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05-21-2016, 02:22 AM
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All according to the overlords plan.
1-Make white women as unwifable and stupid as possible to the point where only beta providers want them
2-Rest of white males will either never reproduce with a white woman or settle with a woman of any other race
3-Eliminate white people
You can't make this **** up....
1-Make white women as unwifable and stupid as possible to the point where only beta providers want them
2-Rest of white males will either never reproduce with a white woman or settle with a woman of any other race
3-Eliminate white people
You can't make this **** up....
05-21-2016, 02:23 AM
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how do you guys feel about kids w/o marriage though? it feels like another one of those things that became institutionalized in society where if you want kids, you gotta marry.
frankly, i don't see myself marrying or kids in the future, not cause FA ****, but because I just don't see myself having a kid or marriage that literally holds no benefit for men. but how would ppl who wants kids, but don't want to marry, deal with this dilemma? inb4 child support crap
frankly, i don't see myself marrying or kids in the future, not cause FA ****, but because I just don't see myself having a kid or marriage that literally holds no benefit for men. but how would ppl who wants kids, but don't want to marry, deal with this dilemma? inb4 child support crap
05-21-2016, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted By ThePumpmaster⏩
Are you all there in the head? Srs questionIt doesn't matter what you see. BRB... I work in a hospital so everyone must be a doctor or a nurse.
It's a statistic, not a wild claim or an opinion.
It's a statistic, not a wild claim or an opinion.
Firstly your 'article' is from cns news. now I'm a conservative and even I wouldn't believe anything they write.
Secondly, the 70% statistic is quoted from "Janice Shaw Crouse, author of “Marriage Matters.” (Yeah, who?)
So what's the source?
Is it a reputable research organization?
You have the hide to accuse me of conformation bias, yet you read this trash that circulates on MGTOW/redpill forums full of bitter losers and pass it off as statistics cos it fits your own personal narrative
Edit: Strong 'statistic' ******* hahah
Update:
Holy chit, just did some digging, and this 'statistic' is from the authors "own research"
Hahah, it's fukcin bullchit, it's made up. Disregard this whole thread
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...and-perpetual/
My research indicates that from a low of just over 19 percent in 1966, the proportion of all men ages 20 to 54 who are unmarried is now more than one-half.
05-21-2016, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Your Father and Grandfather lived in a very very very different world. We are in the Social media/Tinder/Smartphone generation, everything your Father and Grandfather said has no relevance whatsoever in the current world of dating and relationships.I'm not sure about most guys not getting married/having kids OP, but most miscers sure won't because according to most miscers...
-Every female is an undeserving sloot
-Raising and loving kids to continue your legacy and the maturity and satisfaction that comes with that process isn't as fun as staying single, getting sh*tfaced every weekend until your 60, and banging random sloots(something which most miscers can't accomplish anyway)
-Marriage is some sort of "evil" created by religion to control people
Lmao if you expect substantive answers from a bunch of bitter, FA misogynists...half of whom are still virgins, can't get a date, and spend the majority of their day jerking to tranny porn and sitting in their basement while miscing.
My parents have been together 22 years and they still act crazy together.Both will be the first to admit that marriage and kids are no cake walk. However, nothing good in life comes easy as any of you who have ever achieved anything in life should know. The greatest satisfaction comes from giving of yourself to others.
Life is about relationships. Being happy is about having good relationships.My dad and grandpaboth drilled that into my head from a young age. Hopefully some of you will figure that out before you're 60, single, and realize you've devoted your entire life to yourself.
-Every female is an undeserving sloot
-Raising and loving kids to continue your legacy and the maturity and satisfaction that comes with that process isn't as fun as staying single, getting sh*tfaced every weekend until your 60, and banging random sloots(something which most miscers can't accomplish anyway)
-Marriage is some sort of "evil" created by religion to control people
Lmao if you expect substantive answers from a bunch of bitter, FA misogynists...half of whom are still virgins, can't get a date, and spend the majority of their day jerking to tranny porn and sitting in their basement while miscing.
My parents have been together 22 years and they still act crazy together.Both will be the first to admit that marriage and kids are no cake walk. However, nothing good in life comes easy as any of you who have ever achieved anything in life should know. The greatest satisfaction comes from giving of yourself to others.
Life is about relationships. Being happy is about having good relationships.My dad and grandpaboth drilled that into my head from a young age. Hopefully some of you will figure that out before you're 60, single, and realize you've devoted your entire life to yourself.
They are so far out of touch with the current environment that whatever they say means diddly squat because it is not applicable to today.
