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Thread: Thanks Feminism! NY bartenders can't refuse pregnant women alcohol

post 1441324791 05-10-2016, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By BobisMighty⏩
feminism? sound like libertarianism. why deny a consumer access to a product freely available on the market?
It's not libertarian at all. Bartenders shouldn't be forced to give service to people they don't like. This is not stating that bartenders can but rather that they must.

If a business wants to make less money then that's on them. There is no guarantee it will make them more money though as another customer may be disgusted that the bar serves pregnant women and would take his/her business elsewhere. But whether or not to serve should be the bar's decision to make
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No big deal. If they wanted a drink they could do so at home anyway
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First you get culturally enriched then you get fetal alcohol enrichment. The kids will never stand a chance, they won't work in trades or have the glow.
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the regressive left at it again. "Humans rights law", apparently doesn't apply to the rights of a 3rd trimester child, or the moral imperatives that may be held by bartenders.
Originally Posted By brahdude⏩
No big deal. If they wanted a drink they could do so at home anyway
that isn't the point, pregnant woman can drink if THEY chose to. but this is now forcing bar owners/bartenders to SERVE them. entirely different ideas at play.
Originally Posted By Thekittenking⏩
It's not libertarian at all. Bartenders shouldn't be forced to give service to people they don't like. This is not stating that bartenders can but rather that they must.

If a business wants to make less money then that's on them.There is no guarantee it will make them more money though as another customer may be disgusted that the bar serves pregnant women and would take his/her business elsewhere.But whether or not to serve should be the bar's decision to make
exactly. libertarianism is allowing the bartender/owner to chose how they operate the bar. not forcing them to serve everybody any anybody without regard.

what will be amazing, is when people start suing these bars for their kids Fetal Alcohol Syndrome therapy costs.
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Originally Posted By MusicProducer⏩
I can understand a bartender not wanting to serve a pregnant woman another drink when she's absolutely wasted and drunk out of her mind. But it's not the bartender's role to be playing judge.

Unless her baby pops out and starts drunk driving everywhere, it's none of the bartender's concern. Like someone already said, it's a liability issue.
This isn't the military where you have to sacrifice all judgement and personal values and listen to your superiors like a robot. As a free people, we should be allowed to hold morals if we want to: not making cakes for gay people, not serving alcohol to pregnant women, etc. If you're a bartender that feels empathy for the baby, this really sucks. NYC is telling you to go against your morals and personally help harm babies, or find another job.
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People in general are so weird about alcohol. Something with the fact you drink it, instead of smoke, snort, inject makes them think they aren't "doing drugs". Lol at thinking having a glass of wine while pregnant is ok.....your ingesting a psychoactive drug into your system, AND a neurotoxic one at that while pregnant, scumbags of peace.
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
This isn't the military where you have to sacrifice all judgement and personal values and listen to your superiors like a robot. As a free people, we should be allowed to hold morals if we want to: not making cakes for gay people, not serving alcohol to pregnant women, etc. If you're a bartender that feels empathy for the baby, this really sucks. NYC is telling you to go against your morals and personally help harm babies, or find another job.
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post 1441327301 05-10-2016, 12:48 PM
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this coming from the land that almost banned big sodas because they make people fat. just f*ckin' lol
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post 1441327521 05-10-2016, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By rfp⏩
Brb going to NY to slay drunken pregnant women by the dozens.
inb4 pron made specifically for this.
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What is the problem? If a woman wants to drink while preganant and damage her child, she will find a way to do it whether at a bar or not.

You can make decisions for other people, denying a pregnant woman alcohol at a bar means nothing because she can score it elsewhere. It is exactly the same as the 'war on drugs' policy which i'm sure most miscers are against.

This isnt feminism, its free choice.
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Originally Posted By Bear
What is the problem? If a woman wants to drink while preganant and damage her child, she will find a way to do it whether at a bar or not.

You can make decisions for other people, denying a pregnant woman alcohol at a bar means nothing because she can score it elsewhere. It is exactly the same as the 'war on drugs' policy which i'm sure most miscers are against.

This isnt feminism, its free choice.
I am against the war on drugs. But that doesn't mean a pharmacy should have to sell drugs to people without a prescription. I'm for voluntary transactions between consenting adults. Not transactions where one party is forced.
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Originally Posted By Iceman1800⏩
Because that's a liability issue. They get drunk, drive and kill themselves or others. That's not a moral issue.
You think that is a liability issue but not some crazy women who never stopped going to the bar while she was pregnant coming back after birth because her baby is all fuked is not?
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Out of all the ignorant chit I see on the misc, this actually pisses me off.
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Originally Posted By Bear
What is the problem? If a woman wants to drink while preganant and damage her child, she will find a way to do it whether at a bar or not.

You can make decisions for other people, denying a pregnant woman alcohol at a bar means nothing because she can score it elsewhere. It is exactly the same as the 'war on drugs' policy which i'm sure most miscers are against.

