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Originally Posted By White-Belt⏩
strong understanding of biology you got thereAnd everyone of those people are legitimate retards.
Its very simple, if Fin causes ED because it reduces DHT, then stopping Fin will reverse ED because fin levels return to normal.
Anyone who says that ED remains has ED independent of Fin usuage. It isn't possible for Fin to cause ED when you aren't taking it.
Lets use some common sense here.
Its very simple, if Fin causes ED because it reduces DHT, then stopping Fin will reverse ED because fin levels return to normal.
Anyone who says that ED remains has ED independent of Fin usuage. It isn't possible for Fin to cause ED when you aren't taking it.
Lets use some common sense here.
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Well that sucks OP, What you need PCT protocol, just without HCG.
Maybe. Clomid for 30 days at around 50-100mg
And then Nolva 20-mg for 45 days.
But go and consult andrologist.
Maybe. Clomid for 30 days at around 50-100mg
And then Nolva 20-mg for 45 days.
But go and consult andrologist.
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go running that usually helps me out.
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Originally Posted By AlbinoScience⏩
Lol - explain.strong understanding of biology you got there
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Originally Posted By SirTony⏩
bro that is too muchWell that sucks OP, What you need PCT protocol, just without HCG.
Maybe. Clomid for 30 days at around 50-100mg
And then Nolva 20-mg for 45 days.
But go and consult andrologist.
Maybe. Clomid for 30 days at around 50-100mg
And then Nolva 20-mg for 45 days.
But go and consult andrologist.
Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
yh any type of exercise helps, but its seems like a short term fix :/go running that usually helps me out.
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05-18-2016, 11:03 AM
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Used Propecia for 1.5 years. I had absolutely no sides for the first year, then i crashed probably around the 1 year and 4 months mark. I quit that drug the very same day i had a hot naked girl on top of me and dick didnt even move.
You never know with FIN. Some people get sides immediately, others take even years for sides to show up. Its a very complex drug and at this very moment, several studies are being made on it, and a couple big ones are expected ot be published this year.
Everyone on Propecia saying they have been using it for years with no sides, thread lightly. Many people used to say the same until it happened to them.
You never know with FIN. Some people get sides immediately, others take even years for sides to show up. Its a very complex drug and at this very moment, several studies are being made on it, and a couple big ones are expected ot be published this year.
Everyone on Propecia saying they have been using it for years with no sides, thread lightly. Many people used to say the same until it happened to them.
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Originally Posted By StrawHat94⏩
It might be, or it might be not enough. Only Blood Work and good andrologist can tell for surebro that is too much
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Originally Posted By SirTony⏩
Judging by OP's experience which is very similar to mine, going on TRT, changing diet, working out, shedding fat, taking zinc or whatever **** you can think of wont help at all. Only time helped me. Now i have been OFF that **** for almost 2 years and still not even close to being back to 100%.It might be, or it might be not enough. Only Blood Work and good andrologist can tell for sure
Really sorry to hear your story OP, since i know how hard it can be to go trough that **** being this young. Viagra/Cialis may become your best friend, dont be ashamed to use them, its not your fault that some idiot doctor prescribed you that **** without letting you know the risks.
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I used it for over a year with no sides (although it was bought online so who knows if legit). Just decided to stop taking it one day because I didn't find it worth the risk anymore.
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Originally Posted By jakeeck⏩
Im thinking of going that route as well. Got a HT done but i dont know how long my natty hair will hold on given that im not even getting near propecia. If it ever comes to that, i have no problem shavng my head and getting that **** done as well.I used it for over a year with no sides (although it was bought online so who knows if legit). Just decided to stop taking it one day because I didn't find it worth the risk anymore.
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Thats the least of my worries tho, right now i just wanna get my libido back.
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Originally Posted By ZenBowman⏩
It doesn't lower testosterone, actually it potentially raises testosterone by inhibiting its conversion to DHT (it's 5AR blocker, not a testosterone inhibitor).Advice: Don't take drugs that will boost something superficial like hair by lowering your testosterone.
That being said, OP you could have shutdown your HPTA, which can lead to lowered testosterone if things aren't firing properly. The science here is murky because drug pharmacies aren't really putting funds in to researching it, but get your test, LH, FSH and so forth tested.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Proviron will help for sure, but thats only temporary solution. Becouse despite the fact that liver toxicity of Proviron is very low, you still cant cycle it more then 4 moths.Judging by OP's experience which is very similar to mine, going on TRT, changing diet, working out, shedding fat, taking zinc or whatever **** you can think of wont help at all. Only time helped me. Now i have been OFF that **** for almost 2 years and still not even close to being back to 100%.
Really sorry to hear your story OP, since i know how hard it can be to go trough that **** being this young. Viagra/Cialis may become your best friend, dont be ashamed to use them, its not your fault that some idiot doctor prescribed you that **** without letting you know the risks.
Really sorry to hear your story OP, since i know how hard it can be to go trough that **** being this young. Viagra/Cialis may become your best friend, dont be ashamed to use them, its not your fault that some idiot doctor prescribed you that **** without letting you know the risks.
But 50 to 100 mg ED of Proviron will help alot.