05-21-2016, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Bar182⏩
He's right you know.Your Father and Grandfather lived in a very very very different world. We are in the Social media/Tinder/Smartphone generation, everything your Father and Grandfather said has no relevance whatsoever in the current world of dating and relationships.
They are so far out of touch with the current environment that whatever they say means diddly squat because it is not applicable to today.
They are so far out of touch with the current environment that whatever they say means diddly squat because it is not applicable to today.
05-21-2016, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
My parents have been together around 34 years and still act like they've not long met. Of course they've had their ups and downs. My mum always told me that relationships take hard work and effort to keep it going. I've seen relationships fall apart at the 1 year mark because both or one of the parties has stopped trying and got bored. And these days there are so many more options to meet someone else, and more options in general (access to travel, meet new people, more opportunities) so people give up easier and just think "on to the next."My parents have been together 22 years and they still act crazy together. Both will be the first to admit that marriage and kids are no cake walk. However, nothing good in life comes easy as any of you who have ever achieved anything in life should know. The greatest satisfaction comes from giving of yourself to others.
Arnold himself says that you need to leave this work having helped somebody else...that you need to get outside yourself.
If all you're concerned about is what's "easy" or "fun", then yea, don't get married. For that matter, don't pursue anything in life. Drink, fap, and LDAR. That's the easy way.
Life is about relationships. Being happy is about having good relationships. My dad and grandpa both drilled that into my head from a young age. Hopefully some of you will figure that out before you're 60, single, and realize you've devoted your entire life to yourself.
Arnold himself says that you need to leave this work having helped somebody else...that you need to get outside yourself.
If all you're concerned about is what's "easy" or "fun", then yea, don't get married. For that matter, don't pursue anything in life. Drink, fap, and LDAR. That's the easy way.
Life is about relationships. Being happy is about having good relationships. My dad and grandpa both drilled that into my head from a young age. Hopefully some of you will figure that out before you're 60, single, and realize you've devoted your entire life to yourself.
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05-21-2016, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Melis689⏩
You'd know.My parents have been together around 34 years and still act like they've not long met. Of course they've had their ups and downs. My mum always told me that relationships take hard work and effort to keep it going. I've seen relationships fall apart at the 1 year mark because both or one of the parties has stopped trying and got bored.And these days there are so many more options to meet someone else, and more options in general (access to travel, meet new people, more opportunities) so people give up easier and just think "on to the next."
05-21-2016, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Agreed, especially the overplayed cards part. I can't count how many women I've met who basically cashed it all in so early in life. 24 years old, 3 kids, possibly lives with parents, looking for "the real deal." Those women are just already spent goods, really.Women have overplayed their cards and now any half intelligent self respecting male is gonna avoid marriage like the plague
Most women don't even deserve a serious long term relationship at this stage
Most women don't even deserve a serious long term relationship at this stage
The odd thing is the women like that far outnumber the amount of men in a similar situation.
05-21-2016, 04:03 AM
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once you detach sex from relationships, there is really no point
marriage is a contract easily broken and the one who put in the least work wins
there is only one legit reason to get married, and that is if youve been dating since high school into your mid 20s and you are still dating
otherwise, snip ur balls and bang every sloot in sight
marriage is a contract easily broken and the one who put in the least work wins
there is only one legit reason to get married, and that is if youve been dating since high school into your mid 20s and you are still dating
otherwise, snip ur balls and bang every sloot in sight
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05-21-2016, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
alot of men are stuck with child supportAgreed, especially the overplayed cards part. I can't count how many women I've met who basically cashed it all in so early in life. 24 years old, 3 kids, possibly lives with parents, looking for "the real deal." Those women are just already spent goods, really.
The odd thing is the women like that far outnumber the amount of men in a similar situation.
The odd thing is the women like that far outnumber the amount of men in a similar situation.
the only way to win is if your a dead broke phucker in the first place with nothing to lose
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05-21-2016, 04:08 AM
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I bet there will be a lot of FA beta providers that end up marrying all the divorced single mothers.
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05-21-2016, 04:09 AM
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Although life long Disney style monogamy isn't natural to humans, the advent of birth control and astronomical advancement of hypergamy (through the Internet) has made the once strong bonds of a relationship very weak.
Self-aware men calculate the cost-benefit in a very economical way and are finding that the lemon is not worth the squeeze. Never mind that all around average men arent getting laid regularly by attractive women which leads to the rot culture we have today.
