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05-24-2016, 03:35 PM
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It's cool that OP backed his claims, but it's still pretty ignorant to hate on sumo and assume it magically makes you 100 lbs stronger. It doesn't.
It's still pretty difficult. I do both, and my sumo is only 10 lbs more than my conventional. But I bet I could get my conventional to match it pretty quickly.
Don't knock something til you try it.
It's still pretty difficult. I do both, and my sumo is only 10 lbs more than my conventional. But I bet I could get my conventional to match it pretty quickly.
Don't knock something til you try it.
350 lift it *******
05-24-2016, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Stickyashell⏩
I don't cosign that arch chit. A little bit yeah, but that full arch where you have a 2 inch rom is gay AFIn with Bobby on this. I can pull about 513 sumo and about 500 in a regular deadlift, but I intentionally built my sumo because I find it interesting. Its just and awesome lifts. I pull both ways (one week I pull a sumo variation, the other - a conventional one).
If you prefer conventional - its fine. But I dont get hating on someone who decides to pull something that requires more technique and can move more weight because of that.
In my opinion its like hating on a person who can bench more by using an arch. Powerlifting is about moving more weight - period. And thats the main goal. Doesnt matter how you do it.
If you prefer conventional - its fine. But I dont get hating on someone who decides to pull something that requires more technique and can move more weight because of that.
In my opinion its like hating on a person who can bench more by using an arch. Powerlifting is about moving more weight - period. And thats the main goal. Doesnt matter how you do it.
05-24-2016, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By ****tastic⏩
I was only half srs.It's cool that OP backed his claims, but it's still pretty ignorant to hate on sumo and assume it magically makes you 100 lbs stronger. It doesn't.
It's still pretty difficult. I do both, and my sumo is only 10 lbs more than my conventional. But I bet I could get my conventional to match it pretty quickly.
Don't knock something til you try it.
It's still pretty difficult. I do both, and my sumo is only 10 lbs more than my conventional. But I bet I could get my conventional to match it pretty quickly.
Don't knock something til you try it.
Ed coan is my face powerlifter of all time and he did both. I will always prefer conventional but you guys do your thang. Not a fan of it but end of the day we're all lifting some heavy was weight and getting jacked
05-24-2016, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako⏩
this.I actually would love to see op do 5 plates for six reps conventional, and then add 50-100 pounds and do sumo, and knock that out of the park since "it is so much easier"
Inb4 op falls over pulling sumo because 0 technique.
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05-24-2016, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Nosferatu187⏩
I do? Lol. I'm kinda glad I filmed it because I never realised my starting position was like that. Looks odd to me, like I feel I should be sitting lower into it.you can also tell from that video why he hates sumo.
he has the perfect mechanics for conventional deadlift.
he has the perfect mechanics for conventional deadlift.
Originally Posted By MantissToboggan⏩
lol i know where youre coming from man. Svery girl looks damn near the same...bunch of sheep's tbh that just follow the trend.repped OP, even before i knew you posted lifting evidence
i get it some people lift sumo bc they may have individual issues, but i swear that 90% of people (99% of them girls) that lift sumo are IG "fitness models" that lift sumo bc tit lets them lift more
i fukking cringe everytime
i get it some people lift sumo bc they may have individual issues, but i swear that 90% of people (99% of them girls) that lift sumo are IG "fitness models" that lift sumo bc tit lets them lift more
i fukking cringe everytime
05-24-2016, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Stickyashell⏩
I'm not gonna adjust to lifting sumo just to prove people wrong. I have tweaked my deadlift form over time, didn't just randomly do it and stick with it. Change things here and there, would take way too long to do the same with sumothis.
Inb4 op falls over pulling sumo because 0 technique.
Inb4 op falls over pulling sumo because 0 technique.
05-24-2016, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
Well I agree - yet its the way the sport evolved. I also find it slightly retarded, but a group of professionals that live and die by the sport have agreed that it counts, so that pbbly means that its about equally as hard.I don't cosign that arch chit. A little bit yeah, but that full arch where you have a 2 inch rom is gay AF
Its like Bill Koch using the "skate skiing" technique, which was, at first, looked at as an incorrect technique yet it got the job done and now about 50% of cross country skiers do it. There will always be someone who does things differently - doesnt mean its easier or worse. It just means that it works better for him and by mastering a different (and in some cases more difficult) technique one can achieve a better result. I think its worth admiring not hating.
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05-25-2016, 07:57 AM
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05-25-2016, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted By MantissToboggan⏩
And what is the problem with that?????? Should they do stiff legged deadlifts instead so they can't lift more? No, the goal is to fukkin lift more so they should use whatever technique that allows them to do that. I don't do sumo but have zero problem with other people doing it. Only reason I do conventional is because for me it works better. If I could lift more with sumo I would. It would be stupid not to use the best technique for your body.lift sumo bc tit lets them lift more
i fukking cringe everytime
i fukking cringe everytime
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05-25-2016, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By scullin⏩
do you agree with the arch rule them we were discussing above? You know where the arch is so pronounced that the Rom is LITERALLY 2 inches.And what is the problem with that?????? Should they do stiff legged deadlifts instead so they can't lift more? No, the goal is to fukkin lift more so they should use whatever technique that allows them to do that. I don't do sumo but have zero problem with other people doing it. Only reason I do conventional is because for me it works better. If I could lift more with sumo I would. It would be stupid not to use the best technique for your body.
05-25-2016, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Stickyashell⏩
ultimately - I hear you man. I think it just depends on the particular technique sometimes. Some chit I agree with, and some chit I don't. i really do hate that arch rule, i could probably do it myself and bench more but id rather not, I don't know man I've always been a honest person with pride that played by the rules. Even in high school id hate/be against using chest codes for games whilst all my mates did. Never used them. Its just embedded in me to do shiit the right way and not look for shortcuts. Always wanted to be the best of the best and do it the right way.Well I agree - yet its the way the sport evolved. I also find it slightly retarded, but a group of professionals that live and die by the sport have agreed that it counts, so that pbbly means that its about equally as hard.
