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post 1442118601 05-14-2016, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
U and the cop in the vid have a lot in common.. No common sense.

Scared of a slow, fat, old woman lmao

U better invest in some firearms cuz you're way too big of a pussy to defend yourself/family otherwise
inb4 you're accused of being a liberal because you don't think all crime should be punishable by death.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
You're stupid.



Nobody's saying that; Quit trying to turn me saying "cop could have done more than kill the person" into some wk, sjw, 'she's a girl' bullchit.

I honestly believe you're trolling me at this point. Unless you're autistic as fuk, there's no way you can't comprehend what I'm saying when I say he could have taken more action to preserve her life while taking her down. Yeah, he dispatched for an ambulance.. after 5 shots. I knew you were going to say that, the only difference is he shot her with the intentions of killing her, but hoping that she'd live. That's the difference, the context of his actions, and my argument is solely "he could have done more instead of deciding he had to kill her to stop her".

People who are supporting his decision to killing her also claim that he should have moved out of the way when firing to avoid the bystander, which means that he would have had time to re-position himself, meaning that he could have easily shot and dodged just as well. Again, he's justified in shooting her, but could have done more to save her (more meaning not plugging her 5 fuking times).

Inb4 another response with me being delusional, what more could he do, wk, whatever else you have to throw at me that clearly shows you can't read. Negging you off recharge.
oh no someone disagrees, they are stupid and autistic. Good one; nice projection.

What more could he have done to preserve her life after he had shot her besides what he did (aka call for the ambulance)? I already agreed that 5 shots were unnecessary but I'd like to see what your liberal mind thinks when you are in that situation. Your mind is not always running calmly when someone's chasing you with a weapon like that I imagine.

I and neither you nor anyone else on here knows how much time he really had at that moment. None of us know his intentions either so idk why you're trying to judge that. Were 5 shots over the top? Yes. Can I empathize and understand that he was in a fukd up situation and probably not thinking straight? Yes.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Attacking someone with a knife unprovoked is not a mistake. I say kill them all.
Lol this. I've made many mistakes in my life. Attempted murder was never one of them.
Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
U and the cop in the vid have a lot in common.. No common sense.

Scared of a slow, fat, old woman lmao

U better invest in some firearms cuz you're way too big of a pussy to defend yourself/family otherwise
If your family is under attack and your trying to defend them, using something other than a gun doesn't make you alpha. It makes you stupid. Why the hell should you care what happens to a person that is trying to kill you or a loved one for no reason
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I've never been shot by a police officer.


Then again, I've never chased after one with a meat cleaver. Are the two related? Who knows.
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post 1442119991 05-14-2016, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
oh no someone disagrees, they are stupid and autistic. Good one; nice projection.
I said you were stupid for arguing that her being dead is better than her being alive because 'it's not like her life would all of a sudden become amazing'. The fact that you couldn't understand the context of me saying you're stupid for saying that is why I called you autistic, since you seem pretty autistic. IDC that you have a differing opinion; I'm not some controlling libtard saying you aren't allowed an opinion.. but when you say stupid things to me, I'm going to criticize them.

Lol, that last bit makes me wonder why you're even arguing with me. We're saying the exact same thing. I said that the shots were excessive and that he could have done more to preserve her life (which mean shoot her less and avoid her since it's not like a 46 year old woman is going to John Rambo around with bullets in her). I said he was right for shooting her, but could have done more.

Explain how I'm a liberal and you aren't, meanwhile we're saying the same fuking thing. Explain how me saying that he was right to shoot her but could have done more = me calling for him to be fired and jailed and burned at the stake. You just can't seem to understand my tone, the context of what I'm saying, or comprehend what I've written.
Can I empathize and understand that he was in a fukd up situation and probably not thinking straight? Yes.
Where have I expressed anything different? If I say he's justified in shooting her, then clearly I'm understanding of his situation. I just said he could have done more instead of standing there firing at her. That's it.

