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Go to casino
$4k on black
Leave with $8k
Give $2k back to bank
What could go wrong?
$4k on black
Leave with $8k
Give $2k back to bank
What could go wrong?
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05-23-2016, 08:28 AM
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It's illegal for you to spend that money OP return it to the bank and make sure your account balance is correct (serious) they'll sue you for the difference
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05-23-2016, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By k1ckstand⏩
Came in to say this. The banks, and law, see this as theft. Be very, very cautious.It's the same thing as stealing IMO.
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Originally Posted By k1ckstand⏩
A flat double like that would be so easy for a bank to find, every move she makes is video recorded they'll find the transaction in questionEveryone saying they are going to be able to track it and debit OP's account is a full retard. There's no way they are able to track a teller handing someone $2k in cash. When the teller shows a $2k difference at the end of the day when he counts his box, the back office will research it. It could be recovered only if the teller took in, for example, a $2k check and accidentally deposited it as cash.
The teller may call some of the customers he thinks he could've given extra cash to and ask them to double count it and return it if there's an error. OP is in the clear here but he's scum for keeping the cash. Strong justifications with the bailout money, etc. It's the same thing as stealing IMO.
The teller may call some of the customers he thinks he could've given extra cash to and ask them to double count it and return it if there's an error. OP is in the clear here but he's scum for keeping the cash. Strong justifications with the bailout money, etc. It's the same thing as stealing IMO.
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05-23-2016, 08:30 AM
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worst case, the guy loses his job and the bank takes the money back from you.
best case, the bank just takes the money back form you.
just LOL @ thinking they cant track down that you got the money in error. its not like they have ALL of your info or anything...
best case, the bank just takes the money back form you.
just LOL @ thinking they cant track down that you got the money in error. its not like they have ALL of your info or anything...
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05-23-2016, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By J1n⏩
You forgot the part where he is charged. It is considered theft, by law.worst case...
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05-23-2016, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By k1ckstand⏩
Lol how can you call him scum for their mistake?OP is in the clear here but he's scum for keeping the cash. Strong justifications with the bailout money, etc. It's the same thing as stealing IMO.
First off the money is from the banks, not some single mother struggling to make ends meet. The same banks that rob most of us from a decent way of life. Not everyone is CEO10k/aday.
And in all seriousness, 2k is chump change to a bank, OP go enjoy your money, it's probably the universes way of giving back for your good karma.
05-23-2016, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah⏩
You can try to justify it anyway you like, but you're just making excuses. Have some god damn character and do the right thing.Lol how can you call him scum for their mistake?
First off the money is from the banks, not some single mother struggling to make ends meet. The same banks that rob most of us from a decent way of life. Not everyone is CEO10k/aday.
And in all seriousness, 2k is chump change to a bank, OP go enjoyyour money, it's probably the universes way of giving back for your good karma.
First off the money is from the banks, not some single mother struggling to make ends meet. The same banks that rob most of us from a decent way of life. Not everyone is CEO10k/aday.
And in all seriousness, 2k is chump change to a bank, OP go enjoyyour money, it's probably the universes way of giving back for your good karma.
It's not his money.
05-23-2016, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By J1n⏩
It is NOT arguable, it's the same situation if someone over deposits into your account spending that money is theft as it's not yours.that's arguable since the teller handed him the money.
If I take someone else's money and hand it to you is the money not stolen? You would be receiving stolen funds and knowingly spending them.
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05-23-2016, 08:43 AM
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Lol I fuked up badly years ago when I worked as a teller. Guy had like 5 transactions and the last one was a withdrawal. Changed his mind halfway through so in the computer I already put through the 2k amount to his account but on my cash machine I changed it to the new amount he wanted (5k). Was short 3k and was freaking out since I had only been there a month. Assistant manager didn't give a fuk and they found the transaction pretty quickly by matching my withdrawals to the logs on my cash machine. Called the guy and he denied it but we debited him anyways and showed him video proof when he came in a few days later to argue it. He left with the awww fuk bye expression.
