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Everytime I See A Sumo Deadlift On Instagram Or YouTube I Immediately Hit Back
05-16-2016, 09:23 AM
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i would assume powerlifting started out as moving the most weight in the full lift
then later devolved to moving the most weight in any way possible, including squatting low bar to parallel instead of high bar, benching with those retarded arches, and deadlifting sumo because short people
the older one sounds better to me
then later devolved to moving the most weight in any way possible, including squatting low bar to parallel instead of high bar, benching with those retarded arches, and deadlifting sumo because short people
the older one sounds better to me
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05-16-2016, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By tonyparker69⏩
to be fair, you have to define what a "full lift" is. powerlifting is a competitive sport. with any sport, you'll seek out advantages; why would you ever handicap yourself? unless you dont care about winningi would assume powerlifting started out as moving the most weight in the full lift
then later devolved to moving the most weight in any way possible, including squatting low bar to parallel instead of high bar, benching with those retarded arches, and deadlifting sumo because short people
the older one sounds better to me
then later devolved to moving the most weight in any way possible, including squatting low bar to parallel instead of high bar, benching with those retarded arches, and deadlifting sumo because short people
the older one sounds better to me
so when it comes to PL, which is a very simple sport in itself, two important things are (1) taking advantage of your leverages and (2) lowering bar travel distance. Why deliberately increase the distance when that could mean increasing the chances of a failed lift?
For a lot of people, sumo deadlift will be advantageous because it relies more on the posterior chain, which is already built up through training the squat. Tack on the lower bar travel distance and you have the most competitive deadlift technique.
side note, what i've seen is that the "wider you go," in regards to bench, dead, or squat, the more technique is involved. (I have no scientific evidence to back this up). Also, there are plenty of low-bar, wide-stance squatters who can hit legal depth. It's simply more difficult to do and to judge, IMO.
05-16-2016, 09:35 AM
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Why the fuk do you care? Sumo feels much better for me due to my proportions so i pull sumo. I dont do it to decrease the ROM. It just feels better mechanically. Im not gonna start pulling conventional because sumo is "cheating".
05-16-2016, 09:37 AM
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Yeah of course. Because when lifting sumo 600lbs will magically float into the air without any effort from the lifter.
Its just a different way of lifting, get over it.
Its just a different way of lifting, get over it.
05-16-2016, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted By .aeterna⏩
Becuz the internet will think it's more impressive?Why deliberately increase the distance when that could mean increasing the chances of a failed lift?
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05-16-2016, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By tonyparker69⏩
you do realize that arching is nothing but compensation for lacking back thickness compare dan green "flat bench" ROm with most guys who arch ROM it will be almost the samebenching with those retarded arches, and deadlifting sumo because short people
also ironically sumo is prefered by mostly tall guys
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05-16-2016, 09:55 AM
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I just hit a huge pr deadlifting today after being injured for over 2.5 years I had a herniated disc today I hit a triple with the weight max before the injury.
I am so fukking happy right now I thought I was never ever coming back to lower body lifts.
so to all the people who have lower back injuries it's not over till it's over.
I am so fukking happy right now I thought I was never ever coming back to lower body lifts.
so to all the people who have lower back injuries it's not over till it's over.
05-16-2016, 10:03 AM
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OP, I keep seeing you talk about your buddies and their lifts...how much do you lift? I sure hope you have an impressive conventional deadlift considering all the chit you talk
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05-16-2016, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Nosferatu187⏩
Injured myself tons of time in the past. My back is basically an indestructible, titanium bodypart now. What dont kill you makes you strongerI just hit a huge pr deadlifting today after being injured for over 2.5 years I had a herniated disc today I hit a triple with the weight max before the injury.
I am so fukking happy right now I thought I was never ever coming back to lower body lifts.
so to all the people who have lower back injuries it's not over till it's over.
I am so fukking happy right now I thought I was never ever coming back to lower body lifts.
so to all the people who have lower back injuries it's not over till it's over.
05-16-2016, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
uhm like I said 2.5 years I thought I was done.Injured myself tons of time in the past. My back is basically an indestructible, titanium bodypart now. What dont kill you makes you stronger
I had nerve pains going to my upper right arm and snap action all around.
05-16-2016, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By baize82⏩
I dont lift or eat consistently enough to have big numbers, just got into lifting again recently. Can do 5 plates for probably 6-8 reps so I'm guessing a 6 plate deadlift for 1 at 178lbs probably.OP, I keep seeing you talk about your buddies and their lifts...how much do you lift? I sure hope you have an impressive conventional deadlift considering all the chit you talk
I dont lift that often but i still know enough about it to state my opinion and critique shiit.
Originally Posted By Nosferatu187⏩
oh chit misread. Thats a fukin damn long time for an injury. Stay safe manuhm like I said 2.5 years I thought I was done.
I had nerve pains going to my upper right arm and snap action all around.
I had nerve pains going to my upper right arm and snap action all around.
05-16-2016, 10:11 AM
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i can pull about the same using each technique but feel far more comfortable using sumo
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http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...99607043350101also, no. there are not studies on this. you have zero idea what you are talking about whatsoever. if someone takes gear and sits around, they will more than likely get fat. it's not some miracle drug that suddenly turns you into superman with no work. the one true thing about your post is the margin of error comment. the rest is blowing smoke.
