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post 1442088761 05-14-2016, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By VascularLord
the other old lady was prolly mentally challenged too considering she didnt gtfo when the officer opened fire. any normal person would've strafed themselves as soon as they saw the cop draw his firearm, but she kept walking like a zombie = retarded

if the bystander had gotten shot would've been pure darwinism, just like her whale friend
This is the logic of pro-cop people fellas. BRB if you get shot by a cop when you are innocent its your fault because you are mentally challenged.
post 1442088931 05-14-2016, 10:42 AM
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Strange how american cops kill people ten times as often as european cops.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser
Made a mistake by shooting a woman with someone directly behind her, shooting her multiple times when other opportunities were present, shooting someone dead when wound shots were available (as if he couldn't outrun her).
Shooting to wound... running away.... just stop dude, you're embarrassing yourself.
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post 1442089061 05-14-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By TrueForester
LOL at taking courage to be a cop.


They practice the motto "Protect and serve..... Only other LEOs"
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Originally Posted By VascularLord
the other old lady was prolly mentally challenged too considering she didnt gtfo when the officer opened fire. any normal person would've strafed themselves as soon as they saw the cop draw his firearm, but she kept walking like a zombie = retarded

if the bystander had gotten shot would've been pure darwinism, just like her whale friend
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem
Shooting to wound... running away.... just stop dude, you're embarrassing yourself.
No, I'm not.

BRB all shots have to be to kill
BRB old woman running slowly and he had enough time to pull his trigger 5 fuking times with her not even close to him, but somehow shooting her and dodging isn't an option (even though you said he should have dodged her before shooting).
BRB implying that taking steps to try and preserve all lives in a situation like this is unrealistic.

You're embarrassing yourself, bootlicker.
post 1442089531 05-14-2016, 10:46 AM
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post 1442089611 05-14-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser
BRB all shots have to be to kill
If you aren't authorized to kill someone, you aren't authorized to shoot them, period. To say nothing of how impractical "shooting to wound" is from a marksmanship perspective.
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On one hand, you don't go up to a cop with a fuking meat cleaver, but on the other hand it was a fat old woman stumbling along. Could have shot her in the leg...

And what about the person stood right behind her? Could have easily taken an accidental hit.
How dare you!

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You could tell the gangster in him wanted to go for the headshot at the end when he started aiming with the sideways grip thinking about it, but he held back.
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem
If you aren't authorized to kill someone, you aren't authorized to shoot them, period. To say nothing of how impractical "shooting to wound" is from a marksmanship perspective.
Getting shot center mass won't stop a 46 year old woman.. OK bro.
Adult male can't outrun overweight asian woman.. OK bro.

You claim he should have changed angle before shooting because of the bystander, but it's impossible for him to shoot her center mass a couple of times to where she inevitably will stop and fall (which even happened in the video and would have happened without the last shot)... OK bro.
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clearly shouldn't have aimed for center mass, why didnt he just shoot the cleaver out of her hand or aim for her hands/feet to stun her?













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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
You could tell the gangster in him wanted to go for the headshot at the end when he started aiming with the sideways grip thinking about it, but he held back.
When you use a gun one handed you cant it so the wrist is in a more neutral position.

Its not "gangsta," its a standard practice.
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post 1442090441 05-14-2016, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser
Getting shot center mass won't stop a 46 year old woman.. OK bro.
It did. And he stopped firing on her as soon as she dropped.
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem
When you use a gun one handed you cant it so the wrist is in a more neutral position.

Its not "gangsta," its a standard practice.
lol ok
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem
It did. And he stopped firing on her as soon as she dropped.
After 5 shots, which was too many, hence me saying "he shouldn't have done that".

In your mind: He had to kill her, there was no other alternative. Shooting her twice and evading which would have stopped her anyway and would potentially had preserved her so she could get the help she needed since this isn't a situation of a broad with a gun firing at everyone is unrealistic and stupid, he had to put her down even though I also agree he should have taken the time to move out of the way of the bystander and wasted precious time to shoot her.. but that time couldn't have been used to prevent a death; it had to be used to shoot someone dead.

