergrad, didn't decide i wanted to do medicine until junior year as undergrad and still got in. i did a few of the things on your list but not nearly to extent that you make them out to be.

honestly, one of the things i dislike about medicine the most is like 75% of the class is people who are "bred" from day 1 to be doctors, they all follow the same boring cookie cutter path to get in, do the same extra curriculars, do the shadowing, just mindlessly checking off boxes just to puff up their application. i hate that med school is becoming even more stringent (eg now they require X hours of biochem, psychology, etc to apply) because it is taking all of the diversity out of the applicant pool and essentially making the path to med school an even more mindless endeavor of picking the same major, checking off every box they want, even if these aren't things the person is interested in doing in the first place.. i think it's a major mistake.. if everybody comes from the same background nobody is going to think different and bring fresh perspectives to things.
youre completely correct about the perspective bit
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Originally Posted By bbsitum⏩
Not true at last in USA. They are PROTECTED FROM MARKET. They charge how much they want. It is not case nowhere else. You can not call around when you are in emergency who will do for cheaper price. You can not even ask how much something cost.
hopefully that will change eventually. it's disgusting how much medicine is for profit in the US.

good on those that genuinely want to help others but the system is so ****ed.
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You have the parents I wish mine were.

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Lol what a dumb as my father is.
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