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Thread: Cop shoots and kills women charging at him with a meat cleaver

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
been to a lot of police training have you? No? didnt think so...shut up. The problem in the US is white knighting criminals....
I'm not glorifying criminals. I'm saying that the police here are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. My family are police, buckaroo. Nice try though, boyo.
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Originally Posted By holtmcg⏩
I'm not glorifying criminals. I'm saying that the police here are trained to shoot first and ask questions later. My family are police, buckaroo. Nice try though, boyo.
actually there is around 40-100 hours of shoot dont shoot scenario and training plus a mandated 16 hour refresher every 2 years..... So no
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
actually there is around 40-100 hours of shoot dont shoot scenario and training plus a mandated 16 hour refresher every 2 years..... So no
It's quite obviously ignore that "training" (very, very serious).
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
She stopped, and he continued to fire until she was on the ground.
No, the video clearly shows she is moving towards the cop until she drops to her knees.

Like I said, get your eyes checked.
Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
I don't stop dead in my tracks either when I run at something.. it takes awhile to stop momentum.
Exactly, that's why you don't shoot once and stop, you shoot until the threat is gone.

And ideally, get off the line of attack.

Oh, and I like how you claim she was both slower than a sloth, yet also running at him so fast her momentum was carrying her forward. Really trying to have it both ways.
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Originally Posted By holtmcg⏩
It's quite obviously ignore that "training" (very, very serious).
sigh

your police family has probably disowned you...very,very srs
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem⏩
No, the video clearly shows she is moving towards the cop until she drops to her knees.

Like I said, get your eyes checked.
Put it down! Put it down! -shot- Put it down! -shot-, -shot- *woman starts to slow and hold her stomach, cop steps to the side*, -shot-, Put it down! *woman pretty much stops moving, barely walking any faster than she was running, -shot-, *woman falls*.

He was no longer in danger the second the third shot was fired off. If you think he couldn't have just kept moving away from her at her old age with a bullet inside of her (plus woman), then whatever.

He was right to shoot her, was wrong to shoot her dead. I stand by that.
Originally Posted By Kiknskreem⏩
And ideally, get off the line of attack.
Weird, it's like we're saying the same thing only my mouth doesn't have the cops nuts in it.

He could have shot her and moved away. He wasn't being chased by Reggie Bush; He was being chased by Ling-Ling from the corner store. Again, apparently circumstances don't matter and all killing by cop is justified in the minds of people, as if taking extra steps to avoid killing someone intentionally is a 'cuck, liberal, ludicrous' idea.
Originally Posted By Kiknskreem⏩
Oh, and I like how you claim she was both slower than a sloth, yet also running at him so fast her momentum was carrying her forward. Really trying to have it both ways.
Even if you run slow you can't just 'stop'. Strong grasping at straws at this point.
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He should have shot the cleaver out of her hand. I expect the viet community to riot and loot for months as a result of this injustice.
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how come there was no blood? No creeper, but dont guns usually cause bleeding
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
sigh

your police family has probably disowned you...very,very srs
Actually, we're going over there for bbq tonight. I don't know why you'd assume they disowned me. That was a very, and I meanVERYstupid assumption. I expected better from you. *Shakes head*
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
Weird, it's like we're saying the same thing only my mouth doesn't have the cops nuts in it.
No, its like you've never had any training or personal experience and don't understand the difference between watching a video after the fact when you're in no danger analyzing it frame by frame vs being confronted with an armed person IRL.
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem⏩
No, its like you've never had any training or personal experience and don't understand the difference between watching a video after the fact when you're in no danger analyzing it frame by frame vs being confronted with an armed person IRL.
Which is where the training is supposed to kick in.

Great.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
Which is where the training is supposed to kick in.

Great.
you mean the training that saved innocent people from a crazy meat cleaver welding criminal...yes that training
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
Which is where the training is supposed to kick in.

Great.
He didn't do bad, not perfect, but certainly morally and legally justifiable.

Again, you have no background in this, no training, you know nothing about which you speak.
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Originally Posted By holtmcg⏩
Actually, we're going over there for bbq tonight. I don't know why you'd assume they disowned me. That was a very, and I meanVERYstupid assumption. I expected better from you. *Shakes head*
maybe they can educate you then ask them about shoot first ask questions later
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So... A mentally ill old lady with a meat cleaver is out and about... Passing at least one bystander without harming him/her.
The police is called, they approach the lady and shoot her dead.

Fukken lmao if you don't think her life could easily have been spared.
It seems like those who think it was handled correctly, think so because they believe that the life of a supposed criminal is worth nothing and nothing should been done to spare their life. Which is a fair but completely irrelevant point.
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Originally Posted By iTunesBrah⏩
was this really necessary, she's moving at a snails pace, surely the situation could have been prevented without gunshots and someone dying.
Its hard to see what pace she was moving at before being shot.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
maybe they can educate you then ask them about shoot first ask questions later
They've already stated they're trained to shoot first and ask questions later. They're pretty open about their occupation.
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Originally Posted By Brosnbroccoli⏩
So... A mentally ill old lady with a meat cleaver is out and about... Passing at least one bystander without harming him/her.
The police is called, they approach the lady and shoot her dead.

Fukken lmao if you don't think her life could easily have been spared.
It seems like those who think it was handled correctly, think so because they believe that the life of a supposed criminal is worth nothing and nothing should been done to spare their life. Which is a fair but completely irrelevant point.
The relevant point is that she advanced on an officer with a knife so he defended himself.

