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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
go tell that to germany ad most of the scandinavians who enjoy better quality of life than americans with government provided servicesIt's wasteful BECAUSE it's run by the Government.
I'm not even arguing that US should move to those systems, but LOL at ignoring the facts.
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Originally Posted By smoked04⏩
lmao @ united kaliphateI lived in the United Kaliphate (was the United kingdom at the time)for a few years and got to see your "great" and "free" healthcare system firsthand, it's fuking terrible and wait times for simple care it's beyond ridiculous.
I'd rather just get a decent REAL job that pays me enough and has a great health plan so I can see specialists, regular pcm, or anything else in a timely manner and know they aren't some subpar fool hustled through a medical education to be thrown in a subpar treatment facility to meet quotas.
Lmao at the uk.
I'd rather just get a decent REAL job that pays me enough and has a great health plan so I can see specialists, regular pcm, or anything else in a timely manner and know they aren't some subpar fool hustled through a medical education to be thrown in a subpar treatment facility to meet quotas.
Lmao at the uk.
british doctors can suck yea.. my "GP" literally Googles when i see him wtf mane.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
It's wasteful BECAUSE it's run by the Government. FYI, over half a trillion dollars is spent each year in the US on Welfare. Yes, that's a small portion of the "budget" (we don't even have a budget so more like a small % of overall "spending") but it's still a huge sum of money, and it grows yearly.

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ...even-countries
U.S. Ranks Last Among Seven Countries on Health System Performance Based on Measures of Quality, Efficiency, Access, Equity, and Healthy Lives
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
We actually have a lot less social spending than we did 20+ years ago. The 1996 welfare reform curtailed social spending by making it temporary while unemployed and requiring recipients to work to get more assistance.It's wasteful BECAUSE it's run by the Government. FYI, over half a trillion dollars is spent each year in the US on Welfare. Yes, that's a small portion of the "budget" (we don't even have a budget so more like a small % of overall "spending") but it's still a huge sum of money, and it grows yearly.
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Originally Posted By ProjectWheyhem⏩
If you had the mental capacity to read....oh boy. Did I ever say you were from the US? Did you not see how I said 'THEY'? Did I ever refer to US medical care as your medical care? NO. Strong backfire. And of course it isn't free but it ****s any the majority of the worlds medical care, do you know how expensive cancer treatment is? I am sure at one point you or one of your family members will end up costing the NHS far more than the amount that you put in through taxes. I despise people like you, you grow up with the country supporting you and then you try and talk **** about it.If you had the mental capacity to check my location you would see it tells you I live in the UK.
Again it isn't free and the NHS is overburdened, underfunded and on the verge of complete collapse.
Our healthcare is a joke, that doesn't mean America's healthcare isn't but it unfortunately does mean that ours is.
Again it isn't free and the NHS is overburdened, underfunded and on the verge of complete collapse.
Our healthcare is a joke, that doesn't mean America's healthcare isn't but it unfortunately does mean that ours is.
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Originally Posted By freddibnah⏩
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ...even-countries
U.S. Ranks Last Among Seven Countries on Health System Performance Based on Measures of Quality, Efficiency, Access, Equity, and Healthy Lives
We also have a substantially larger population than any European country so doctor's are always busy and in many places there's a lack of certain types of specialists.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ...even-countries
U.S. Ranks Last Among Seven Countries on Health System Performance Based on Measures of Quality, Efficiency, Access, Equity, and Healthy Lives
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
People don't seem to understand that those bills you see are what insurance usually pays. For example - I would be responsible for meeting my deductible (let's just say $5000) of healthcare expenses for the year. Anything beyond that would be covered 100% by my insurance company.thats probably better than going bankrupt just because you got sick.
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Originally Posted By Lightsout13⏩
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capitaWe also have a substantially larger population than any European country so doctor's are always busy and in many places there's a lack of certain types of specialists.
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
There is a doctor shortage in the US canuck.Why America steals doctors from poorer countries
http://www.theguardian.com/education...ping-countries
Is the U.S. really facing a serious doctor shortage?
pbs.org/newshour/rundown/u-s-really-facing-serious-doctor-shortage
U.S. faces 90,000 doctor shortage by 2025, medical school association warns
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ciation-warns/
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even wors yank brahs:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...t-9542833.html
11/11 on healthcare...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...t-9542833.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...t-9542833.html
11/11 on healthcare...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...t-9542833.html
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LMAO op is really mad @ America isn't he.
funny how he's bishing about American on a BB.com -----which was created by an American
Captain Americans reaction to op