Its like Bill Koch using the "skate skiing" technique, which was, at first, looked at as an incorrect technique yet it got the job done and now about 50% of cross country skiers do it. There will always be someone who does things differently - doesnt mean its easier or worse. It just means that it works better for him and by mastering a different (and in some cases more difficult) technique one can achieve a better result. I think its worth admiring not hating.
Its like Bill Koch using the "skate skiing" technique, which was, at first, looked at as an incorrect technique yet it got the job done and now about 50% of cross country skiers do it. There will always be someone who does things differently - doesnt mean its easier or worse. It just means that it works better for him and by mastering a different (and in some cases more difficult) technique one can achieve a better result. I think its worth admiring not hating.
05-25-2016, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
As long as they are within the rules of the competition it doesn't matter. As far as the 2 inches ROM, same thing happens with really fat guys or guys with really short arm (especially if they're fat and have short arms). I don't have a problem with them or the arching *******s.do you agree with the arch rule them we were discussing above? You know where the arch is so pronounced that the Rom is LITERALLY 2 inches.
Yes I think arching extremely looks retarded as do fat people with T-Rex arms. But it doesn't bother me and I don't think it's cheating to use an arch or to be a short fat guy because....it's not cheating. Only way something is cheating if it is against the rules of a competition.
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05-25-2016, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By scullin⏩
Yeah i know technically it's within the rules, but I think the people who control the rules should enforce rules that dont make the sport look like a joke.As long as they are within the rules of the competition it doesn't matter. As far as the 2 inches ROM, same thing happens with really fat guys or guys with really short arm (especially if they're fat and have short arms). I don't have a problem with them or the arching *******s.
Yes I think arching extremely looks retarded as do fat people with T-Rex arms. But it doesn't bother me and I don't think it's cheating to use an arch or to be a short fat guy because....it's not cheating. Only way something is cheating if it is against the rules of a competition.
Yes I think arching extremely looks retarded as do fat people with T-Rex arms. But it doesn't bother me and I don't think it's cheating to use an arch or to be a short fat guy because....it's not cheating. Only way something is cheating if it is against the rules of a competition.
I understand logically you're right, and being fair, but I just think it's gay. Like i said earlier it feels as though the sport has just reached a point where people find a legal loop hole and take advantage. But each to his own.
05-25-2016, 08:48 AM
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hate the youtube vids or instagram pages of just phggts doing deadlifts
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05-25-2016, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
Then they should ban fat guys with t-rex arms too. I'm OK with that. lolYeah i know technically it's within the rules, but I think the people who control the rules should enforce rules that dont make the sport look like a joke.
I understand logically you're right, and being fair, but I just think it's gay. Like i said earlier it feels as though the sport has just reached a point where people find a legal loop hole and take advantage. But each to his own.
I understand logically you're right, and being fair, but I just think it's gay. Like i said earlier it feels as though the sport has just reached a point where people find a legal loop hole and take advantage. But each to his own.
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05-25-2016, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By solidus2k3⏩
Semi agree. People saturate the **** out of those sites with every lift they do. Id only post something worth discussing if I were to post my chit on there, not just constantly post all the fukin time for the sake of ithate the youtube vids or instagram pages of just phggts doing deadlifts
05-25-2016, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By scullin⏩
lolz. I don't want to be that dismissive, but I don't feel I should ever have to look at certain lifts in a sport and feel disinterested and slightly let down. That's the feeling I get sometimes and just sigh.Then they should ban fat guys with t-rex arms too. I'm OK with that. lol
05-25-2016, 09:02 AM
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I used to think like this too OP until I tried sumo. I was expecting to lift way more but I actually pull more conventional. I just started pulling sumo though so we'll see if this changes after a few weeks. Sumo just feels a lot better given my body's morphology. I have relatively short arms and long legs so it's basically impossible for me to pull conventional without a little bit of rounding.
Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
They should just make them unrack the bar without a spotter. Would probably stop people from using extreme arches to abuse the rules like that.Yeah i know technically it's within the rules, but I think the people who control the rules should enforce rules that dont make the sport look like a joke.
I understand logically you're right, and being fair, but I just think it's gay. Like i said earlier it feels as though the sport has just reached a point where people find a legal loop hole and take advantage. But each to his own.
I understand logically you're right, and being fair, but I just think it's gay. Like i said earlier it feels as though the sport has just reached a point where people find a legal loop hole and take advantage. But each to his own.
05-25-2016, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By jaybc⏩
Do what cha gotta do mane. And yeah I think it should be revised and discussed. I'd like to see some changes to powerlifting, I feel it isnt known or appreciated enough as other/similar sports.I used to think like this too OP until I tried sumo. I was expecting to lift way more but I actually pull more conventional. I just started pulling sumo though so we'll see if this changes after a few weeks. Sumo just feels a lot better given my body's morphology. I have relatively short arms and long legs so it's basically impossible for me to pull conventional without a little bit of rounding.
They should just make them unrack the bar without a spotter. Would probably stop people from using extreme arches to abuse the rules like that.
They should just make them unrack the bar without a spotter. Would probably stop people from using extreme arches to abuse the rules like that.
05-25-2016, 09:49 AM
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05-25-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako⏩
Its all good brah don't worry bout the reps. Just feels good to have peoples respect now.Reps on rc for proving ur lift, good job
But u are still wrong about the sumo stance
But u are still wrong about the sumo stance
Conventional and sumo can coexist. Conventional is my love but you sumo brahs do your thang!
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