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Thread: McDonald's CEO drops the truth on min wage workers

post 1444078611 05-25-2016, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By BieberFeverBrah⏩
And therein lies the fundamental flaw of capitalism. Efficiency at all costs, even when it destroys us from the inside out.
That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That's like saying the invention of cars took the jobs from all the stable boys, so let's get rid of cars and just bring back horses. Justice for stable boys!
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post 1444080221 05-25-2016, 08:42 AM
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$15 an hour for making burgers?

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post 1444080811 05-25-2016, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By stevedarsh⏩
That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That's like saying the invention of cars took the jobs from all the stable boys, so let's get rid of cars and just bring back horses. Justice for stable boys!
what about type writer manufacturers?!?!?!
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post 1444081001 05-25-2016, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Dhboy⏩
$15 an hour for making burgers?

LOL
Making burgers is very important as the service supports people doing more complex things in society.
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post 1444081271 05-25-2016, 08:48 AM
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Pretty smart.

Good luck convincing a robot you want extra sauce
Will the icecream machine still be broken?
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post 1444081881 05-25-2016, 08:52 AM
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post 1444083331 05-25-2016, 09:00 AM
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can't wait to be able to hack into the mainframe, reprogram the robots and get them to throw an extra patty on my burger for free.
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post 1444083471 05-25-2016, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
lol that robot just made the perfect burger

thats the beauty of robot programming right there. the program is prolly called big mac too
Gonna need proof you aren't frauding. What are you writing your AI in? What are you automating? Spoon pic some of your code.
post 1444084521 05-25-2016, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Anyone who thinks mass automation is anywhere close to being near is crazy. How much money is Mcdonalds going to lose when the machine ****s up in rush hour and they are getting 0 food out? What about when the machines calibration is off by a little bit and it doesn't cook the food to standard temps? Lol pls go with this talk.
These examples happen all the time already, with people. Machines would literally cut down on every problem you listed.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
He is a moron.

A moron is a person who appears smart but lacks insight and causes disaster in the long run.

If automaton replaces low wage employees, then who will buy his burgers?

People like him will bankrupt a whole segment of the population, that will increase the draw on welfare, that will drain more money from the middle class, and cause a greater loss of funds, and destroy our civilization more than it is. The cost is far greater than giving workers a raise.

People like this aren't "economical" or capitalists, they're morons.
this

surprise, surprise mcdonalds is being run into the ground

annoys me to see misc dickriding these incompetent turds

but miscers are all gonna be CEO's too so they gotta support the brothers who made it
post 1444084821 05-25-2016, 09:09 AM
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I was thinking yesterday, this makes me happy. I hate dealing with people when I go buy food/gas etc, I just wanna buy my chit and leave. Not because I'm socially inept but because I just get annoyed by 5 questions

"Is that all today".....no man actually, I'm gonna go back and look around some more
"Do you want xyz for an extra $1"...no I just want what I came here to buy
"Want to donate $1 for hungry miscers?"....no thanks, yes I'm a horrible person
"Want a receipt?"......
"Nice weather we're having isn't it?"

Ok finally I was able to purchase my phucking flesh light
post 1444086181 05-25-2016, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted By jujuB⏩
automation won't be within food processing any time soon, IMO.

for now, it'll just be self ordering kiosks. they can cut down the number of employees by upwards of 5+ if everyone is using machines to place their order.

food runners and food makers will be able to get a raise, due to the decreased number of people taking peoples orders and it'll make the MCD experience better, more accurate, and faster.
people seem to be conflating robotics with AI, the latter is seeing massive strides and more adoption in mainstream industries. The former?



not so much...
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Originally Posted By ThePumpmaster⏩
That's actually not true at all. Efficiency is never a bad thing. Without government intervention, the price of goods and services would actually FALL over time. You could save money under your mattress and it would actually increase in value (in terms of purchasing power) year after year.
Jobs are jobs though, and when we lay off 50% of the workforce, what will they be doing? the economic model will need to shift but it will need to crash before it does
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post 1444093631 05-25-2016, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
So you're basically a McDonalds employee. Noted.
Get off my dick bro. I don't go that way, not interested sorry bud.
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Originally Posted By InfinityThor⏩
Here's Tesla motors:

Now if only Elon could stop getting all his money taken by the same damn sloot
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post 1444094731 05-25-2016, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By celltechbrahz⏩
Why even turn the lights on?
Even if the robots are doing the job the lights need to be on for the employees to maintain them and do maintenance and chit like that. Automation/Mechatronics engineers/techs, Robot programmers, etc.
Originally Posted By jujuB⏩
yeah, in producing foods for retail.

someone wants fries, no salt. or a cheeseburger no ketchup. it would be an extremely expensive machine that has to make those changes in an assembly line style. no franchise owner would be able to afford that type of thing. it still has to be handled by an employee.
Not really. It is pretty easy to write conditions in the program for pretty much any circumstance.