Hence autism.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
inb4 you're accused of being a liberal because you don't think all crime should be punishable by death.
lmao keep proving me right with each post buckaroo

everyone pay attention, a woman with a meat cleaver threatening people is now equal to all crimes
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Originally Posted By BMXcaprisun⏩
If your family is under attack and your trying to defend them, using something other than a gun doesn't make you alpha. It makes you stupid. Why the hell should you care what happens to a person that is trying to kill you or a loved one for no reason
do u have a gun within hands reach 100% of the time?

didn't think so boyo
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ITT: people who have ZERO idea what it's like to be a cop.

Cops deal with all the dregs of society that 99% of you never see or only in passing.

I was a cop for 3 years.

Play stupid games...
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
do u have a gun within hands reach 100% of the time?

didn't think so boyo
I do
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good job, one less crazy b1tch in the world
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
I do
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
lmao keep proving me right with each post buckaroo

everyone pay attention, a woman with a meat cleaver threatening people is now equal to all crimes
You seem the type to claim he supports the troops but would then label someone who served as a 'criminal' when they snapped.

Or would you defend that person, stating their mental illness caused them to behave like that? I wonder..
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
I said you were stupid for arguing that her being dead is better than her being alive because 'it's not like her life would all of a sudden become amazing'. The fact that you couldn't understand the context of me saying you're stupid for saying that is why I called you autistic, since you seem pretty autistic. IDC that you have a differing opinion; I'm not some controlling libtard saying you aren't allowed an opinion.. but when you say stupid things to me, I'm going to criticize them.

Lol, that last bit makes me wonder why you're even arguing with me. We're saying the exact same thing. I said that the shots were excessive and that he could have done more to preserve her life (which mean shoot her less and avoid her since it's not like a 46 year old woman is going to John Rambo around with bullets in her). I said he was right for shooting her, but could have done more.

Explain how I'm a liberal and you aren't, meanwhile we're saying the same fuking thing. Explain how me saying that he was right to shoot her but could have done more = me calling for him to be fired and jailed and burned at the stake. You just can't seem to understand my tone, the context of what I'm saying, or comprehend what I've written.


Where have I expressed anything different? If I say he's justified in shooting her, then clearly I'm understanding of his situation. I just said he could have done more instead of standing there firing at her. That's it.

Hence autism.
Oh no, someone didn't understand the exact context I was specifying on the Internet. So stupid, and hence autistic. Good one. As I said, nice projection. You do argue like a libtard though, try to make the other person feel bad for having a different opinion, say a million things to the person cause they have a slight disagreement, etc. lmao.

We are pretty much on the same page except for all I'm saying is I don't blame him for overreacting to someone charging at him with a weapon and I don't care about her physical prowess or her age. It's still a threat.

In previous posts you kept bringing up her mental disability or whatever as if it really matters in this particular case. You also kept bringing up that she's an old fat woman. As if that would help a guy feel safer in that situation lmao. It doesn't matter, she's a danger.
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
Oh no, someone didn't understand the exact context I was specifying on the Internet. So stupid, and hence autistic. Good one. As I said, nice projection. You do argue like a libtard though, try to make the other person feel bad for having a different opinion.
TFW you're projecting your own argument style onto me (calling me a wk ******* for having an opinion), yet I'm the 'libtard who tries to make people feel bad for having a different opinion'.

Not even going to bother with you, buddy. I've already shown you that we're on the same page, and yet you still nitpick and act like a hypocrite. Next time you argue with someone, fuking understand their position better before you open your mouth, saying the same thing they're saying but wording it like you thought of it first.
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
do u have a gun within hands reach 100% of the time?

didn't think so boyo
I'm going to add a pinch of perspective from my POV.

I'm an RN and a couple years ago a woman threw a chair threw a window and grabbed a shard of glass and started wielding it as a weapon, endangering the lives the staff/patients. She was in her 40's, kinda fat and slow. It took 6 males to detain her (3 of us with extensive martial arts training) and two of us got slashed and required stitches on the arms. Why? Because we were treating her like "an old slow woman" and trying not to hurt her because it's a hospital and we were risking our lives to save our jobs. An old fat woman going full bore while you're trying not to cause harm is a recipe for both people getting hurt.

