05-20-2016, 08:48 AM
-
#91
05-20-2016, 08:50 AM
-
#92
Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
Yet another person who doesn't understand America already pays for that "free" healthcare for othersYet another person that doesn't know what the word FREE is.
Hey OP I have an Idea I'll tax you at 100% and then give you some of your money back and call the gift I give you "FREE" money deal? How could you turn down free money?
Hey OP I have an Idea I'll tax you at 100% and then give you some of your money back and call the gift I give you "FREE" money deal? How could you turn down free money?

05-20-2016, 08:51 AM
-
#93
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
-
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
- Posts: 34,072
- Rep Power: 206818
-
-
Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Great, you're demonstrably wrong too.I agree with bustacapp
free is subjective, if I dont pay for something it's free. If somebody hands me a samwhich, I'm going to say I got a free samwhich. even though obviously somewhere along the way it cost something to produce/buy
free is subjective, if I dont pay for something it's free. If somebody hands me a samwhich, I'm going to say I got a free samwhich. even though obviously somewhere along the way it cost something to produce/buy
Let's look at it logically:
If you point a gun at me, and steal my money, you'd agree that's theft right?
Now, take that gun, hand it to someone else. Let's call that person "The Government". Now, tell them to point the gun at me, steal my money, and then give that money to you.
How is the 2nd option not theft, but the 1st one is? Using a proxy to steal is still theft.
Now that we've established taxation is theft, any services provided through the use of that taxation are the byproduct of that theft. If you feel justified in receiving stolen property, and can somehow do the mental gymnastics to make yourself believe that what you received was "free", then quite frankly you are lost.
"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
-Hercules
Starting Weight (July 2018) - 362
Current Weight (July 2019) - 268
05-20-2016, 08:52 AM
-
#94
05-20-2016, 08:55 AM
-
#95
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
-
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
- Posts: 34,072
- Rep Power: 206818
-
-
Originally Posted By Starred⏩
6'3 214lbs is fat now, manlet?Everyone uses it at some point
Especially your fat ass hahahaha
Especially your fat ass hahahaha
"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
-Hercules
Starting Weight (July 2018) - 362
Current Weight (July 2019) - 268
05-20-2016, 09:02 AM
-
#96
- Eterniity
- Fornever bulking.
-
- Eterniity
- Fornever bulking.
- Join Date: Sep 2012
- Posts: 6,247
- Rep Power: 19870
-
-
Originally Posted By ProjectWheyhem⏩
Can you actually STFU YOU PIECE OF ****. Don't call the NHS is a joke, do all citizens in the US get free healthcare after being diagnosed with cancer? Can they go to their GP to discuss depression for free? Can they go to the A&E after cutting themselves without having to worry about paying for an ambulance? NO. SO STFU ABOUT OUR HEALTHCARE BEING A JOKE.The NHS won't exist in 10 years.
Healthcare isn't free in the UK. It is only free for those who do not contribute.
Why would you support a system where the productive pay for the healthcare of the unproductive?
America's healthcare is a joke, but that doesn't mean our isn't.
Britain has collectively decided to lay down and rot and destroy the NHS out of fear of being called racist and mass Marxist brainwashing.
Healthcare isn't free in the UK. It is only free for those who do not contribute.
Why would you support a system where the productive pay for the healthcare of the unproductive?
America's healthcare is a joke, but that doesn't mean our isn't.
Britain has collectively decided to lay down and rot and destroy the NHS out of fear of being called racist and mass Marxist brainwashing.
fictional account.
closer to the lung.
05-20-2016, 09:05 AM
-
#97
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
-
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
- Posts: 34,072
- Rep Power: 206818
-
-
Originally Posted By Eterniity⏩
Your ability to speak English is a joke.Can you actually STFU YOU PIECE OF ****. Don't call the NHS is a joke, do all citizens in the US get free healthcare after being diagnosed with cancer? Can they go to their GP to discuss depression for free? Can they go to the A&E after cutting themselves without having to worry about paying for an ambulance? NO. SO STFU ABOUT OUR HEALTHCARE BEING A JOKE.
"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
-Hercules
Starting Weight (July 2018) - 362
Current Weight (July 2019) - 268
05-20-2016, 09:07 AM
-
#98
- TheAmericano
- because MERICA that's why
-
- TheAmericano
- because MERICA that's why
- Join Date: May 2013
- Location: United States
- Posts: 11,802
- Rep Power: 12087
-
-
lol just LOL @ non-AMericans who are obsess with what's going on in our country when we could give 2 chits about what's going in theirs.
Maybe if you guys stop worry about us and start focusing on your own country, you'll have a decent, worth mentioning homeland!
- Merica