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05-23-2016, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah⏩
Learn how banks work buddy. The money that are in the banks are the peoples money. Banks makes money from interest.Lol how can you call him scum for their mistake?
First off the money is from the banks, not some single mother struggling to make ends meet. The same banks that rob most of us from a decent way of life. Not everyone is CEO10k/aday.
And in all seriousness, 2k is chump change to a bank, OP go enjoy your money, it's probably the universes way of giving back for your good karma.
First off the money is from the banks, not some single mother struggling to make ends meet. The same banks that rob most of us from a decent way of life. Not everyone is CEO10k/aday.
And in all seriousness, 2k is chump change to a bank, OP go enjoy your money, it's probably the universes way of giving back for your good karma.
Firstly, they would never be able to track you. You are good to go and spend that money if you want. However, I would return that money ASAP. It is an action of character and skills. Everyone needs money OP not just you. Sooner or later, you are going to feel guilt and its going to make you lose sleep. 2k is a lot but it also isnt. Your conscience and character is worth a lot more. So if you decide to return the money, ask for the manager and tell him the situation.
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05-23-2016, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted By tsdub86⏩
Finally somome with a brain,morins ITT jeez I can't believe it. They can not debit your account for speculation Imaigine the law suit that would occur if they were wrong and stole 2k from somone. Yes it is speculation bc even if "the computer tracked it to the exact transaction" the teller put it in an envelope so who knows we're the other 2k went and you can still deny it to no end.I've been in the banking industry for over 10 years. The bank has no recourse to force you to return the money based purely on speculation. They may call you and say we believe we gave you an extra $2000. Just say that they're mistaken and that you counted the money in the envelope several times and that it only had $2000.
They will eat the loss.
Depending on the teller's prior over/short record and their policies on large "Outages", he may get fired. He will not have to repay the outage. Not your problem.
They will eat the loss.
Depending on the teller's prior over/short record and their policies on large "Outages", he may get fired. He will not have to repay the outage. Not your problem.
100% fine if this ain't a fraud thread sick of the plebs in here lol at the guy who said jail time
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05-23-2016, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
Not a single person has counter argued this post.lol OP, let me break it down for you.
People love to claim "chance, destiny, and fate" when something good happens to them like when meeting the love of their life at the park, or buying a winning scratch off lottery ticket.
But when fate hands you an extra $2000 at the bank, people want you to return it and "do the right thing" as if destiny hooking you up for a change is thewrongthing? WTF
Keep it, OP.
People love to claim "chance, destiny, and fate" when something good happens to them like when meeting the love of their life at the park, or buying a winning scratch off lottery ticket.
But when fate hands you an extra $2000 at the bank, people want you to return it and "do the right thing" as if destiny hooking you up for a change is thewrongthing? WTF
Keep it, OP.
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05-23-2016, 08:51 AM
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05-23-2016, 08:54 AM
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Lol at people thinking the bank is only acting on speculation
You realize they have computer programs keeping track of debits and credits to accounts as well as separate programs keeping track of their cash machine's deposit/withdrawal logs everything time stamped to the second right? Not to mention cameras from multiple angles.
U guys using some sort of Amish bank where everything is tracked in a ledger?
But ya, he's not gonna face jail time. If he doesn't have the extra 2k in his account they'll put it in a negative and block all his accounts until it's brought out of negative.
Eventually it'll go to collections. If it was a couple hundred bucks they'd just write it off and blacklist you but 2k they'd send on collections
You realize they have computer programs keeping track of debits and credits to accounts as well as separate programs keeping track of their cash machine's deposit/withdrawal logs everything time stamped to the second right? Not to mention cameras from multiple angles.
U guys using some sort of Amish bank where everything is tracked in a ledger?
But ya, he's not gonna face jail time. If he doesn't have the extra 2k in his account they'll put it in a negative and block all his accounts until it's brought out of negative.
Eventually it'll go to collections. If it was a couple hundred bucks they'd just write it off and blacklist you but 2k they'd send on collections
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05-23-2016, 08:59 AM
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Just lol at you trying to defend your actions and justifying what you are doing. You didn't earn that money. Regardless of whether or not you think you will be "caught" doesn't make what you are doing any better than a thief. No character.