While it is unfortunate when mentally ill people die as a result of their mental illness, the officer has every right to defend himself.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
A few things;

Why is someone who can't speak English living in this country?

Why is that someone chasing people with a meat cleaver?

The cop did the right thing, she won't be chasing anyone else with a meat cleaver ever again, if only this could happen to every violent criminal in this country.

I love the keyboard warriors here talking about how they could have disarmed her and all this, as if life is a game. BRB pressing O to dodge the attack. BRB losing the use of your arm IRL because some old woman went at you with a meat cleaver and you were stupid enough to try and disarm her.
I find it extremely amusing all the pro-cop people fail to explain or try and defend him for shooting the old woman with an innocent bystanderdirectlybehind her. He didn't strafe to either side to make the shot completely out of there way, hell he didn't do anything besides scream and then proceed to unload his clip in her. Continue ignoring that fact brahs.
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Originally Posted By iTunesBrah⏩
lmao as if the cop was in any immediate danger, he could probably outwalk the old women.
if the cop was overweight/obese like this, then i doubt he could outrun the woman

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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
I find it extremely amusing all the pro-cop people fail to explain or try and defend him for shooting the old woman with an innocent bystanderdirectlybehind her. He didn't strafe to either side to make the shot completely out of there way, hell he didn't do anything besides scream and then proceed to unload his clip in her. Continue ignoring that fact brahs.
Moving laterally to put his shots further away from the bystander would have been best, sure.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
you mean the training that saved innocent people from a crazy meat cleaver welding criminal...yes that training
No, the threat assessment training where someone is meant to be able to discern little asian woman and 6' 10" brute, applying the necessary amount of force to stop a threat.

Keep calling her a criminal if it makes you feel better that some old lady with mental instabilities was shot dead, doesn't change the fact that someone with mental instabilities was shot dead when she didn't need to be, and doesn't change the fact that you're a putz with absolutely 0 understanding of mental illness.
Originally Posted By Kiknskreem⏩
He didn't do bad, not perfect, but certainly morally and legally justifiable.

Again, you have no background in this, no training, you know nothing about which you speak.
He didn't do good, either. He had plenty of other option and opportunity to handle the situation differently, and he didn't take it. Call it tunnel vision, call it fight/flight response, he's supposed ot be trained to handle stressful and life threatening situations with a stoic nature.

I'm not calling for this guy's head, but people ITT thinking that he's robocop are delusional, and acting as if he didn't make a mistake is nothing short of nut hugging.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
maybe they can educate you then ask them about shoot first ask questions later
if you shoot first, how do you ask later if she is dead? lol. your post doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
He didn't do good, either. He had plenty of other option and opportunity to handle the situation differently, and he didn't take it. Call it tunnel vision, call it fight/flight response, he's supposed ot be trained to handle stressful and life threatening situations with a stoic nature.

I'm not calling for this guy's head, but people ITT thinking that he's robocop are delusional, and acting as if he didn't make a mistake is nothing short of nut hugging.
Made a mistake for shooting someone actively advancing on him with a knife at close range.... ok guy.
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Originally Posted By Highwind7⏩
m8, everyone who's ever used a gun knows cop/soldiers/whatever are trained to shoot at the center of the mass (torso), unless you're a pro you can't really aim at limbs and expect it to hit everytime. however slowly that person apporaches you.

5 shots....mmmyeaaah 2-3 more shots more than I would've fired in his situation. adrenaline works wonders I guess.

though I would've fired a warning shot at first but you can't really haggle with someone who decides to come at you with a cleaver knowing full well they'd get filled with lead.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
I find it extremely amusing all the pro-cop people fail to explain or try and defend him for shooting the old woman with an innocent bystanderdirectlybehind her. He didn't strafe to either side to make the shot completely out of there way, hell he didn't do anything besides scream and then proceed to unload his clip in her. Continue ignoring that fact brahs.
the other old lady was prolly mentally challenged too considering she didnt gtfo when the officer opened fire. any normal person would've strafed themselves as soon as they saw the cop draw his firearm, but she kept walking like a zombie = retarded

if the bystander had gotten shot would've been pure darwinism, just like her whale friend
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem⏩
Made a mistake for shooting someone actively advancing on him with a knife at close range.... ok guy.
Made a mistake by shooting a woman with someone directly behind her, shooting her multiple times when other opportunities were present, shooting someone dead when wound shots were available (as if he couldn't outrun her).

Simplify everything if that's the only way you can argue, but the point still remains that he made a fuk up that could have killed another person and that didn't have to take someone's life.

I guess I have to bold this:I agree he should have shot her, I disagree that he had no choice but to put her down. We're not talking about Ronnie Coleman charging him, we're talking about an old bint running as fast as we can walk, getting shot, and being shot dead when he could easily have avoided her after the first few shots.

You have *******s in here talking about someone with a mental illness 'playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes' as if she chose to have a chemical imbalance at that particular time. My main problem with this entire story is that she was mentally ill and needed help, and *******s who think aspirin is a conspiracy are remaining ignorant about it. I also think he didn't need to kill her and made a mistake, but what I'm actually angry about are fukheads ITT saying stupid chit like 'Darwinism' about someone going through a spell.
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