Maybe if you guys stop worry about us and start focusing on your own country, you'll have a decent, worth mentioning homeland!
- Merica
- I'm sorry; I couldn't hear your complaints over the sound of all this freedom!
~ Merica
- Everybody wants to make it, but nobody wants to put in the work!
05-20-2016, 09:08 AM
-
#99
- BeastModeFTW
- Registered User
-
- BeastModeFTW
- Registered User
- Join Date: Sep 2013
- Posts: 21,454
- Rep Power: 2931
-
-
ITT butthurt american cucks.
05-20-2016, 09:13 AM
-
#100
- moldoo
- Registered User
-
- moldoo
- Registered User
- Join Date: Apr 2015
- Location: East Sussex, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 30
- Posts: 923
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By TheAmericano⏩
lol just LOL @ non-AMericans who are obsess with what's going on in our country when we could give 2 chits about what's going in theirs.
Maybe if you guys stop worry about us and start focusing on your own country, you'll have a decent, worth mentioning homeland!
- Merica

Maybe if you guys stop worry about us and start focusing on your own country, you'll have a decent, worth mentioning homeland!
- Merica


05-20-2016, 09:16 AM
-
#101
05-20-2016, 09:16 AM
-
#102
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
-
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Age: 36
- Posts: 18,281
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Here's why it's not theftGreat, you're demonstrably wrong too.
Let's look at it logically:
If you point a gun at me, and steal my money, you'd agree that's theft right?
Now, take that gun, hand it to someone else. Let's call that person "The Government". Now, tell them to point the gun at me, steal my money, and then give that money to you.
How is the 2nd option not theft, but the 1st one is? Using a proxy to steal is still theft.
Now that we've established taxation is theft, any services provided through the use of that taxation are the byproduct of that theft. If you feel justified in receiving stolen property, and can somehow do the mental gymnastics to make yourself believe that what you received was "free", then quite frankly you are lost.
Let's look at it logically:
If you point a gun at me, and steal my money, you'd agree that's theft right?
Now, take that gun, hand it to someone else. Let's call that person "The Government". Now, tell them to point the gun at me, steal my money, and then give that money to you.
How is the 2nd option not theft, but the 1st one is? Using a proxy to steal is still theft.
Now that we've established taxation is theft, any services provided through the use of that taxation are the byproduct of that theft. If you feel justified in receiving stolen property, and can somehow do the mental gymnastics to make yourself believe that what you received was "free", then quite frankly you are lost.
Because you have the option to leave if you don't like it. If you are tired of having to pay for government services, get the fuk out. I am willing pay my share, either stop bi*tching or get out.
It's not theft if you have a choice *******
05-20-2016, 09:18 AM
-
#103
- ProjectWheyhem
- Banned
-
- ProjectWheyhem
- Banned
- Join Date: Dec 2014
- Location: The North, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Posts: 4,868
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By Eterniity⏩
If you had the mental capacity to check my location you would see it tells you I live in the UK.Can you actually STFU YOU PIECE OF ****. Don't call the NHS is a joke, do all citizens in the US get free healthcare after being diagnosed with cancer? Can they go to their GP to discuss depression for free? Can they go to the A&E after cutting themselves without having to worry about paying for an ambulance? NO. SO STFU ABOUT OUR HEALTHCARE BEING A JOKE.
Again it isn't free and the NHS is overburdened, underfunded and on the verge of complete collapse.
Our healthcare is a joke, that doesn't mean America's healthcare isn't but it unfortunately does mean that ours is.
05-20-2016, 09:19 AM
-
#104
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
-
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
- Posts: 34,072
- Rep Power: 206818
-
-
Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
What choice? Go to another country and pay into their tax system instead? You can't get off the farm, sheep. It's a world-wide farm and you can't leave. Just because you claim you're "willing to pay your fair share" (whatever the fuk "fair" means, pretty subjective), doesn't mean you aren't being stolen from.Here's why it's not theft
Because you have the option to leave if you don't like it. If you are tired of having to pay for government services, get the fuk out. I am willing pay my share, either stop bi*tching or get out.
It's not theft if you have a choice *******
Because you have the option to leave if you don't like it. If you are tired of having to pay for government services, get the fuk out. I am willing pay my share, either stop bi*tching or get out.
It's not theft if you have a choice *******
Men with guns are taking your money. Most people with any sense would refer to that as theft.
"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
-Hercules
Starting Weight (July 2018) - 362
Current Weight (July 2019) - 268
05-20-2016, 09:21 AM
-
#105
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
-
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Age: 36
- Posts: 18,281