I already had context and respect for what cops do on a daily basis and what they put up with, but that added to it.
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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
I'm going to add a pinch of perspective from my POV.

I'm an RN and a couple years ago a woman threw a chair threw a window and grabbed a shard of glass and started wielding it as a weapon, endangering the lives the staff/patients. She was in her 40's, kinda fat and slow. It took 6 males to detain her (3 of us with extensive martial arts training) and two of us got slashed and required stitches on the arms. Why? Because we were treating her like "an old slow woman" and trying not to hurt her because it's a hospital and we were risking our lives to save our jobs. An old fat woman going full bore while you're trying not to cause harm is a recipe for both people getting hurt.

I already had context and respect for what cops do on a daily basis and what they put up with, but that added to it.
That's a good point but you probably weren't trying to put a smack down on the patient.

Any amount of force would be preferable to shooting her dead. Once you start hitting a fat old lady with a night stick she is gonna drop her knife instantly.
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
lol if you can't handle a fat old lady with a knife then you definitely don't need to be a police officer...
nice bait
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
You seem the type to claim he supports the troops but would then label someone who served as a 'criminal' when they snapped.

Or would you defend that person, stating their mental illness caused them to behave like that? I wonder..


you cant even form a cohesive argument that makes sense
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A little more persepective:

I was cop for 3 years. 2 in the south and 1 in Cali. Just changed jobs because 1) better pay and 2) seen two gruesome crime scenes involving kids in a month and I was done.

As far as training goes, an officer is taught to not discriminate against what he/she feels is dangerous. A person with a meat cleaver is dangerous, no matter the situation. If it were me, I've always been a taser first cop but there is risk in that. Tasers don't always down people and sometimes they straight up malfunction. This officer is completely justified in firing his weapon without question.

Cops deal with the absolute most shady and dangerous people daily. People that regular folks don't have to deal with. To sit there and question an officer in that situation is fuking ridiculous because half of you would chit your pants if a suspect tried to take your gun, came at you with a cleaver, or even started acting weird.

Get some perspective or please STFU. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
That's a good point but you probably weren't trying to put a smack down on the patient.

Any amount of force would be preferable to shooting her dead. Once you start hitting a fat old lady with a night stick she is gonna drop her knife instantly.
No, we weren't trying to lay the smack down... that's my point. We were trying not to hurt her, go half-assed, etc., which is inherently dangerous with anyone, God forbid if they have deadly force.

We're not going to see eye to eye on that. If I'm a police officer and I am presented with deadly force, then try to get cute like you're describing and someone ends up getting hurt? You have to make split second decisions when faced with deadly force and you can't prioritize the life of the crazy individual waving a meat cleaver over that of the potential victims.

Not from my perspective, anyway. If worst case scenario on both ends of the spectrum happen, which is A. officer shoots and kills woman and B. woman kills/maims an innocent victim scenario B will have me questioning the officer's decision making much more than A.
Originally Posted By deepfat⏩
A little more persepective:

I was cop for 3 years. 2 in the south and 1 in Cali. Just changed jobs because 1) better pay and 2) seen two gruesome crime scenes involving kids in a month and I was done.

As far as training goes, an officer is taught to not discriminate against what he/she feels is dangerous. A person with a meat cleaver is dangerous, no matter the situation. If it were me, I've always been a taser first cop but there is risk in that. Tasers don't always down people and sometimes they straight up malfunction. This officer is completely justified in firing his weapon without question.

Cops deal with the absolute most shady and dangerous people daily. People that regular folks don't have to deal with. To sit there and question an officer in that situation is fuking ridiculous because half of you would chit your pants if a suspect tried to take your gun, came at you with a cleaver, or even started acting weird.

