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Thread: Just watched doco on Hiroshima, God dam Americans.

post 1444036571 05-25-2016, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
2) Japan was ISIS level religious (Shinto/ god-emperor) extremist at that time. If we didn't nuke them, they'd have fought us to the last woman and child rushing into machine guns with bamboo spears. Japan might not even exist as a country or even a people anymore if we had launched a land invasion. The nukes saved millions of lives.
Sounds like a pretty good argument to nuke the ISIS.
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Originally Posted By SirDerpington⏩
While they never leafleted Hiroshima directly prior to the attack how can you really misinterpret "the inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland" unless you surrender thing. Also when you said Germany wasn't close to winning the war, they would have if they weren't so overly ambitious. Britain hung on by an absolute thread and would have fallen if that was their sole focus. I guess all of western Europe just wasn't enough.
No one had ever seen a weapon like that before, so I understand them not thinking much about the threats.

Nope. I don't understand why people always use hypotheticals. Germany WAS overly ambitious because of Hitler and that's that. There is no what if or what have you. Germany had amazing generals but Hitler thought he was the german god or some **** and overruled so many decisions. Germany could have completely decimated Britain, yeah, but then they still had to deal with many other countries. Russia was a BIG deal.
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post 1444036611 05-25-2016, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted By 5htp⏩
Lots of people who were beaten, abused and raped as children learned how to triumph over adversity and became successful in life. So let's abuse the chit out of our kids to build their character ayyy lmao.

There's honestly no bigger cope on this earth than how people try to rationalise these nukes. If one innocent American is killed by ISIS there's people literally crying on TV and demanding revenge. But 200,000 innocent Japanese murdered and decades of birth defects and radiation poisoning and it's all, "well their nation became economically successful afterwards so maybe these nukes were just the leg-up they needed!"
How many did japan kill? I'll wait for your answer. Actually I won't come back and check. Revisionist history strikes again. I bet you would have creamed your pants reading about them bombing our west coast if they had won, though.
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No different than Allies firebombing or even just dropping regular ordinance on European cities.

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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
How many did japan kill? I'll wait for your answer. Actually I won't come back and check. Revisionist history strikes again. I bet you would have creamed your pants reading about them bombing our west coast if they had won, though.
My point is the pathetic cope rationalisation that you *******s engage in ffs. It's like you're literally incapable of ever admitting that America did any evil during history. Just because other countries committed mass murder as well doesn't make your mass murder any better.
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Originally Posted By Gringo12⏩
You Americans are savage. 140,000 people killed instantly in Hiroshima and another 80,000 in Nagasaki.

Use probably set modern day science back 200 years. We could all have flying cars by now if this didn't happen.
It never happened. It was shot in studio.
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Fuk the Japanese.

Shouldn't have started chit then should they?
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Originally Posted By 5htp⏩
My point is the pathetic cope rationalisation that you *******s engage in ffs. It's like you're literally incapable of ever admitting that America did any evil during history. Just because other countries committed mass murder as well doesn't make your mass murder any better.
America is one of the more morally ****ed countries on the planet when it comes to evil deeds, but we were pretty good during WWII.
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Originally Posted By 5htp⏩
My point is the pathetic cope rationalisation that you *******s engage in ffs. It's like you're literally incapable of ever admitting that America did any evil during history. Just because other countries committed mass murder as well doesn't make your mass murder any better.
that's war


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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
America is one of the more morally ****ed countries on the planet when it comes to evil deeds, but we were pretty good during WWII.
Originally Posted By shortythree⏩
that's war

Refreshing to see comments like this from yankbrahs srs. Only rustles me when people try to spin chit in full ++positive crew++ mode and claim bombs are only dropped out of the goodness of Murica's heart to save lives and spread freedom etc.
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i went to the museum in hiroshima and it definitely had an undertone of "americans are evil for doing this". the older folks there still hold grudges.
post 1444044481 05-25-2016, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
1) We'd all be dead if that didn't happen. Hiroshima and Nagasaki gave the world a chance to see how destructive nuclear weapons are while we still only had a few of them and while they were still at their least powerful. It put MAD (mutually assured destruction) into place. If we hadn't seen that, the first use of nuclear weapons would have been when both sides of the cold war had hundreds or thousands of bombs each hundreds of times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb.

2) Japan was ISIS level religious (Shinto/ god-emperor) extremist at that time. If we didn't nuke them, they'd have fought us to the last woman and child rushing into machine guns with bamboo spears. Japan might not even exist as a country or even a people anymore if we had launched a land invasion. The nukes saved millions of lives.

3) It was WW II. WW II was the apocalypse, the end of the world, happening in real-time for the people at that time. That meant that everyone did whatever they could to survive less they perish. Morals went out the window. The first person with morals was the first person that Darwinism selected against and quickly eliminated from existence. For a period of 8 years, we were thrown out of our cozy first world utopias and cast back into nature.
dont try to justify americas barbaric actions you ****ing savage

the japanese did some sick chit, but so many innocent people in one fell swoop... ****.
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Originally Posted By CrookedDink⏩
i went to the museum in hiroshima and it definitely had an undertone of "americans are evil for doing this". the older folks there still hold grudges.
mate go to the museum in ho chi minh, 10x worse. people still being born with deformed kids unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By 5htp⏩
Refreshing to see comments like this from yankbrahs srs. Only rustles me when people try to spin chit in full ++positive crew++ mode and claim bombs are only dropped out of the goodness of Murica's heart to save lives and spread freedom etc.
Let's ignore the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender. It's 99% on them. America did what it had to do to end ****.
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Back when America had balls and didnt take absolutely zero **** from anyone.