It makes more sense to some men to bang randoms when given the chance, play video games, chill with bros, play sports and indulge in other personal hobbies than get married or seriously commit to a woman.
It's sad. Like the Calhoun Mice Experiment. What should a man do? Pursue vigorous hedonism or dedicate themselves to altruistic values in a society destined to degeneracy?
Self-aware men calculate the cost-benefit in a very economical way and are finding that the lemon is not worth the squeeze. Never mind that all around average men arent getting laid regularly by attractive women which leads to the rot culture we have today.
It makes more sense to some men to bang randoms when given the chance, play video games, chill with bros, play sports and indulge in other personal hobbies than get married or seriously commit to a woman.
It's sad. Like the Calhoun Mice Experiment. What should a man do? Pursue vigorous hedonism or dedicate themselves to altruistic values in a society destined to degeneracy?
05-21-2016, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
conservative crewJust accept it man. Most of these guys have never touched a real vag*na much less had a real date. They have to convince themselves that women and marriage are completely evil in order to justify their own shortcomings.
trump 2016
you are the minority.... your train of thought is different from most people, and sure you might find a girl with similar morals..... but most of us arent gonna find girls with that mentality, when we arent conservative christians.
also, if we do, wtf do i have in common with conservative christian white girls? nothing..... so i wont date them let alone marry them if i dont like their personality.
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05-21-2016, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted By liftasaurus⏩
this is a very very good point.you're not even part of the social media generation. for people who are 20 now.. their peers are going to see a MASSIVE decline in marriage and kids. and we're going to import massive amounts of immigrants. the world will turn into chaos
Im 28, and the difference between my year 1988 and the younger ones from 1998 is far. They are even more promiscous, living freely. Have friends who are teachers, and they say that in these days everyone is wanting to be outgoing, extrovert, popular and cool. They are being thought from their parents. No one wants to be a loser or have few friends. Social media is a gamechanger. Everyone has nudes of everyone lol.
I strongly believe that the 1998 generation will pretty much change the statistics even further. Very few will marry and actually stay together for a longer period of time. The 1998 generaion is more aggressive sexually and socially.
got to remember. I grew up in a time where no one had cellphones until the age of 13 (2001). Even then they where simple, no cameras, etc.
The 1998 generation is raised up with cellphones from age 5, and already experiencing highly explotation from their parents on ********
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05-21-2016, 04:18 AM
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That's because western culture is decadent and feminism just manufactures unmarriagable women.
Women learn from the media that they should treat short guys like crap so they leave short guys to the dust... Back in the days when people valued integrity, loyalty, and honour, even short guys got action. But now women are hypergamous - more than ever.
Women just flat out refuse to date short men, so short men in particular are more likely to go MGTOW and forgo marriage and kids.
The answer is that women ruined western ideals that made the west so great to begin with. The family is dead.
Women learn from the media that they should treat short guys like crap so they leave short guys to the dust... Back in the days when people valued integrity, loyalty, and honour, even short guys got action. But now women are hypergamous - more than ever.
Women just flat out refuse to date short men, so short men in particular are more likely to go MGTOW and forgo marriage and kids.
The answer is that women ruined western ideals that made the west so great to begin with. The family is dead.
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05-21-2016, 05:20 AM
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I would love to have kids and marry some day but fact is that no women finds me attractive because of my height.
I used to be a guy that didn't ever want marriage and kids but the fact is that what makes life special are the bonds we form. No bond is greater than parent and child.
But yeah.. women are cruel and ignorant and think that being a wageslave makes them independent whereas staying at home taking care of the kids makes you oppressed. That's wrong you decadent whores. And that's why Islam will take Europe - because of women like you.
I used to be a guy that didn't ever want marriage and kids but the fact is that what makes life special are the bonds we form. No bond is greater than parent and child.
But yeah.. women are cruel and ignorant and think that being a wageslave makes them independent whereas staying at home taking care of the kids makes you oppressed. That's wrong you decadent whores. And that's why Islam will take Europe - because of women like you.
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Originally Posted By Sargealex92⏩
You're being harsh on yourself there. I know short guys who are in long term relationships and ones who get action. But I do get what you are saying in that a lot of westernised people can be shallow. I think it goes back to the generation that we live in and the amount of options people have with social media and the likes.That's because western culture is decadent and feminism just manufactures unmarriagable women.
Women learn from the media that they should treat short guys like crap so they leave short guys to the dust... Back in the days when people valued integrity, loyalty, and honour, even short guys got action. But now women are hypergamous - more than ever.