Get some perspective or please STFU. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
This. If you tried tasering her and it didn't work/malfunctioned/etc., and she hacked my loved one... my question to you as an officer would bewhy did you prioritize her life over my loved one?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
you cant even form a cohesive argument that makes sense
Argument: Your understanding of mental health is poor since you label a person having an episode a 'criminal' in a very dismissive way like the military uses 'insurgent'. You also saying that I'm 'defending criminals' for being of the opinion that he could have done more to help her and not killed her (since she's basically like a trapped animal running on instinct and a state of delusion) is reaching, and I wondered if you'd have the same opinion had it been a veteran shot dead in the video and I was saying 'they should have done more to help him, he was delusional".

point is 10/10, but you can deflect if you'd like.
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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
No, we weren't trying to lay the smack down... that's my point. We were trying not to hurt her, go half-assed, etc., which is inherently dangerous with anyone, God forbid if they have deadly force.
No, I think you're confused because that's MY point. If you were to use any amount of pain compliance it wouldn't take multiple people to deal with a fat old lady.

The cop on the other hand would be completely justified punching the bitch in the face or whatever else he needs to do. Obviously if you were to do that at a hospital you would be sued and fired.
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic⏩
No, I think you're confused because that's MY point. If you were to use any amount of pain compliance it wouldn't take multiple people to deal with a fat old lady.

The cop on the other hand would be completely justified punching the bitch in the face or whatever else he needs to do. Obviously if you were to do that at a hospital you would be sued and fired.
I see. But...you're saying the officer should start hand-to-hand sparring with a woman with a meat cleaver? Baton v. cleaver? That doesn't seem like unnecessary risk to you?

God forbid family or bystanders get involvedagainstthe officer, for example?
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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
No, we weren't trying to lay the smack down... that's my point. We were trying not to hurt her, go half-assed, etc., which is inherently dangerous with anyone, God forbid if they have deadly force.

We're not going to see eye to eye on that. If I'm a police officer and I am presented with deadly force, then try to get cute like you're describing and someone ends up getting hurt? You have to make split second decisions when faced with deadly force and you can't prioritize the life of the crazy individual waving a meat cleaver over that of the potential victims.

Not from my perspective, anyway. If worst case scenario on both ends of the spectrum happen, which is A. officer shoots and kills woman and B. woman kills/maims an innocent victim scenario B will have me questioning the officer's decision making much more than A.



This. If you tried tasering her and it didn't work/malfunctioned/etc., and she hacked my loved one... my question to you as an officer would bewhy did you prioritize her life over my loved one?
That's EXACTLY what would happen in an after action report. That cop would be fired or worse. Dept would be sued and most of all someone innocent is dead. Someone wielding a meat cleaver and not standing down has to be stopped. Too many variables.
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Originally Posted By deepfat⏩
That's EXACTLY what would happen in an after action report. That cop would be fired or worse. Dept would be sued and most of all someone innocent is dead. Someone wielding a meat cleaver and not standing down has to be stopped. Too many variables.
I totally agree. Murphy's law man. This isn't a movie -- people don't drop instantly with a gunshot, people may be on uppers, you could slip and fall in a damn puddle... you don't take more risks just in case you can save the life of someone who is acting crazy and displaying deadly force against someone. It just isn't prudent.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
Argument: Your understanding of mental health is poor since you label a person having an episode a 'criminal' in a very dismissive way like the military uses 'insurgent'. You also saying that I'm 'defending criminals' for being of the opinion that he could have done more to help her and not killed her (since she's basically like a trapped animal running on instinct and a state of delusion) is reaching, and I wondered if you'd have the same opinion had it been a veteran shot dead in the video and I was saying 'they should have done more to help him, he was delusional".

point is 10/10, but you can deflect if you'd like.
a criminal is someone who commits a crime regardless of mental state, mentally ill do not get some sort of pass for chit sake

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
a criminal is someone who commits a crime regardless of mental state, mentally ill do not get some sort of pass for chit sake


Nobody's saying she gets a pass, since I already said he was justified in shooting her.

Not sure if trolling me, or actually this dumb. I'll assume both and just block you.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
a criminal is someone who commits a crime regardless of mental state... mentally ill do not get some sort of pass for chit sake.
Wut dat mean "mens rea"?
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩


Nobody's saying she gets a pass, since I already said he was justified in shooting her.

Not sure if trolling me, or actually this dumb. I'll assume both and just block you.
He is.

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