Now look at us.
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Originally Posted By GJLuke⏩
The fact that Nagasaki was only 3 days after Hiroshima is terrible.

America should have given them at least 14 days to surrender...

3 days and they're obviously still in a state of shock and confusion.

3 days and BOOM... very very fuked up
Both cities were warned way ahead of time. You know that right? We dropped pamphlets in both cities telling citizens to gtfo.
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Originally Posted By GJLuke⏩
The fact that Nagasaki was only 3 days after Hiroshima is terrible.

America should have given them at least 14 days to surrender...

3 days and they're obviously still in a state of shock and confusion.

3 days and BOOM... very very fuked up
They should've surrendered on July 26. It's all on them.
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Originally Posted By gerbilz⏩
How come America is never considered the bad guy in any war situation - no hate, just look at history

again wouldn't live anywhere else except maybe the French Rivera
-Killing the natives
-Mexican-American war
-Vietnam
-Iraq (x2)

Just a few examples when America is considered the bad guy
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Originally Posted By Gringo12⏩
You Americans are savage. 140,000 people killed instantly in Hiroshima and another 80,000 in Nagasaki.

Use probably set modern day science back 200 years. We could all have flying cars by now if this didn't happen.
I hope you're trolling.

Japan raped Asia and set the entire continent back a century. They were as disgusting as Hitler's Nazi Germany, and maybe less diplomatic. Australia and New Zealand would have been Japanese imperial trophies if they had gotten their way.

Japan had the opportunity to give up. They chose to wield the figurative tanto and force seppuku for their people, and the U.S. became an unwilling kaishakunin.

You're ****ing welcome. We crippled a rapist in the act, the blood of their innocent is solely on their hands.
Originally Posted By WSG1⏩
Back when America had balls and didnt take absolutely zero **** from anyone.

Now look at us.
We cared about the lives of our own and our allies above all else. We let other nations suffer the consequences of their own actions.
Originally Posted By Zinjetsu⏩
dont try to justify americas barbaric actions you ****ing savage

the japanese did some sick chit, but so many innocent people in one fell swoop... ****.
"Some sick chit"???

They raped an entire continent. They murdered somewhere between a 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 Chinese during the occupation. They willingly sacrificed those in the target cities rather than admitting defeat. They wanted to kill as many allies as possible until they were forced into defeat -- they foundhonorin the deaths of the 'innocent' that were nuked. At least we had the common decency to warn them and give them the opportunity to save lives.

They gave morality no such quarter.
Originally Posted By 5htp⏩
My point is the pathetic cope rationalisation that you *******s engage in ffs. It's like you're literally incapable of ever admitting that America did any evil during history. Just because other countries committed mass murder as well doesn't make your mass murder any better.
It wasn't mass murder. War of the mid-20th century was not the war of today. Berlin and London were obliterated with air force strikes. Civilians were in harms war during the entire war and were also part of the war efforts. There's a reasons probably tens of thousands of Japanese left Hiroshima for the southern theater to kill Americans and natives. It was a legitimate military target. Same for Nagasaki.

Revisionist history is infuriating.
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What's with the post-war white guilt brahs? elsewhere in the world people don't even feel the deep remorse over what they've done. What happened in Hiroshima does not even compare to what the ****ing turks did to armenians and pontic greeks, who feels guilty about this? not a turk, but mostly westerners and white people.

My grandfather was a Mongolianbrah that was on the wrong side of the fence and he got conscripted into the chinese army, he still agrees with the decision and even believes that the nukes should have taken out major population centres.
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I'm not at all happy for the loss of life the Japanese suffered, but I think that given their actions and their support of Nazi Germany during WWII the action was very well justified.
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Sadly, by killing all those Japanese people with the Atomic bombs, the Allies saved MILLIONS of lives, because that's what it would have taken to conquer Japan.
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Originally Posted By Gringo12⏩
You Americans are savage. 140,000 people killed instantly in Hiroshima and another 80,000 in Nagasaki.

Use probably set modern day science back 200 years. We could all have flying cars by now if this didn't happen.
Do you realise the Japanese were developing atomic bombs also? They had successfully tested nuclear bombs in Korea.

It was a race against time. The US just beat them to the post and got the first punch in.
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Originally Posted By GJLuke⏩
But still.. America should've waited longer than 3 days to let the first bomb take effect imo....
Lol. People in 2016 criticising our grandfathers actions during the biggest war in history which they won.

It was a cut-throat kill or be killed scenario. I'd cringe to see how our generation would handle a big war.
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Originally Posted By Gringo12⏩
You Americans are savage. 140,000 people killed instantly in Hiroshima and another 80,000 in Nagasaki.

Use probably set modern day science back 200 years. We could all have flying cars by now if this didn't happen.
Yes it was tragic but sadly necessary.
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