Women just flat out refuse to date short men, so short men in particular are more likely to go MGTOW and forgo marriage and kids.
The answer is that women ruined western ideals that made the west so great to begin with. The family is dead.
Women learn from the media that they should treat short guys like crap so they leave short guys to the dust... Back in the days when people valued integrity, loyalty, and honour, even short guys got action. But now women are hypergamous - more than ever.
Women just flat out refuse to date short men, so short men in particular are more likely to go MGTOW and forgo marriage and kids.
The answer is that women ruined western ideals that made the west so great to begin with. The family is dead.
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05-21-2016, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Boerdeur⏩
Not a racist post but very misguided/ignorant. None of your western taxes subsidize African children...where in the world did you get that from?this is not good at all... no racist but its the african population that is exploding (because of the west subsidising it)
you dont want whites to not have kids yet letting africans outbreed everyone
whites should be having as many kids as possible, but they cant because they get taxed out the arse to pay for africans to breed.
you dont want whites to not have kids yet letting africans outbreed everyone
whites should be having as many kids as possible, but they cant because they get taxed out the arse to pay for africans to breed.
The only money that goes from the west to Africa for children is through "charity" organizations etc, and unfortunately a large chunk of that money never really reaches its intended audience due to corruption on both ends.
The problem with the booming African population is due to three main things i can think of:
1. Poverty & lack of education: The less educated and impoverished Africans are the ones breeding a lot of children. There is somewhat a direct correlation of; 'the poorer they are, the more children they have', hence There is a need to educate them on family planning tied to financial planning etc. The more educated Africans know how to plan families, the financial burdens etc and hence you will find that they tend to have less children.
2. Government subsidies: Some African governments (like South Africa) have a subsidy and welfare system that caters towards disadvantages kids. Although it is of good intent, a large mass of the (again poorer) populations are using child welfare system as a means to an income, and hence they breed more kids as a result.
3. Degeneracy of society as a whole: It has somewhat become a fashionable trend for people to have (multiple) children outside marriage. This is one of the biggest issues Africa faces (just like the rest of the world). Morality has gone to the dogs, as popping babies outside of a stable institution has somewhat become the norm and is rarely if ever shunned upon.
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Originally Posted By FuqurLs⏩
i was kind of being over the top,Not a racist post but very misguided/ignorant. None of your western taxes subsidize African children...where in the world did you get that from?
The only money that goes from the west to Africa for children is through "charity" organizations etc, and unfortunately a large chunk of that money never really reaches its intended audience due to corruption on both ends.
The problem with the booming African population is due to three main things i can think of:
1. Poverty & lack of education: The less educated and impoverished Africans are the ones breeding a lot of children. There is somewhat a direct correlation of; 'the poorer they are, the more children they have', hence There is a need to educate them on family planning tied to financial planning etc. The more educated Africans know how to plan families, the financial burdens etc and hence you will find that they tend to have less children.
2. Government subsidies: Some African governments (like South Africa) have a subsidy and welfare system that caters towards disadvantages kids. Although it is of good intent, a large mass of the (again poorer) populations are using child welfare system as a means to an income, and hence they breed more kids as a result.
3. Degeneracy of society as a whole: It has somewhat become a fashionable trend for people to have (multiple) children outside marriage. This is one of the biggest issues Africa faces (just like the rest of the world). Morality has gone to the dogs, as popping babies outside of a stable institution has somewhat become the norm and is rarely if ever shunned upon.
The only money that goes from the west to Africa for children is through "charity" organizations etc, and unfortunately a large chunk of that money never really reaches its intended audience due to corruption on both ends.
The problem with the booming African population is due to three main things i can think of:
1. Poverty & lack of education: The less educated and impoverished Africans are the ones breeding a lot of children. There is somewhat a direct correlation of; 'the poorer they are, the more children they have', hence There is a need to educate them on family planning tied to financial planning etc. The more educated Africans know how to plan families, the financial burdens etc and hence you will find that they tend to have less children.
2. Government subsidies: Some African governments (like South Africa) have a subsidy and welfare system that caters towards disadvantages kids. Although it is of good intent, a large mass of the (again poorer) populations are using child welfare system as a means to an income, and hence they breed more kids as a result.
3. Degeneracy of society as a whole: It has somewhat become a fashionable trend for people to have (multiple) children outside marriage. This is one of the biggest issues Africa faces (just like the rest of the world). Morality has gone to the dogs, as popping babies outside of a stable institution has somewhat become the norm and is rarely if ever shunned upon.
so let me rephrase: africa has always kept their population in check because of the way they breed (lots of kids, low parental investment, a lot dying early before breeding themselves). the problem is our governments always bail out these countries when they mismanage themselves (which is ALWAYS). this is usually done by UN type orgs like the world bank (guess which countries they get most of their funds from... it aint africa). zimbabwe is a perfect example.