05-16-2016, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
So by being open minded and trying something instead of following some made up "conventional or death" mantra like a brainless zealot makes you a sellout now?I am disappoint. Will never turn my back on conventional, Sell outs.
Shout out to the loyal conventional lifters out there who dont cheat on they no.1
Shout out to the loyal conventional lifters out there who dont cheat on they no.1
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05-16-2016, 10:21 AM
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that feel when I did sumo deads for years on my own before someone taught me conventional form.
sumo always just felt a little more natural/comfortable
sumo always just felt a little more natural/comfortable
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05-16-2016, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
so, if i tell you "video or negs" will you make excuses or be able to provide video proof?I dont lift or eat consistently enough to have big numbers, just got into lifting again recently. Can do 5 plates for probably 6-8 reps so I'm guessing a 6 plate deadlift for 1 at 178lbs probably.
I dont lift that often but i still know enough about it to state my opinion and critique shiit.
I dont lift that often but i still know enough about it to state my opinion and critique shiit.
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05-16-2016, 10:33 AM
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Sumo suits some people's bodies more than conventional, and for others conventional is better.
This is based on the shape and length of your bones, and how the femur inserts into the hip socket. It's not rocket science, but it is science. All you have to do is look at different peoples structural anatomy to see that the stance that suits each person varies from one person to the next. It has NOTHING to do with making a lift easier, or being able to pull more(although it DOES make sense that if you are using the stance that is best for YOUR body, you would be able to pull more with less discomfort and less chance of injury), whether that be conventional or sumo
Try educating yourself about this stuff before you just come post useless crap about something you have no clue what you are talking about
Ahhhh...the Internet, where anyone can post anything they want, no matter how stupid it is.
This is based on the shape and length of your bones, and how the femur inserts into the hip socket. It's not rocket science, but it is science. All you have to do is look at different peoples structural anatomy to see that the stance that suits each person varies from one person to the next. It has NOTHING to do with making a lift easier, or being able to pull more(although it DOES make sense that if you are using the stance that is best for YOUR body, you would be able to pull more with less discomfort and less chance of injury), whether that be conventional or sumo
Try educating yourself about this stuff before you just come post useless crap about something you have no clue what you are talking about
Ahhhh...the Internet, where anyone can post anything they want, no matter how stupid it is.
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05-16-2016, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
Stop faking being humble. Either way you're most likely lying. 95% sure you can't do 5 plates for 5 reps.I dont lift or eat consistently enough to have big numbers, just got into lifting again recently. Can do 5 plates for probably 6-8 reps so I'm guessing a 6 plate deadlift for 1 at 178lbs probably.
05-16-2016, 10:38 AM
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Sumo is gay. When I put on a belt and do sumo with straps I could probably do 100lbs more than conventional beltless.
05-16-2016, 10:40 AM
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fukked up my low back doing conventional deadlift and will do sumo when i can deadlift again crew.
i love conventional deadlifts but after they put too much pressure on the low back and it's venom for my injury.
i love conventional deadlifts but after they put too much pressure on the low back and it's venom for my injury.
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05-16-2016, 10:41 AM
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05-16-2016, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By baize82⏩
I've never actually gone for 6 plates, thats just a 1rm i estimatso, if i tell you "video or negs" will you make excuses or be able to provide video proof?
but I feel confident i could provide proof of 5 plates for 6 reps atleast and proof of weight yeah
thing is i dont wanna post my face or gym so it'd be harder to go about. But i'm still down for someth
Originally Posted By OneWheelUp⏩
lol you unaware AF. Everyone who knows me knows I'm not a srs lifter. I didnt say i dont train hard...i am just not consistent in diet or training.Stop faking being humble. Either way you're most likely lying. 95% sure you can't do 5 plates for 5 reps.
05-16-2016, 10:52 AM
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05-16-2016, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
how am I gonna know its you and not one of your buddies?I've never actually gone for 6 plates, thats just a 1rm i estimat
but I feel confident i could provide proof of 5 plates for 6 reps atleast and proof of weight yeah
thing is i dont wanna post my face or gym so it'd be harder to go about. But i'm still down for someth
but I feel confident i could provide proof of 5 plates for 6 reps atleast and proof of weight yeah
thing is i dont wanna post my face or gym so it'd be harder to go about. But i'm still down for someth
probably should have just negged and moved on, but I'm all about letting a fellow prove himself if he wants. not trying to be a dick at all, btw, just having a little fun. just rustles me when people complain about sumo. i'm a conventional puller fwiw
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05-16-2016, 10:54 AM
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lol @ sheen
05-16-2016, 10:57 AM
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05-16-2016, 10:58 AM
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Do you close your eyes when people do them at the gym or have you only seen them on the interwebz?
My secret? Texting between sets.
05-16-2016, 11:01 AM
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05-16-2016, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted By baize82⏩
I'll post sheen AF on a oiecenof paper and the date? Not posting my face no matter what. I've pisted my physique before so people know what I look likehow am I gonna know its you and not one of your buddies?
probably should have just negged and moved on, but I'm all about letting a fellow prove himself if he wants. not trying to be a dick at all, btw, just having a little fun. just rustles me when people complain about sumo. i'm a conventional puller fwiw
probably should have just negged and moved on, but I'm all about letting a fellow prove himself if he wants. not trying to be a dick at all, btw, just having a little fun. just rustles me when people complain about sumo. i'm a conventional puller fwiw
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