Keep telling yourself that he was 100% in the right and that there were no other options, you're just one more idiot on here that I know to ignore.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser
After 5 shots, which was too many, hence me saying "he shouldn't have done that".

In your mind: He had to kill her, there was no other alternative. Shooting her twice and evading which would have stopped her anyway and would potentially had preserved her so she could get the help she needed since this isn't a situation of a broad with a gun firing at everyone is unrealistic and stupid, he had to put her down.

Keep telling yourself that he was 100% in the right and that there were no other options, you're just one more idiot on here that I know to ignore.
As I already clearly said, it was not a perfect response but it was both morally and legally justifiable.
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem
As I already clearly said, it was not a perfect response but it was both morally and legally justifiable.
and as I said, I'm not calling for his head but pointing out that he fuked up and that miscers who are sucking his ball sack to the point of ignoring her mental disorder and saying dumb chit like 'darwinism', 'should have shot the cleaver lolololo', 'play stupid games win stupid prizes' are retarded for treating the guy like Robocop.

Welcome to us practically saying the same thing, with my standpoint leaning towards "he could have done more" and you claiming "he did OK". Funny, I even said that we were saying the same thing awhile ago, but you were too busy being self-righteous telling me that I didn't know what I was talking about to read that bit.
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I think I could have outran that old lady. I wonder how far she would have chased me before she collapsed and fell to the ground in total exhaustian?
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Originally Posted By chalup
This is the logic of pro-cop people fellas. BRB if you get shot by a cop when you are innocent its your fault because you are mentally challenged.
Lol have you ever been held at gunpoint boyo? My friend and I almost got killed a while back bc we were dumb kids that played with our poorly marked airsoft rifles in the woods near a public park

A police officer came behind us in the path and yelled "get on the ground mother****er!"

I dropped to my stomach and threw my airsoft rifle to the side

Long story short we had a nice talk with him + his back up and he said he was very, very close to shooting my friend (closest to him) because he turned around like an idiot with his airsoft rifle still in hand. But the officer saw the faint orange tip (painted orange.. not bright orange) and made the judgement not to kill him. I'm sure going in he knew that the guns were fake considering the nature of the 911 call. But believe me if we hadn't listened to his orders he would've opened fire.

There have been similar instances where kids point their fake guns at officers and die because of it... Yet people never really understand how fast these things happen unless they've experienced it themselves. You and most of the other poster's in this thread have no experience on either end of being an LEO, or a person affected by an LEO's judgement to know what you're talking about. You're just another sheep who bites into social media's demonization of America's police officers.

The people you see who die/get beaten by officers are the ones who are mentally ill/stupid criminals that don't understand the severity of situations like this. It's pretty simple, follow an officer's orders and you won't die. There's nothing more to it

Of course there's the .00001% of police officers that are corrupt, but there are anomalies in every aspect of life



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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks
I think I could have outran that old lady. I wonder how far she would have chased me before she collapsed and fell to the ground in total exhaustian?
Nah, far easier just to take someone's life bro. Cooler that way too. Can celebrate and share kill stories with the rest of your trigger happy mates after!
How dare you!

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Originally Posted By VocelLoser
and as I said, I'm not calling for his head but pointing out that he fuked up and that miscers who are sucking his ball sack to the point of ignoring her mental disorder and saying dumb chit like 'darwinism', 'should have shot the cleaver lolololo', 'play stupid games win stupid prizes' are retarded for treating the guy like Robocop.

Welcome to us practically saying the same thing, with my standpoint leaning towards "he could have done more" and you claiming "he did OK". Funny, I even said that we were saying the same thing awhile ago, but you were too busy being self-righteous telling me that I didn't know what I was talking about to read that bit.
dude just stop with the white knighting. You have too high expectations from the misc. If you haven't noticed people make jokes about anything and everything because it's not worth taking life so seriously. He could have taken fewer shots but it's hard to think with a straight head when someone is charging at you with a freaking weapon. It doesn't matter if she has a mental illness if she is a threat to public safety. What you think serial killers don't have any mental illnesses? So should we just let them off the hook? Also what if she didn't die? Is it really much better for her to rot in prison using taxpayers money? How's that a better situation for her?
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If, as people have said in this thread, she is having a mental breakdown because of a mental illness... And is chasing him with a meat cleaver, it was right to shoot her.