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Originally Posted By Chesssbrah⏩
Over the next century, Africa's population will swell from 1 billion to 4 billion by 2100.Yes, but frankly it's probably for the best in the long term. Human population is thought to follow a logistic function and we're quickly approaching the capacity due to resource constraints.
Richard Stallman has a nice read on this called "Why it is important not to have children"https://stallman.org/articles/children.html
Richard Stallman has a nice read on this called "Why it is important not to have children"https://stallman.org/articles/children.html
The wrong people are stopping breeding and the wrong people are increasing their breeding.
Doesn't really matter if Chad and Audrey aren't having 2.4 kids any more, the planet IS going to be vastly overpopulated.
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Originally Posted By Boerdeur⏩
lol ok.jpegi was kind of being over the top,
so let me rephrase: africa has always kept their population in check because of the way they breed (lots of kids, low parental investment, a lot dying early before breeding themselves). the problem is our governments always bail out these countries when they mismanage themselves (which is ALWAYS). this is usually done by UN type orgs like the world bank (guess which countries they get most of their funds from... it aint africa). zimbabwe is a perfect example.
so let me rephrase: africa has always kept their population in check because of the way they breed (lots of kids, low parental investment, a lot dying early before breeding themselves). the problem is our governments always bail out these countries when they mismanage themselves (which is ALWAYS). this is usually done by UN type orgs like the world bank (guess which countries they get most of their funds from... it aint africa). zimbabwe is a perfect example.
Zimbabwean children have never been on the forefront of any UN initiatives, I would know as I part of my lineage is from there. The reality of the matter is that any initiatives done by the world bank or any type of similar organisation have very minimal impact due to corruption, so at the end of the day, these "wretched Africans and their children" do not eat any of your money and that is the reality of the matter . Now as to who is funneling money out of these programs, and where it really goes is another debate all together.
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05-21-2016, 07:45 AM
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Marriage at 30 or later is a bad idea because you will get old by the time your kids will grow.
Marriage at early 20s to late 20s means you get to spend more time with your kids at young age.
I am on my 20s and both my mum is early 40s and my dad in his late 40s. Grew up while they were young.
Marriage at early 20s to late 20s means you get to spend more time with your kids at young age.
I am on my 20s and both my mum is early 40s and my dad in his late 40s. Grew up while they were young.
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Originally Posted By iLust⏩
What age are you exactly ? From what i see most girls my age try to lock you up by having your babies,or introduce the baby in conversations out of the blue,ewwwMarriage at 30 or later is a bad idea because you will get old by the time your kids will grow.
Marriage at early 20s to late 20s means you get to spend more time with your kids at young age.
I am on my 20s and both my mum is early 40s and my dad in his late 40s. Grew up while they were young.
Marriage at early 20s to late 20s means you get to spend more time with your kids at young age.
I am on my 20s and both my mum is early 40s and my dad in his late 40s. Grew up while they were young.
05-21-2016, 07:51 AM
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I just can't see society moving forward on this same path anymore
We're hitting the limit if we haven't already on resources and being able to support what we have
Massive amounts of families are surviving on food stamps and public housing, and they keep putting out kids because they have nothing slowing them down since their needs are all taken care of ( aka your fuking taxes paying for that sh*t )
Everything else has been addressed and been beat to death, your average female is disgusting in this day age. Arrogant, ignorant, intolerant, bossy, man of the house, self-entitled, zero accountability, liar... hell this could go on and on
We're hitting the limit if we haven't already on resources and being able to support what we have
Massive amounts of families are surviving on food stamps and public housing, and they keep putting out kids because they have nothing slowing them down since their needs are all taken care of ( aka your fuking taxes paying for that sh*t )
Everything else has been addressed and been beat to death, your average female is disgusting in this day age. Arrogant, ignorant, intolerant, bossy, man of the house, self-entitled, zero accountability, liar... hell this could go on and on
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bring the first. The coins thou leavest within it will bring the latter."
05-21-2016, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted By moldoo⏩
22.What age are you exactly ? From what i see most girls my age try to lock you up by having your babies,or introduce the baby in conversations out of the blue,ewww
Also, don't compare these new generation girls to the old generation/generation x girls. Big difference.
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