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Originally Posted By jakeeck⏩
Are you going to rock the buzz forever when you get it? how much does it cost?I used it for over a year with no sides (although it was bought online so who knows if legit). Just decided to stop taking it one day because I didn't find it worth the risk anymore.
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Originally Posted By albertlei⏩
Yeah. I already buzz it with no guard with my clippers.Are you going to rock the buzz forever when you get it? how much does it cost?
It costs anywhere from about 2300-4500 depending on where you go and how much you need done.
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I went through a phase in my early 20s I didnt care to have sex...for a good 1 year at least. If I could go back in time to tell myself what to do Id tell myself to go get a full blood panel just to see how my body is acting.
Do it man, it could help a ton
Do it man, it could help a ton
Originally Posted By TypicalGamer⏩
can confirm...been on .5mg/day propecia for 2 years. Blood work every 6 months and before I started I was at 600 over all test. Two years later, I average right around 800. Training and diet have a LOT to do with changing that number though. You cant sit at home eating pizza and expect test to raise while on it. You have to promote productionIt doesn't lower testosterone, actually it potentially raises testosterone by inhibiting its conversion to DHT (it's 5AR blocker, not a testosterone inhibitor).
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Originally Posted By TypicalGamer⏩
Thanks didn't knew that.It doesn't lower testosterone, actually it potentially raises testosterone by inhibiting its conversion to DHT (it's 5AR blocker, not a testosterone inhibitor).
Well then the Proviron is complete opposite"active form of DHT" and might be OP best chance to recover his libido.
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05-18-2016, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By SirTony⏩
Proviron is an oral dht. Basically he's getting rid of his endogenous dht by taking fin then taking proviron to up his dht exogenously and put a bandaid over his previous bandaid. Mean while ****ing up his endogenous test production.Thanks didn't knew that.
Well then the Proviron is complete opposite"active form of DHT" and might be OP best chance to recover his libido.
Well then the Proviron is complete opposite"active form of DHT" and might be OP best chance to recover his libido.
lol why?
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Originally Posted By vulgarin⏩
Proviron will not inhibit his natural Test production "some people even use Proviron on PCT". It will raise his DHT levels and will most likely accelerate hairloss. But then OP have to chose either low libido and slow hairloss"you cant fight genetics" or higher libido and accelarated hairloss.Proviron is an oral dht. Basically he's getting rid of his endogenous dht by taking fin then taking proviron to up his dht exogenously and put a bandaid over his previous bandaid. Mean while ****ing up his endogenous test production.
lol why?
lol why?
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Originally Posted By vulgarin⏩
Yeah, when you are developing/growing it does. Once you're done with that chit it doesn't keep "making you a man".If you are balding accept that you just have **** tier hair genetics and be done with it.
Fin ****s your dht.dht is what makes you a man.
Fin ****s your dht.dht is what makes you a man.
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Originally Posted By SirTony⏩
Proviron will lower lh/fsh thus inhibiting test. Pls go theres studies on this but anyway I agree no point to do both at the same time basically just taking **** for the sake of taking it. Get rid of the fin and fix your hormones so you don't need any of this **** and if you are worried about hair get a transplant.Proviron will not inhibit his natural Test production "some people even use Proviron on PCT". It will raise his DHT levels and will most likely accelerate hairloss. But then OP have to chose either low libido and slow hairloss"you cant fight genetics" or higher libido and accelarated hairloss.
Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
Not being able to get your dick up...how manly.Yeah, when you are developing/growing it does. Once you're done with that chit it doesn't keep "making you a man".
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
not sheriff srs. That's like saying testosterone isn't important once you've stopped developing. DHT and testosterone are both important for maintaining male characteristics and sexual function in menYeah, when you are developing/growing it does. Once you're done with that chit it doesn't keep "making you a man".
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Originally Posted By Mai91⏩
This.Rather just deal with alopecia then lose my libido.
Rather be a bald kunt, than some kunt who needs to fold his dick in half to get it in.
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So many stupid and borderline autistic posts in this thread yet again. Refuse to waste time to even bother correcting as you tin-foilers think everything and anything is out to permanently leave you disabled. Stay ignorant, and keep balding bros.
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Stay the fuk away from fin brahs srs. The sides for many are permanent or at least very long term. Guys quit the drug and have ed problems for years after along with shrinking dink etc. A friend of mine lost an inch overall in size and girth very srs.
Sad how drugs are fuking up young people these days. Accutane does the same thing.
Sad how drugs are fuking up young people these days. Accutane does the same thing.
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Originally Posted By xavengedx23⏩
harsh but 100% true descriptor of almost all miscers. Funny thing is, most people will respond to threads like this that have never even taken it. Just read about it on here lol. The equivalent is like someone having a friend in the NFL and that person saying they play in the NFLSo many stupid and borderline autistic posts in this thread yet again. Refuse to waste time to even bother correcting as you tin-foilers think everything and anything is out to permanently leave you disabled. Stay ignorant, and keep balding bros.
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baldcell and lonely with a working dick...
or nice hairline and cant get a boner.. lmao
or nice hairline and cant get a boner.. lmao
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