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post 1442903651 05-18-2016, 04:27 PM
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post 1442903661 05-18-2016, 04:27 PM
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Mind blown that there are still potatoes in the US giving cops a hard time when they will kill you and then get a paid holiday
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Nothing to see here, it was a good shoot. Whether you agree with the traffic stop or not, it's an arrestable offense to fail to provide identification. Just take your citation and argue your side in court.
post 1442904381 05-18-2016, 04:31 PM
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tons of cops pull chit like that all the time. Kid tried to do the cop a favor like other people did by telling him his lights are too bright and they pull you over after they already know why they got flashed? Gtfo.

Take the car to the shop and get the chit in regulation. You cant just drive around with blinding lights so bright people gotta flash you and then pull them over lmao.
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post 1442904491 05-18-2016, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17
Mind blown that there are still potatoes in the US giving cops a hard time when they will kill you and then get a paid holiday
This,

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post 1442904751 05-18-2016, 04:34 PM
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in b4 one less thug
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
The kid's repeated refusal was a valid cause for an arrest. He did not cooperate with the arrest. Using some degree of non-lethal force to remove him from the car and arrest him was justified. I have no idea if that department and the state of Michigan sanction the use of a taser - as opposed to other non-lethal force - there, but I'm assuming they do.

The kid was just pissed. The officer was, as you say, a tyrant on a power trip to inflate his own ego. That doesn't mean it was illegal.

The last thing a smart person wants to do is give a tyrant on a power trip any excuse to do something terrible that they are legally permitted to do. They will do it. The kid was being a clueless teenager and did not analyze the situation well. At one point, he screams "you can't do that". Well, he can and he did. Too late now.
Both parties were breaking the law by flashing their high beams within 500 feet of one another. Obviously, the kid was pissed for good reason. Despite what popular media and terrified citizens would have you believe, police officers are also supposed to be subject to the very laws they enforce. How hypocritical of him to cite the driver for breaking the very same law that he was also violating. Just like many members of law enforcement, this creep considers himself superior to lowly citizens. Being stupid is not a justifiable excuse to kill somebody. Again, he should've provided his I.D. upon the officer's request, but the stop itself was for no other reason to satisfy the cop's massive ego.
Originally Posted By Nelly87
Correct - he does have a right to defend himself. However, the kid was pulled over for violating 257.700 Michigan Code.

When asked to show ID since he broke the law again and is being investigated, he refused. He is resisting arrest and not obeying a lawful order, violation of 257.602.

Now, the cop shouldn't have let it get out of control like this. But the kid clearly initiated the aggression and escalated the situation.

I get tired of people filming themselves breaking the law and expecting everyone to back them. Sure there are times cops are bad and do things wrong, which is why there have been many internal investigations, cops sent to jail, fined, kicked off the force.

The judicial system is not perfect, it doesn't get the bad guy 100% of the time. But it's better than nothing.

Bottom line, sure maybe the cop shouldn't have pulled him over for it if he had is own brights on. Maybe the kid should have just given him his ID and gone on his way. But it didn't.
"Oh, the judicial system isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing." A piece of crap is still a piece of crap no matter what color it is. The American judicial system is the cause of thousands of unnecessary deaths per year, and it is largely the result of unjust laws and cops who have zero accountability for their own actions. It is very rare for a law breaking officer to suffer the consequences of his own actions due in large part to the "blue shield." Despite these "investigations" police officers more often than not get off scot free for their poor behavior. The entire situation could have been prevented by both parties, but it was originally instigated by the officer who just couldn't bear the thought of a lowly pedestrian pumping up on him with those heinous high beams. Don't blame the driver for becoming aggressive after being threatened by an authoritarian psychopath. It natural human behavior to become defensive when confronted by something more powerful than itself. Especially for a teenager. Police officers should be held to a higher standard considering the amount of legal power they possess.
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post 1442905811 05-18-2016, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By zakatak333
in b4 one less thug
the kid didn't seem like a thug lol.. Really stupid but not a thug.

Any time you physically attack a police officer attempting to arrest you, you should expect to get dead.
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post 1442906131 05-18-2016, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By gentilhomme
It is absurd that we live in a society where someone can legally shoot someone else that is "attacking" them with nothing but their fists...especially when they have pepper spray, tasers and batons etc.

That being said, I must have been raised in a different time and environment than kids today because I was always taught to do what the cops say or its your ass. With all of these incidents occurring you'd think that kids would know that these cops mean fukkin business but apparently not. Darwin wins again.
Yeah that's pretty much how i feel about it.

I realize the criminal justice system and law enforcement in America is out of whack but at the same time i realize that mouthing off or "bucking the system" isn't going to change anything and its certainly not going to help me.

In the event of getting pulled over or whatever, I just go along with whatever B.S. the police tell me to do. I figure that's the best chances for the situation ending peacefully and to minimize my court fees or points on license.



To further analyze what happened. The kid probably thought that cops had to answer for their mistakes and follow procedures and chit so he didn't see himself in danger. Meanwhile the cop was trained to shoot anything that he "feels" threatened by and pretty much has impunity from being prosecuted.
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Skeptical of that skinny ******* inflicting this kind of damage on the cop. Wouldn't be surprised if he pounded himself in the face a few times after the kid was dead. Looks like he's making the "I'm the victim here" expression for the camera too.

