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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant⏩
don't forget the $9 gas eitherVAT, huge income tax, bunch of BS fines and fees you subjects have to pay.
As Heinlein said, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
As Heinlein said, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
Here's how it works for a non peasant here in the US with insurance when you get injured - Pick a surgeon off Yelp reviews. Call surgeon. See him the next day. MRI that afternoon. Back for surgery a couple of days later.
Out of pocket costs - about $100 and my cost of living is literally 50% less than yours.
Enjoy your 6 month wait to see a 3rd world substitute Dr and that warm feeling of superiority
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
The 2 are inextricably linked.thats an immigration policy issue, not the welfare system.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Strong argument.lol if you think the situation in America is that much better. High unemployment, incomes not rising for anyone but the top percentiles, joke of a healthcare system, low education performance, high crime and incarceration, overworked unhealthy rude people.
I never said the system in the US was good. I'm saying the idea of this European system where it's roses compared to the US is a joke and, even worse, it's not sustainable. The entire EU is on the brink of collapse and if it wasn't for Germany, it would probably already be there. You can't have 2-3 countries supporting the rest of the leeches and Europe is finding that out now. Add in massive immigration where no one works but uses the system and you have a recipe for disaster. Welfare states are not sustainable and your "free" health care is a part of that.
Also, as I said, the "free" healthcare in the US (VA system) is the worst health care you can possibly have here.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
no they arent, you could crack down on immigrants and still maintain public services for your citizens. you could have one without the otherThe 2 are inextricably linked.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
The US was on the brink of collapse not that long ago and if not for absurd bailouts we'd be fuked too. I'm not seeing your point, what are you arguing for then if you think both systems are terrible?Strong argument.
I never said the system in the US was good. I'm saying the idea of this European system where it's roses compared to the US is a joke and, even worse, it's not sustainable. The entire EU is on the brink of collapse and if it wasn't for Germany, it would probably already be there. You can't have 2-3 countries supporting the rest of the leeches and Europe is finding that out now. Add in massive immigration where no one works but uses the system and you have a recipe for disaster. Welfare states are not sustainable and your "free" health care is a part of that.
Also, as I said, the "free" healthcare in the US (VA system) is the worst health care you can possibly have here.
I never said the system in the US was good. I'm saying the idea of this European system where it's roses compared to the US is a joke and, even worse, it's not sustainable. The entire EU is on the brink of collapse and if it wasn't for Germany, it would probably already be there. You can't have 2-3 countries supporting the rest of the leeches and Europe is finding that out now. Add in massive immigration where no one works but uses the system and you have a recipe for disaster. Welfare states are not sustainable and your "free" health care is a part of that.
Also, as I said, the "free" healthcare in the US (VA system) is the worst health care you can possibly have here.
also what about socialist scandinavians that are doing a ok?
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Someone will have said it but it's not free, we're paying for it through our ridiculous taxes.
Brb paying for disgusting fat and unhealthy people, drug addicts and alcoholics to abuse our system.
Brb paying for people not earning enough to pay their share.
Brb screwed over if you're healthy and make decent money.
Brb *******s still complaining that we don't go far enough.
Brb greedy doctors striking.
Brb paying for disgusting fat and unhealthy people, drug addicts and alcoholics to abuse our system.
Brb paying for people not earning enough to pay their share.
Brb screwed over if you're healthy and make decent money.
Brb *******s still complaining that we don't go far enough.
Brb greedy doctors striking.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
The strongest part about the bailouts were the hyuuuuuuge bonuses all the ceo's got from tax payer money.The US was on the brink of collapse not that long ago and if not for absurd bailouts we'd be fuked too. I'm not seeing your point, what are you arguing for then if you think both systems are terrible?
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
You seem to have lost the premise of this thread, which is that healthcare is "free" in the UK. It is not free. All other topics/arguments being presented in this thread are strawmen or off topic.The US was on the brink of collapse not that long ago and if not for absurd bailouts we'd be fuked too. I'm not seeing your point, what are you arguing for then if you think both systems are terrible?
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05-20-2016, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By RhysB1993⏩
Did you actually read the article? I think you only looked at the part about people in the top tax brackets. Scroll down and you'll see that people making 'average' salaries have quite different tax percentages.According to this, US citizens on average have > 60% of their annual salary spent on tax. In the U.K it is 57%. Time to lay down and rot. Better hope no one calls an ambulance for you as you'll have to pay to rot in the ambulance. What a joke.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26327114
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26327114
"These tax rates apply to single people with no children, on an average salary for their country.
UK - 24.90%
USA - 22.70%
The following tax rates apply to married couples with two children.
UK - 24.9%
USA - 10.4%"
Same article:http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26327114
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
Had to be done unless you wanted great depression 2.0. Saved us and people are too retarded to understand that.The strongest part about the bailouts were the hyuuuuuuge bonuses all the ceo's got from tax payer money.
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And thats not really the government services that I think ARE necessary and requires tax money
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
LOL "I lost let's change subject"You seem to have lost the premise of this thread, which is that healthcare is "free" in the UK. It is not free. All other topics/arguments being presented in this thread are strawmen or off topic.
I thought we already settled that, obviously there is a cost to someone somewhere. But for individuals who need it, it's free for all intents and purposes. You're playing with semantics
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Originally Posted By ShabbaLife⏩
all of this is happening in US anywaySomeone will have said it but it's not free, we're paying for it through our ridiculous taxes.