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Go to greece, they dont pay taxes thereWhat choice? Go to another country and pay into their tax system instead? You can't get off the farm, sheep. It's a world-wide farm and you can't leave. Just because you claim you're "willing to pay your fair share" (whatever the fuk "fair" means, pretty subjective), doesn't mean you aren't being stolen from.
Men with guns are taking your money. Most people with any sense would refer to that as theft.
Men with guns are taking your money. Most people with any sense would refer to that as theft.
This is why Americans are retarded and behind on EVERY SINGLE THING that matters. Europeans are willing to pay in to the system and the governments provide great services. We definitely have excess government waste but the general idea that you need to pay for good services is accepted every where else in the world except dumba$$ USA
05-20-2016, 09:22 AM
-
#106
05-20-2016, 09:27 AM
-
#107
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
-
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
- Posts: 34,072
- Rep Power: 206818
-
-
Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Why don't you move to Europe if it's so great? You can enjoy contending with the 1 million + illegal migrants who are all draining the welfare system dry. BTW, they don't provide "great" service, they provide "mediocre" service at massively inflated prices because everything Government does is a monument to inefficiency.Go to greece, they dont pay taxes there
This is why Americans are retarded and behind on EVERY SINGLE THING that matters. Europeans are willing to pay in to the system and the governments provide great services. We definitely have excess government waste but the general idea that you need to pay for good services is accepted every where else in the world except dumba$$ USA
This is why Americans are retarded and behind on EVERY SINGLE THING that matters. Europeans are willing to pay in to the system and the governments provide great services. We definitely have excess government waste but the general idea that you need to pay for good services is accepted every where else in the world except dumba$$ USA
Also just lol @ Greece not paying taxes? uwot? Greece has massive entitlements and their economy is basically fuked as a result. They're facing austerity or complete collapse.
"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
-Hercules
Starting Weight (July 2018) - 362
Current Weight (July 2019) - 268
05-20-2016, 09:29 AM
-
#108
- ProjectWheyhem
- Banned
-
- ProjectWheyhem
- Banned
- Join Date: Dec 2014
- Location: The North, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Posts: 4,868
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Greece is utterly bankrupt and overrun with debt, joblessness and third world invaders on banana boats.Go to greece, they dont pay taxes there
This is why Americans are retarded and behind on EVERY SINGLE THING that matters. Europeans are willing to pay in to the system and the governments provide great services. We definitely have excess government waste but the general idea that you need to pay for good services is accepted every where else in the world except dumba$$ USA
This is why Americans are retarded and behind on EVERY SINGLE THING that matters. Europeans are willing to pay in to the system and the governments provide great services. We definitely have excess government waste but the general idea that you need to pay for good services is accepted every where else in the world except dumba$$ USA
Strong comparison.
05-20-2016, 09:29 AM
-
#109
- Titansfan08
- Registered User
-
- Titansfan08
- Registered User
- Join Date: Mar 2010
- Location: Missouri, United States
- Age: 36
- Posts: 27,646
- Subscribers: 3
- Rep Power: 443142
-
-
05-20-2016, 09:31 AM
-
#110
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
-
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Age: 36
- Posts: 18,281
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Google it, greeks avoid paying taxes easily with the little consequence and it fuked them in the end.Why don't you move to Europe if it's so great? You can enjoy contending with the 1 million + illegal migrants who are all draining the welfare system dry. BTW, they don't provide "great" service, they provide "mediocre" service at massively inflated prices because everything Government does is a monument to inefficiency.
Also just lol @ Greece not paying taxes? uwot? Greece has massive entitlements and their economy is basically fuked as a result. They're facing austerity or complete collapse.
Also just lol @ Greece not paying taxes? uwot? Greece has massive entitlements and their economy is basically fuked as a result. They're facing austerity or complete collapse.
I dont move because I like the US and am totally fine paying the taxes we have.
Great service is relative. Most places in europe are better than the non existent healthcare system, crumbling infrastructure, s*itty inefficient public services etc of the USA.
05-20-2016, 09:32 AM
-
#111
- moldoo
- Registered User
-
- moldoo
- Registered User
- Join Date: Apr 2015
- Location: East Sussex, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 30
- Posts: 923
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
You guys should have know by now that your country is just a testing ground for europe , ever wondered why euro and the british pound is far more strong than the us dollar ? well now you know.
Average american right here