Not anti-cop, but they're known to try to make things looks worse to justify their actions. Stupid as fuk of the kid to attack him, but who knows how you'd react getting tazed on the ground for pretty much nothing. Animal instinct could take over.
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post 1442906531 05-18-2016, 04:46 PM
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I'm wondering how the phuck the kid managed to fight back the cop and actually dish out that kind of damage after being phucking tazered at 17 years old
post 1442906591 05-18-2016, 04:47 PM
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even if you are borderline retarded you should know better not to **** with cops in US, especially in US
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post 1442907381 05-18-2016, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By TR88
even if you are borderline retarded you should know better not to **** with cops in US, especially in US
This. If your smart enough to drive a car you should be smart enough to know not to uck with cops.

Play stupid games...
post 1442907431 05-18-2016, 04:52 PM
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Any person who would physically assault a police officer after not initially cooperating is probably someone who has a high propensity to behave violently elsewhere
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cop pulled kid over for idiotic reason

kid made situation worse

cop escalated physically, then got escalated by the kid

cop shoots kid, kid dies

both parties are morans playing stupid games, unfortunately only one of them won the stupid prize

edit: would bet my next paycheck the cop hit himself several times after the situation was over before backup arrived, the thought of that flailing kid successfully landing multiple hard blows to his face is ridiculous
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The driver could have easily avoided escalating it but the cop was way out of line. Pulling someone over for flashing high beams? Just lol, was this guy 12? Funny how so many people flex alpha and when some 17 year old kid has the balls to question abuse of authority, he deserved it. Pussies.
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No sympathy from me. I got pulled over for the same reason once, showed the cops my papers and he let me go. Cops are human and they will give you the benefit of the doubt for the most part. If the kid showed him his papers he would've been let go with a warning most likely, instead he's dead.
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Good shoot. SRS. Someone with a mentality like that could only cause problems. What is it with these coddled *******s who think they make their own rules?

I disagree with a lot of things police do, but I don't challenge the cop who is doing his job and his job being something I don't think I'd want, I'm not going to make his job harder. I'll do as he asks and then later go to the one's who made the policy and confront them about it.

Bottom line is there are ways to handle things, and ways not to handle things.
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I'll post the same thing I did last time this video was posted.


If that cop was pulling over people all ****ing night because people are flashing him cause they think he has high beams then he's a ****ing idiot. If so many people felt the need to do it..... Guess what... Maybe your lights might be too ****in bright. Lol at being so petty you need to pull someone over just to tell them it's anew squad car or whatever his ****in excuse is. There should never have been any traffic stop in the first place. That's the cops fault. Grow up. What a waste of payroll and tax payers money for a cop to be pulling over people for absolutely petty things like that.

The kid obviously was an idiot but this interaction should have never taken place at all... Let alone led to him being shot.

Also don't believe the kid managed to do that to him.


End of the day both parties were wrong but the cop is always going to be more in the wrong. No need to shoot some teenager esp when you pulled him over for some bullchit you know you are in the wrong for.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
Bottom line is there are ways to handle things, and ways not to handle things.
If you think that was the right way to handle things on the cop's end, congratulations

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Originally Posted By jackflag
Skeptical of that skinny ******* inflicting this kind of damage on the cop. Wouldn't be surprised if he pounded himself in the face a few times after the kid was dead. Looks like he's making the "I'm the victim here" expression for the camera too.

Not anti-cop, but they're known to try to make things looks worse to justify their actions. Stupid as fuk of the kid to attack him, but who knows how you'd react getting tazed on the ground for pretty much nothing. Animal instinct could take over.
There are cops who know that alot of the police shootings are B.S. and have a genuine hope in their hearts to never use their gun.

Like they legitimately dislike the whole "blue wall of silence" thing and they don't like corruption and chit.

But there's nothing they can do about it.

When a cop kills a civilian, regardless of the details, he's 99% chance not doing any time. One cop even got a million dollars worth of donations for it.

I swear to God, they need like a screening process or something to keep all the sociopaths off the police force.

Its just sooooooo not normal and not right the way policing works in America.


EDIT: just watched the video... the kid came off as whiny but that's no reason to shoot somebody Jesus Christ

sadly they'll probably use this video in police academy to say "the officer did the right thing derp derp derp you are god and its okay to kill useless humans derp derp your life is more important than theirs derp"
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
You have the right to use proportional force. If Joe Average shoots a 17 year old kid during a fist fight he's going to jail unless there's a huge disparity in size. End of story.
Probably depends on the state. If George Zimmerman was found not guilty I'll assume that's not the law in Florida.
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I have been pulled over at least 20 times in my life for the most retarded, ****ed up reasons possible srs. All I do is show them my ID, keep my mouth shut and I got off with a warning EVERY SINGLE TIME. (dead srs)

If you create a problem, there will be a problem. I have no sympathy for retards who fail to keep their cool or try and act all entitled asking for badge numbers and ****.
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Americans are not self-determined. The government is their leader. They follow its instructions or get pew pew pew'd.
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Originally Posted By USWarrior6969
Cliffs:
-cop pulls over teen for "flashing his high-beams" at the cop
-teen says he did it because he was blinded by the cop's high-beams, couldn't see
-cop says he had to pull over several people that night for doing the same thing to him
Loooooooooooool. Reminds me of when I got pulled over and then searched for drugs because I swerved. The cop car was on the side of the road with half his wheel into the driving lane to force people to swerve or hit him.

If they hit him, he gets an arrest and wins. If they don't, he gets to pull them over and potentially find a DUI or drug offender and arrest them. If not, they get a random traffic ticket. No matter what, he 'wins'.

This is why people have no respect for police.
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