Brb paying for disgusting fat and unhealthy people, drug addicts and alcoholics to abuse our system.
Brb paying for people not earning enough to pay their share.
Brb screwed over if you're healthy and make decent money.
Brb *******s still complaining that we don't go far enough.
Brb greedy doctors striking.
Brb paying for disgusting fat and unhealthy people, drug addicts and alcoholics to abuse our system.
Brb paying for people not earning enough to pay their share.
Brb screwed over if you're healthy and make decent money.
Brb *******s still complaining that we don't go far enough.
Brb greedy doctors striking.
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Originally Posted By ShabbaLife⏩
Brb leftwing UK leader using doctor strikesSomeone will have said it but it's not free, we're paying for it through our ridiculous taxes.
Brb paying for disgusting fat and unhealthy people, drug addicts and alcoholics to abuse our system.
Brb paying for people not earning enough to pay their share.
Brb screwed over if you're healthy and make decent money.
Brb *******s still complaining that we don't go far enough.
Brb greedy doctors striking.
Brb paying for disgusting fat and unhealthy people, drug addicts and alcoholics to abuse our system.
Brb paying for people not earning enough to pay their share.
Brb screwed over if you're healthy and make decent money.
Brb *******s still complaining that we don't go far enough.
Brb greedy doctors striking.

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05-20-2016, 11:31 AM
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[QUOTE=FlatGirlsFTW post_id=1443235121]Brb leftwing UK leader using doctor strikes
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brb hezbollah
[IMG]http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/09/16/12/Jeremy-Corbyn-Hezbollah-flag.jpg[/IM][/QUOTE]This guy is an absolute cuckold
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
No he's not.LOL "I lost let's change subject"
I thought we already settled that, obviously there is a cost to someone somewhere. But for individuals who need it, it's free for all intents and purposes. You're playing with semantics
I thought we already settled that, obviously there is a cost to someone somewhere. But for individuals who need it, it's free for all intents and purposes. You're playing with semantics
It's not free. You're just too obtuse/trolling to admit that.
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Originally Posted By ShabbaLife⏩
thisThis guy is an absolute cuckold
Brb liberal response to terrorism
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34886321
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Supports bailouts too?Had to be done unless you wanted great depression 2.0. Saved us and people are too retarded to understand that.
And thats not really the government services that I think ARE necessary and requires tax money
And thats not really the government services that I think ARE necessary and requires tax money
Oh boy, we're dealing with a class A troll right now ladies and gents. No wonder you're FA.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
No I dont, given the situation we were in I said it was necessary to avoid a worse outcome.Supports bailouts too?
Oh boy, we're dealing with a class A troll right now ladies and gents. No wonder you're FA.
Oh boy, we're dealing with a class A troll right now ladies and gents. No wonder you're FA.
What we need to is to remove moral hazard incentives where banks can gamble without consequence using a safety net
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The 2 topics on the miSC that trolls utilize to get 5+pages in 20 minutes, guns or health care. Those are what I call 'the big 2' if any non Ameribrah makes a topic about one of the big 2, it turns into a chitfest.
- We all know America's Healthcare is the best if you can afford it
- Canada and the UK do not get free Healthcare, we pay for it with every dollar we earn. We pay for it with every dollar we spend. Maybe we don't have to pay the hospital or doctor after each visit, but our taxes are paying them.
Good job though op, you sure rustled a lot of Jimmies; but at what cost? Would love to see your user cp
- We all know America's Healthcare is the best if you can afford it
- Canada and the UK do not get free Healthcare, we pay for it with every dollar we earn. We pay for it with every dollar we spend. Maybe we don't have to pay the hospital or doctor after each visit, but our taxes are paying them.
Good job though op, you sure rustled a lot of Jimmies; but at what cost? Would love to see your user cp
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Lol, I love you Brit's and your humor
I get healthcare/dental/vision insurance because I work a FT job, so I'm right there with you. LOL at these poverty uninsured dolts!!
I get healthcare/dental/vision insurance because I work a FT job, so I'm right there with you. LOL at these poverty uninsured dolts!!
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Yep. That's correct.In other words, it means the transaction you are entering into is one way and you don't have to exchange anything for the goods.
It does not mean that an item has never incurred any costs prior to that transaction.
Sorry but you are a complete and utter imbecile if you really think this way.
I'm talking Jason Genova levels of potato here man.
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how can you laugh at us considering the state your continent is in. at least were not cucks who are going to get cucked out of existence
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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
I think their point is that it comes out of your check brah. It's not 'free'. Although theirs isn't either, it's coming from their taxes but they see it as a buried cost. Like you see yours as a buried cost because it comes out before you see it.Lol, I love you Brit's and your humor
I get healthcare/dental/vision insurance because I work a FT job, so I'm right there with you. LOL at these poverty uninsured dolts!!
I get healthcare/dental/vision insurance because I work a FT job, so I'm right there with you. LOL at these poverty uninsured dolts!!
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Originally Posted By GirthKwake⏩
that's free too if you're pregnantYou wankers should invest in some dental care
your whore mother could get her teeth did 10 times over thanks to jamal
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Its not free, you have to live in the UK to get it...
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[QUOTE=TheAmericano post_id=1443220501]LMAO op is really mad @ America isn't he.
funny how he's bishing about American on a BB.com -----which was created by an American
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funny how he's bishing about American on a BB.com -----which was created by an American
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lmao at UK brahs bragging about free healthcare, over here we got that and free top level universities, what now?
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