This isnt feminism, its free choice.
She can get alcohol elsewhere, but forcing a bartender who would otherwise not have served her to do so is fukked up.

They would literally be supplying the baby with alcohol.
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post 1441330431 05-10-2016, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Thekittenking⏩
I am against the war on drugs. But that doesn't mean a pharmacy should have to sell drugs to people without a prescription. I'm for voluntary transactions between consenting adults. Not transactions where one party is forced.
I agree with you actually, an unborn child is a forced party and it is disgusting.

But this is nature. We can't stop bad parents. Denying a horrible future mother of a drink at a bar will in no way stop a person from harming an innocent child.

The only way to prevent such damage would be to illegalise preganant mothers drinking and make them criminally responsible for their actions. Ultimately however it would be unenforceable.
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how many pregnant women go to bars anyways? They wasted time passing this chit law?
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Originally Posted By Bear
I agree with you actually, an unborn child is a forced party and it is disgusting.

But this is nature. We can't stop bad parents. Denying a horrible future mother of a drink at a bar will in no way stop a person from harming an innocent child.

The only way to prevent such damage would be to illegalise preganant mothers drinking and make them criminally responsible for their actions. Ultimately however it would be unenforceable.
Although the child is also forced I think he was referring to the bartender's being forced to make the sale instead of having the choice
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Seems safe to say we are talking about mothers who do not want to harm their children and are knowingly pregnant, seeing as child abuse is already illegal and this new law allows them to drink with child.

If thats the case, then I can't understand why a mother would choose to take any risk that would damage their newborn. Is it that hard to put down the glass, even though you already made a huge commitment to have a child? good lord.

Also who was a businesses right to refuse service? Not sure how much benefit there is in stopping citizens from discriminating against drunken pregnant women.. lol
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Although the child is also forced I think he was referring to the bartender's being forced to make the sale instead of having the choice
Oh I see, yes that is a completely different scenario. If it is against ones morals to supply an abhorent mother with liquor to destroy an unborn child then I can see the arguement.

Apologies to Thekittenking, I can completely see your arguement and I agree. To be persecuted for doing what is right is clearly wrong.
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Originally Posted By Bear
What is the problem? If a woman wants to drink while preganant and damage her child, she will find a way to do it whether at a bar or not.

You can make decisions for other people, denying a pregnant woman alcohol at a bar means nothing because she can score it elsewhere. It is exactly the same as the 'war on drugs' policy which i'm sure most miscers are against.

This isnt feminism, its free choice.
You're absolutely right

She should also be locked up because this IS child abuse.
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Originally Posted By Bear
I agree with you actually, an unborn child is a forced party and it is disgusting.

But this is nature. We can't stop bad parents. Denying a horrible future mother of a drink at a bar will in no way stop a person from harming an innocent child.

The only way to prevent such damage would be to illegalise preganant mothers drinking and make them criminally responsible for their actions. Ultimately however it would be unenforceable.
you can't stop bad parents and a person from harming an innocent child but you can not force someone to be complicit in the act.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
you can't stop bad parents and a person from harming an innocent child but you can not force someone to be complicit in the act.
Yes, I see the arguement now and understand the frustration.

I was (perhaps incorrectly) looking at it from the point of view of denying another human being something they want to do, not considering that of the party whom is legally forced into providing something which they know is harming an innocent and unborn child.
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The rest of NY hates NYC. This is because:

1. NYC is potatoe.

2. More people in NYC than the rest of NY so when it comes to voting, they decide for the whole state.
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Originally Posted By oldskooler⏩
The rest of NY hates NYC. This is because:

1. NYC is potatoe.

2. More people in NYC than the rest of NY so when it comes to voting, they decide for the whole state.
Funny how the rest of NY hates NYC even though the NY Metro area is what keeps the state afloat economically. Upstate and Western NY are rundown and poverty for the most part. This state would be in the toilet without NYC.
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'I looked forward to my Friday night margarita during each of my pregnancies, and I think they contributed to a happier, healthier pregnancy for both mom and baby'

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Fetal alcohol syndrome is just a social construct imposed upon womyn by the patriarchy you disgusting hetero-normative white male cis-scum. I for one welcome bleep9's gender neutral IQ-impaired child.
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Originally Posted By BobisMighty⏩
feminism? sound like libertarianism. why deny a consumer access to a product freely available on the market?
Because private business.
They don't want you to win.

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Originally Posted By Bear
I agree with you actually, an unborn child is a forced party and it is disgusting.

But this is nature. We can't stop bad parents. Denying a horrible future mother of a drink at a bar will in no way stop a person from harming an innocent child.

The only way to prevent such damage would be to illegalise preganant mothers drinking and make them criminally responsible for their actions. Ultimately however it would be unenforceable.
But it would stop you, the bartender, from harming the child.

We don't allow American arms manufacturers to sell weapons to genocidal war criminals even though we know they're still going to get guns from someone else. How is this any different?
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