Average american right here

05-20-2016, 09:32 AM
-
#112
- smoked04
- Shadilay
-
- smoked04
- Shadilay
- Join Date: Dec 2012
- Location: United States
- Posts: 4,975
- Rep Power: 16539
-
-
I lived in the United Kaliphate (was the United kingdom at the time)for a few years and got to see your "great" and "free" healthcare system firsthand, it's fuking terrible and wait times for simple care it's beyond ridiculous.
I'd rather just get a decent REAL job that pays me enough and has a great health plan so I can see specialists, regular pcm, or anything else in a timely manner and know they aren't some subpar fool hustled through a medical education to be thrown in a subpar treatment facility to meet quotas.
Lmao at the uk.
I'd rather just get a decent REAL job that pays me enough and has a great health plan so I can see specialists, regular pcm, or anything else in a timely manner and know they aren't some subpar fool hustled through a medical education to be thrown in a subpar treatment facility to meet quotas.
Lmao at the uk.
🇺🇸
OIF
05-20-2016, 09:32 AM
-
#113
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
-
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Age: 36
- Posts: 18,281
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By ProjectWheyhem⏩
I know retard, thats the kind of society you get when people are free to ignore taxes and dont invest in a solid governmentGreece is utterly bankrupt and overrun with debt, joblessness and third world invaders on banana boats.
Strong comparison.
Strong comparison.
05-20-2016, 09:33 AM
-
#114
- LaCosaNostra90
- Registered User
-
- LaCosaNostra90
- Registered User
- Join Date: Dec 2011
- Location: Alberta, Canada
- Posts: 15,577
- Rep Power: 22156
-
-
Considering the tax rates in UK/Canada vs America it technically is free for us.
America simply spends its money on other things (military, bailing out banks and business) etc
America simply spends its money on other things (military, bailing out banks and business) etc
05-20-2016, 09:33 AM
-
#115
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
-
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Age: 36
- Posts: 18,281
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By smoked04⏩
thats probably better than going bankrupt just because you got sick.I lived in the UK for a few years and got to see your "great" and "free" healthcare system firsthand, it's fuking terrible and wait times for simple care it's beyond ridiculous.
05-20-2016, 09:35 AM
-
#116
- Lightsout13
- Banned
-
- Lightsout13
- Banned
- Join Date: Jun 2012
- Posts: 4,020
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By RhysB1993⏩
United States - 60.45% (based on New York state tax)According to this, US citizens on average have > 60% of their annual salary spent on tax. In the U.K it is 57%. Time to lay down and rot. Better hope no one calls an ambulance for you as you'll have to pay to rot in the ambulance. What a joke.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26327114
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26327114
Derp, one state represents the whole of he US.
05-20-2016, 09:37 AM
-
#117
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
-
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
- Posts: 34,072
- Rep Power: 206818
-
-
Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
They got fuked because they built up massive entitlements (hello welfare and big government spending) and ran out of "other people's money" to pay the debt. That's what Socialism is, and what Socialism does.Google it, greeks avoid paying taxes easily with the little consequence and it fuked them in the end.
I dont move because I like the US and am totally fine paying the taxes we have.
Great service is relative. Most places in europe are better than the non existent healthcare system, crumbling infrastructure, s*itty inefficient public services etc of the USA.
I dont move because I like the US and am totally fine paying the taxes we have.
Great service is relative. Most places in europe are better than the non existent healthcare system, crumbling infrastructure, s*itty inefficient public services etc of the USA.
"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
-Hercules
Starting Weight (July 2018) - 362
Current Weight (July 2019) - 268
05-20-2016, 09:38 AM
-
#118
- freddibnah
- Banned
-
- freddibnah
- Banned
- Join Date: Dec 2013
- Location: Your, Mum, Chad
- Posts: 1,355
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
stupid conts don't even have the infrastructure to operate this:


05-20-2016, 09:39 AM
-
#119
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
-
- jamesbwbevis
- Banned
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Age: 36
- Posts: 18,281
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Well like I said I dont believe in government waste, but LOL if you think services like healthcare is wasteful.They got fuked because they built up massive entitlements (hello welfare and big government spending) and ran out of "other people's money" to pay the debt. That's what Socialism is, and what Socialism does.
and btw, only a small portion of current US budget even goes to welfare and entitlements so you're falling for one of the biggets myths out there. The real behemoth is the military budget, which I'm fine with.
05-20-2016, 09:42 AM
-
#120
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
-
- InstantLoser
- #1 Pimp Korea
- Join Date: Jan 2013
- Location: Louisville, Kentucky, United States
- Posts: 34,072
- Rep Power: 206818
-
-
Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
It's wasteful BECAUSE it's run by the Government. FYI, over half a trillion dollars is spent each year in the US on Welfare. Yes, that's a small portion of the "budget" (we don't even have a budget so more like a small % of overall "spending") but it's still a huge sum of money, and it grows yearly.Well like I said I dont believe in government waste, but LOL if you think services like healthcare is wasteful.
and btw, only a small portion of current US budget even goes to welfare and entitlements so you're falling for one of the biggets myths out there. The real behemoth is the military budget, which I'm fine with.
and btw, only a small portion of current US budget even goes to welfare and entitlements so you're falling for one of the biggets myths out there. The real behemoth is the military budget, which I'm fine with.
"That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
-Hercules
Starting Weight (July 2018) - 362
Current Weight (July 2019) - 268
Bookmarks
-
- Digg
-
- del.icio.us
-

- StumbleUpon
-
-
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts




.jpg)