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Worked briefly as a bank teller (yes Jewish I know)
Is it morally wrong? Probably.
Will the guy get fired? high chances, yes
Will they take it out of OPs account / make him negative? No. It is the tellers responsibility to give the proper amount. Although they could see the 4K being taken on cameras, there is absolutely no way to prove that there was 4K in the envelope when it was handed to OP, because the teller didn't take the money and count it in front of him.
If they did try taking it out / making negative account, they'd be liable for a big lawsuit. There would be no proof that he actually received any additional money.
Is it morally wrong? Probably.
Will the guy get fired? high chances, yes
Will they take it out of OPs account / make him negative? No. It is the tellers responsibility to give the proper amount. Although they could see the 4K being taken on cameras, there is absolutely no way to prove that there was 4K in the envelope when it was handed to OP, because the teller didn't take the money and count it in front of him.
If they did try taking it out / making negative account, they'd be liable for a big lawsuit. There would be no proof that he actually received any additional money.
05-23-2016, 09:10 AM
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you best believe the bank gonna get it's money one way or another they love creating more debt slaves and this is a great way they hopeful tha top goes out and spends it.
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05-23-2016, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By LOMISC⏩
Another case of complete and utter ignorance, seriously do you just smash buttons on your keyboard and say "fuk using my brain"What's the point of OP giving it back now?
He's kept it long enough that the bank can **** him if they want. May as well just hope for the best but keep the money safe just in case. I'd give it 6 months before spending.
He's kept it long enough that the bank can **** him if they want. May as well just hope for the best but keep the money safe just in case. I'd give it 6 months before spending.
OP "got his money" on Saturday, banks close at noon or 1 on Saturdays. Banks are closed on Sundays, it's now Monday.
So, no, "too much time" has not passed you moron.
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lol at these sjw's trying to scare you into bringing the money back. There is no way for them to prove that the missing 2k was given to you. They can speculate on the time the money was lost, the missing amount totaling the amount you took out etc. but the bottom line is they cant know for sure unless the investigator himself sees you take 4k out of that envelope.
And to the idiots saying help the teller keep his job, how incompetent can you be to miscount an extra 2000 dollars? I guess no one should be held accountable for their jobs anymore. he deserves whatever the banks punishment is.
**** morals. taking 2k from a bank isnt the same as taking 2k from a disabled veteran, chit is literally a drop in the bucket for them.
keep the money and buy yourself a better car or pay off your tuition.
And to the idiots saying help the teller keep his job, how incompetent can you be to miscount an extra 2000 dollars? I guess no one should be held accountable for their jobs anymore. he deserves whatever the banks punishment is.
**** morals. taking 2k from a bank isnt the same as taking 2k from a disabled veteran, chit is literally a drop in the bucket for them.
keep the money and buy yourself a better car or pay off your tuition.
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05-23-2016, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Upshall18⏩
Not every bank uses cash recycling machines. Even if the bank in question did, the security cameras are not 4k HD with every imaginable angle to verify that the teller put exactly $4000 in that envelope. Have you ever seen a bank robbery video in your life? They can barely get a good image of the suspect, let alone verifiable pictures of currency with their denominations.Lol at people thinking the bank is only acting on speculation
You realize they have computer programs keeping track of debits and credits to accounts as well as separate programs keeping track of their cash machine's deposit/withdrawal logs everything time stamped to the second right? Not to mention cameras from multiple angles.
U guys using some sort of Amish bank where everything is tracked in a ledger?
But ya, he's not gonna face jail time. If he doesn't have the extra 2k in his account they'll put it in a negative and block all his accounts until it's brought out of negative.
Eventually it'll go to collections. If it was a couple hundred bucks they'd just write it off and blacklist you but 2k they'd send on collections
You realize they have computer programs keeping track of debits and credits to accounts as well as separate programs keeping track of their cash machine's deposit/withdrawal logs everything time stamped to the second right? Not to mention cameras from multiple angles.