funny how he's bishing about American on a BB.com -----which was created by an American
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Again, I point to the million+ welfare leeches they are now contending with, courtesy of Islam.go tell that to germany ad most of the scandinavians who enjoy better quality of life than americans with government provided services
I'm not even arguing that US should move to those systems, but LOL at ignoring the facts.
I'm not even arguing that US should move to those systems, but LOL at ignoring the facts.
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Originally Posted By Eterniity⏩
Actually it doesn't chit on the majority of the world's healthcare.If you had the mental capacity to read....oh boy. Did I ever say you were from the US? Did you not see how I said 'THEY'? Did I ever refer to US medical care as your medical care? NO. Strong backfire. And of course it isn't free but it ****s any the majority of the worlds medical care, do you know how expensive cancer treatment is? I am sure at one point you or one of your family members will end up costing the NHS far more than the amount that you put in through taxes. I despise people like you, you grow up with the country supporting you and then you try and talk **** about it.
The NHS is dying. A product of ever more bureaucracy, immigrants, Marxism and a complete shortage of investment into producing more doctors and being competitive enough to keep them. Coupled with an entitled and unhealthy population that have no incentive to be healthy and no incentive to work and pay taxes.
The fact you seem enthused by every person potentially costing the NHS more than they pay in, shows what a startling lack of economic knowledge you have.
The NHS will not exist in 10 years because it is not sustainable. Do you want to:
A- Pay more into it through taxes? Knowing full well you will be covering the shortfalls of others who don't pay.
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B- Drastically cut them amount of people coming into this country and using the NHS? Because we have a population that is growing by 1,000,000+ a year through immigration and is expected to have grown by 11 million in by 2025.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Yet you made the statement that European healthcare and socialist systems are so great. Greece is in Europe.I know retard, thats the kind of society you get when people are free to ignore taxes and dont invest in a solid government
The same socialist systems currently being exploited by mass Islamic immigration.
You made the point that Greeks don't pay taxes to contribute to social services and Greece is bankrupt as a result.
Then you continue to espouse the virtues of the NHS, a system that is collapsing because many of its users do not pay taxes.

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Originally Posted By RhysB1993⏩
It's actually the inverse of what you just said. Americans keep 60% of their money.According to this, US citizens on average have > 60% of their annual salary spent on tax. In the U.K it is 57%. Time to lay down and rot. Better hope no one calls an ambulance for you as you'll have to pay to rot in the ambulance. What a joke.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26327114
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Healthcare is free to smart people who don't pay taxes and let others pay. Who gives a fukk about taxpaying cucks anyway? Paying for rapefugees lmao. Gonna take the first job paying under the table I can get.
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Originally Posted By moldoo⏩
The Euro is currently 12 cents stronger than the U.S dollar. Also, just because a currency has more purchasing power doesn't mean it's superior. The U.S economy is producing 17-18 trillion this year ALONE, with a population of over 300 million people, inflation is necessary to keep up with demand.You guys should have know by now that your country is just a testing ground for europe , ever wondered why euro and the british pound is far more strong than the us dollar ? well now you know.
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You serve all steaks well done and warm beer. Your country has gone full retard.
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ITT Instantloser lays down logic and those who have no logical thinking ability get mad.
I love when people use European countries to insult the US system but then quietly ignore the fact that many European countries are failing (Greece) or on the brink (Spain, Italy) because of a system that doesn't work/isn't sustainable.
I hate US healthcare more than anyone as I've been fcked over from it numerous times but if you think government run health care is the answer, I point you to the VA system. The most godawful, useless, piece of **** health care (government run) on the planet. Absolutely garbage. I mean fcking GARBAGE. Good luck with that national health care gents!
I love when people use European countries to insult the US system but then quietly ignore the fact that many European countries are failing (Greece) or on the brink (Spain, Italy) because of a system that doesn't work/isn't sustainable.
I hate US healthcare more than anyone as I've been fcked over from it numerous times but if you think government run health care is the answer, I point you to the VA system. The most godawful, useless, piece of **** health care (government run) on the planet. Absolutely garbage. I mean fcking GARBAGE. Good luck with that national health care gents!
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american coffee, a thousand calorie liquid cake


european coffee: classy, small, strong and sugarless




european coffee: classy, small, strong and sugarless


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just lol at this debate
my parents are rich and I am an entitled
if something happens ----> private hospital
u mad ? staymad
my parents are rich and I am an entitled
if something happens ----> private hospital
u mad ? staymad
communist until you get rich
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
I think OP meant as free as going to the park or using a sidewalk.No such thing as free. Your socialist brainwashing is complete.
That said taxation is theft.
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VAT, huge income tax, bunch of BS fines and fees you subjects have to pay.
As Heinlein said, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
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nothing is free, pleb.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
No, it isn't. I linked the definition of free from Webster's Dictionary. If anyone pays for it, it isn't free. Just because you stole money from taxpayers through the use of government force to pay for your medical bills doesn't mean those taxpayers didn't pay. That's why they're called taxPAYERS, ffs.Sorry but that's bullchit.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/free
Simple Definition of free
: not costing any money
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Find some memes and GIFs from your own poverty azz country. Make fun of our health care and proceed to swallow our media up like one of your mates loads.
Without USA, you would be a fukcing German.
Only celebrities you fukctards have are royalty? WTF? And your weather is chit. So OK Opie, have fun with your free poverty healthcare in your poverty azz country.
Without USA, you would be a fukcing German.
Only celebrities you fukctards have are royalty? WTF? And your weather is chit. So OK Opie, have fun with your free poverty healthcare in your poverty azz country.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
thats an immigration policy issue, not the welfare system.Again, I point to the million+ welfare leeches they are now contending with, courtesy of Islam.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
lol if you think the situation in America is that much better. High unemployment, incomes not rising for anyone but the top percentiles, joke of a healthcare system, low education performance, high crime and incarceration, overworked unhealthy rude people.I love when people use European countries to insult the US system but then quietly ignore the fact that many European countries are failing (Greece) or on the brink (Spain, Italy) because of a system that doesn't work/isn't sustainable.
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