She could have easily turned around and swung at the woman behind or if a child somehow ran outside or some crap.

He was protecting citizens by eliminating the threat
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yeah, it was necessary, i wish the police was even more trigger happy, lets be cereal if you are getting in trouble in first place you are some kind of scum, society do no need people like that, what if instead of the police officer there was a small child around her ?
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY
Also what if she didn't die? Is it really much better for her to rot in prison using taxpayers money? How's that a better situation for her?
Serial killers =/= Bipolar Disorder, you fuking idiot.

Yes, because she'd be alive. She'd be able to get the help she needed, and she'd be alive. Fuking lol at you thinking she planned some massive murdering spree, killed a bunch of people, and died in a blaze of glory to avoid life in prison.

I argued he could have and should have done more, and that the training argument is stupid since he panicked in this situation. I don't have high expectations of the misc and I'm not white knighting, I'm saying the people who are legitimately defending this cop to the T as if he made no mistakes, ignoring facts like her mental disorder and claiming she was fully aware of what she was doing are retards.

Re-read what I said and get a better understanding of my position before you attempt to criticize it.
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Originally Posted By iLiketoLift898
Strange how american cops kill people ten times as often as european cops.
How's that whole Muslim refugee thing working out for Europe?
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Until the majority of you saying that 'they shouldn't have shot her, they could have outrun her' actually go through police training (military or civilian enforcement training) your speculations have little credit.

Our job as law enforcement is to use the least lethal use of force possible. However, the least lethal thing a cop has is his hands themselves. In this situation you have a woman with a meat cleaver. That already escalates the situation to "I need to keep my distance" so a baton is out of the picture, fists is out, and while SOME cops are armed with a taser, you probably don't know that a taser is not always a reliable weapon. Plus, you could easily kill a suspect just from them falling on the damn knife or cleaver. If I tell a suspect to drop the weapon more than a couple times and the presume to be an ARMED threat, I'm taking them out... old woman or ****ing terminator -- they're a threat to not only myself but also others and themselves. Additionally, my job isn't to run away from the threat. Think of things from a cops perspective for once. You don't know all the **** that cops deal with.
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Originally Posted By VascularLord
Lol have you ever been held at gunpoint boyo? My friend and I almost got killed a while back bc we were dumb kids that played with our poorly marked airsoft rifles in the woods near a public park

A police officer came behind us in the path and yelled "get on the ground mother****er!"

I dropped to my stomach and threw my airsoft rifle to the side

Long story short we had a nice talk with him + his back up and he said he was very, very close to shooting my friend (closest to him) because he turned around like an idiot with his airsoft rifle still in hand. But the officer saw the faint orange tip (painted orange.. not bright orange) and made the judgement not to kill him. I'm sure going in he knew that the guns were fake considering the nature of the 911 call. But believe me if we hadn't listened to his orders he would've opened fire.

There have been similar instances where kids point their fake guns at officers and die because of it... Yet people never really understand how fast these things happen unless they've experienced it themselves. You and most of the other poster's in this thread have no experience on either end of being an LEO, or a person affected by an LEO's judgement to know what you're talking about. You're just another sheep who bites into social media's demonization of America's police officers.

The people you see who die/get beaten by officers are the ones who are mentally ill/stupid criminals that don't understand the severity of situations like this. It's pretty simple, follow an officer's orders and you won't die. There's nothing more to it

Of course there's the .00001% of police officers that are corrupt, but there are anomalies in every aspect of life



/thread btw
What the **** does any of this have to do with what I said or you saying a woman deserves to die for being a retard? And you just said /thread to your own post? Lmao.
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Fuk that's just really tragic. Although I think stupid/mentally ill people have a right to be protected within reason, I can imagine it's not that easy to keep your cool when in the cops shoes.
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