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post 1441358431 05-10-2016, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By mommaofobama⏩
A fetus is not a person. A newborn is. Abortion isn't murder because the person doesn't exist yet. Drinking while pregnant runs the risk of giving disabilities to a person who will probably exist. The two have nothing in common.
explain why killing a pregnant sloot gives you 2 counts of murder then?
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Originally Posted By kenb9988⏩
explain why killing a pregnant sloot gives you 2 counts of murder then?
It doesn't give you 2 counts of murder in NY.

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post 1441420221 05-10-2016, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
But it would stop you, the bartender, from harming the child.

We don't allow American arms manufacturers to sell weapons to genocidal war criminals even though we know they're still going to get guns from someone else. How is this any different?
Because a genocidal war criminal will likely kill mass amounts of people. But drinking a drink "might possibly, could potentially," harm 1 baby.
Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
who was medical science?

u w0t m8? that looks like a normal kid.
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post 1441422221 05-10-2016, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted By MusicProducer⏩
Lots of women have messed up babies because they under eat. These women know that they're under eating and know that under eating is bad for the baby. So should society police them?

Hypothetical: A pregnant woman goes to a supermarket each day to buy a head of lettuce. The same cashier works there every day and notices she barely eats and it's really bad for the baby. Should the cashier have the right to refuse ringing her up unless she buys more food?
Somebody police response.
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post 1441422821 05-10-2016, 09:33 PM
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I thought a private business has the right to refuse their business to anyone?
post 1441422981 05-10-2016, 09:34 PM
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u w0t m8? that looks like a normal kid.
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post 1441424001 05-10-2016, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Phobaphobia⏩
I thought a private business has the right to refuse their business to anyone?
No. In every state it's illegal to discriminate based on race (and some other categories too); doesn't matter if it's a private or public business. In some states it's legal to discriminate based on sex, such as charging men higher fees at bars.
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post 1441427141 05-10-2016, 10:03 PM
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counting on bartender brahs to ignore the ruling

good luck to the bishes that try to press charges, go ahead and put yourself out there
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Originally Posted By Phobaphobia⏩
I thought a private business has the right to refuse their business to anyone?
pregnant women are a protected class dead srs
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Originally Posted By MusicProducer⏩
Somebody police response.
Lettuce itself isn't dangerous and the cashier wouldn't know that's all she eats. If someone knew for a fact she wasn't eating enough like for example a medical professional noticing her weight isn't going up then something should absolutely be done about it.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Lettuce itself isn't dangerous and the cashier wouldn't know that's all she eats. If someone knew for a fact she wasn't eating enough like for example a medical professional noticing her weight isn't going up then something should absolutely be done about it.
1, 2 or 3 drinks in one night isn't gonna harm a baby, and a bartender doesn't know how much a pregnant woman drinks.

Seems like your argument is that a woman shouldn't be allowed to do anything that is possibly remotely dangerous to her kid before it's born. Fully disagree with that. I think women should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies until the baby is born and able to live on it's own (but that's a whole different discussion)
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Originally Posted By MusicProducer⏩
1, 2 or 3 drinks in one night isn't gonna harm a baby, and a bartender doesn't know how much a pregnant woman drinks.

Seems like your argument is that a woman shouldn't be allowed to do anything that is possibly remotely dangerous to her kid before it's born. Fully disagree with that. I think women should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies until the baby is born and able to live on it's own (but that's a whole different discussion)
Wed don't know what levels of alcohol are safe, if any, so it should be avoided. I'm not saying that pregnant women can't take any risks, lots of things are risky and sometimes necessary, I'm not going to suggest that pregnant women can't go in cars for example. However drinking is risky and completely unnecessary. If you can't try your best to keep your baby healthy for 9 months I'm not persuaded you're ready tu have a baby.
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What does this have to do with feminism? Can men get pregnant now?

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Originally Posted By BangBrahs⏩
What does this have to do with feminism? Can men get pregnant now?
Probably because "its muh body, muh rights" etc, but they need to get over it and understand that childrens rights are more important.
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This really rustles me. The same idiotic pregnant feminists fighting for their "right" to smoke and drink while pregnant are going to be on social media trying to garner sympathy because "OMG, it's SOOO hard being a mom with a special needs child!!!"

I've LMAO several times at a bar when whales with pronounced beer guts get denied service because the bartender mistakes them as pregnant and they flip out. Maybe this ruling was the result of some whale having this happen to her in NYC?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
She can get alcohol elsewhere, but forcing a bartender who would otherwise not have served her to do so is fukked up.

They would literally be supplying the baby with alcohol.
I couldn't say it better myself.

Bartenders have a responsibility when serving alcohol to patrons who might be dangerously intoxicated or pose a risk to others, and this is undermining that by forcing bartenders to bend their better judgement.

"You're too drunk" is fine, but "You're too pregnant," is somehow crossing a line to any reasonable person? Yeah, her body, her rights, her kid's life, and it wouldn't be a shock if it became everyone else's tax dollars.

But hey, that's regressives for you: don't you justmissthe good ol' days in the 50's when a pregnant broad could smoke any damn time she pleased?Progress!
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Originally Posted By Phobaphobia⏩
I thought a private business has the right to refuse their business to anyone?
The civil rights act of 1964 ended that
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ROFL, is this trollception? Did someone actually compare abortion to this law? LOL. Stay dumb.

Oh and I would never serve alcohol to a pregnant woman no matter that law, and in fact there should be a law to ban breeding for anyone who thinks it's fine. I wish there was a clean way to take away their baby, because it's probably the only chance it has to live a normal life and grow up with sound logic/intelligence. Law-makers are basically criminal in these liberal states, give me 1 year of leadership you watch the biggest exodus of trash the world has ever seen. Giving birth should be a privilege that is earned, there are too many potatoes in this world.

I'd have a form everyone would fill out. One of the questions would be: "Would you drink alcohol if you were pregnant?" "Would you give alchohol to a pregnant woman?" If they X yes then they hop on a special boat to an island.
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This is when the freedom of an individual is taken too far. It's impossible to know how much the pregnant woman has already drunk which is probably why bartenders previously had the right to refuse service out of fear of harming an unborn child and the litigation that could follow.

I know someone who's parents were raging alcoholics and they have all the visible signs of fetal alcohol syndrome, Aspergers and other issues. It's no joke the effect on that childs life is ever lasting and damaging.

If I was a bartender I wouldn't feel comfortable selling alcohol to a clearly pregnant woman, that isn't discrimination it's my morality telling me I could be doing something wrong.
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