U guys using some sort of Amish bank where everything is tracked in a ledger?
But ya, he's not gonna face jail time. If he doesn't have the extra 2k in his account they'll put it in a negative and block all his accounts until it's brought out of negative.
Eventually it'll go to collections. If it was a couple hundred bucks they'd just write it off and blacklist you but 2k they'd send on collections
The teller manager will have the drawer recounted, the debits/credits re-balanced, all to confirm that the teller screwed up. Call the customer and hope that they are honest. If not, tough luck.
The banks I've worked with are all publicly traded on NYSE. Not "amish" lol.
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
Yes. Unless "Destiny" was the name of the teller who handed OP the extra $2k.Not a single person has counter argued this post.
Am I the crazy one?
Am I the crazy one?
The other things you mentioned like winning the lottery or meeting the love of your life at a park are luck or coincidences. This situation is neither of those things, just a careless error on the part of a bank employee.
Also, someone's job is potentially at risk. I know you'll probably argue perhaps the teller is bad at their job and deserves to get fired, but this situation is easily rectifiable.
05-23-2016, 09:24 AM
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I don't understand how this happens, but I'm not calling OP a liar. This happened to one of my best friends, although it wasn't nearly that amount of money. He tried to withdraw like $300 or so, and there ended up being an extra $100 in their somehow. This was like 5 years ago though so I don't remember all the details.
I'd give it back. Realistically, you probably won't get caught, but that's a possibility I wouldn't want to think about. Regardless though, out of just moral principal, I wouldn't take 2k (or any amount of money) that's not mine from anyone (regardless on your opinion of the company). Lastly, you returning the money could be the difference from someone being fired and someone just getting yelled at for being a dumbass.
I'd give it back. Realistically, you probably won't get caught, but that's a possibility I wouldn't want to think about. Regardless though, out of just moral principal, I wouldn't take 2k (or any amount of money) that's not mine from anyone (regardless on your opinion of the company). Lastly, you returning the money could be the difference from someone being fired and someone just getting yelled at for being a dumbass.
Originally Posted By sloop⏩
Counter argument to your post is that it's irrational. Does anything else really need to be said?Not a single person has counter argued this post.
Am I the crazy one?
Am I the crazy one?
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fukn misc
makes reason out of the genocide of aboriginals.....thinks this is bad ethics
id keep it
makes reason out of the genocide of aboriginals.....thinks this is bad ethics

id keep it
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Originally Posted By tsdub86⏩
I worked in bum fuk nowhere in Canada where all our stuff was second hand from American banks when they upgraded. The cameras aren't 4k but they can still show the transfer from the machine to the envelope. If he didn't have a machine and was taking cash from a drawer without counting then I don't even know what to say about thatNot every bank uses cash recycling machines. Even if the bank in question did, the security cameras are not 4k HD with every imaginable angle to verify that the teller put exactly $4000 in that envelope. Have you ever seen a bank robbery video in your life? They can barely get a good image of the suspect, let alone verifiable pictures of currency with their denominations.
The teller manager will have the drawer recounted, the debits/credits re-balanced, all to confirm that the teller screwed up. Call the customer and hope that they are honest. If not, tough luck.
The banks I've worked with are all publicly traded on NYSE. Not "amish" lol.
The teller manager will have the drawer recounted, the debits/credits re-balanced, all to confirm that the teller screwed up. Call the customer and hope that they are honest. If not, tough luck.
The banks I've worked with are all publicly traded on NYSE. Not "amish" lol.
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05-23-2016, 09:33 AM
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05-23-2016, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By FitnessBlue⏩
This never in a million years would they just take the cash from your account. If they ever did somehow track it back to you *which is improbable* they would just call you or send you a letter asking about it and ask you to return it if not then they MAY take it further.They have no way to CONFIRM that OP received the funds. No way would his account get debited 2k out of "speculation". The bank has OP's phone number and will at best...make a phone call. Deff odd that the teller didn't count it in front of OP.
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