They'll most likely put the salt in let's say bin 2 and if the customer hits the button for no salt it creates a condition in the robot to not go to bin 2 for instance. Pretty easy.

I don't know how McDonalds works and how they salt them but they could make it work regardless of the circumstances.

There would have to be a tech or two though looking after the robots and chit.
Originally Posted By BDub85⏩
Gonna need proof you aren't frauding. What are you writing your AI in? What are you automating? Spoon pic some of your code.
I don't write AI. I do robot programming which is structured text based programming and PLC which is ladder logic based programming. I work mostly in the automotive industry (live by the Motor City so it's big over here).
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Medicine will not be fully automated, because that is simply impossible. hehe



I fully welcome automation. When they placed those coffee kiosks in Costco, Windco, and malls hnggg. Time for McDonalds to move in the correct direction.
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Originally Posted By InfinityThor⏩
Here's Tesla motors:

be the guy designing the robots, writing the software, engineering the cars, etc, not the guy assembling them.
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Even if the robots are doing the job the lights need to be on for the employees to maintain them and do maintenance and chit like that. Automation/Mechatronics engineers/techs, Robot programmers, etc.



Not really. It is pretty easy to write conditions in the program for pretty much any circumstance.

They'll most likely put the salt in let's say bin 2 and if the customer hits the button for no salt it creates a condition in the robot to not go to bin 2 for instance. Pretty easy.

I don't know how McDonalds works and how they salt them but they could make it work regardless of the circumstances.

There would have to be a tech or two though looking after the robots and chit.



I don't write AI. I do robot programming which is structured text based programming and PLC which is ladder logic based programming. I work mostly in the automotive industry (live by the Motor City so it's big over here).
putting that to real world use is a completely different ball game.

there isn't a single bin for fries with salt, and fries with no salt. people rarely get it without salt, but it happens. they make a fresh batch when people order it with no salt. if you had one with no salt it would just sit and go bad. its not efficient to have machines do tasks like that.

it isn't that easy and they'll always be a need for employees no matter what. it already costs 2 million dollars, and making machines operate everything will only cost upwards of another million dollars more, which extends their ROI by maybe a decade. at that point, it's not even a good investment to own a franchise.

automation will come with food ordering kiosks, and allowing food makers to prep food faster. that's about as far as it gets with fast food industry.
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Originally Posted By RectalDreams⏩
you're a retard. i could list a million examples, but heres an easy one, construction. please explain how robots will take over, and use actual logic, not fairy tale reasoning, like "robots are smarter than people durrrr"
Half my job is figuring out how to solve a problem caused by an engineer. You would think they would be able to run everything through a program to see if there are issues they didnt notice but no we will be putting a pipe in and realize the pipe runs right into a piece of structural steel that holds the entire building up.
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Anyone who is against automation for fear of job losses is completely retarded. Humans always make advancements, we cut out the unnecessary labor and make our entire ecosystem more efficient and productive. As a result, the entire society is wealthier and has a higher quality of life.

Just lol at people against automation of jobs; literally only thinking about short term negatives with zero foresight - but I guess that's all you can expect from low IQ populations.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Anyone who is against automation for fear of job losses is completely retarded. Humans always make advancements, we cut out the unnecessary labor and make our entire ecosystem more efficient and productive. As a result, the entire society is wealthier and has a higher quality of life.

Just lol at people against automation of jobs; literally only thinking about short term negatives with zero foresight - but I guess that's all you can expect from low IQ populations.
You forget about the simple fact that it WILL cut jobs out. Not everyone has a high enough IQ to make robots or operate them. And while I don't care about McDonalds employees less jobs = less spending. When everyone is making money the economy is thriving.
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So when McDonalds lays off all their minimum wage workers, where will their customer base come from...?

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Originally Posted By MirinGrains⏩
You forget about the simple fact that it WILL cut jobs out. Not everyone has a high enough IQ to make robots or operate them. And while I don't care about McDonalds employees less jobs = less spending. When everyone is making money the economy is thriving.
So because there's a few idiots that are incapable of performing skilled work, all of society should stop advancing?

If that logic was followed, we'd still be using horses and carts, have scribes instead of printers, more postmen instead of email, people washing for hours instead of washing machines.
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hope they program the robots to spit on the burgers, otherwise it jsut wouldn't be the same you know
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If they pay burger flippers $15/hr, follow the dollar. McDonalds fronts the cost, but the customer ultimately pays the price. The increase in wages will not hit McDonalds bottom line.

So who here is going to pay $5 for a Big Mac, or $10 for a value meal?
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Originally Posted By Pinot⏩
If they pay burger flippers $15/hr, follow the dollar. McDonalds fronts the cost, but the customer ultimately pays the price. The increase in wages will not hit McDonalds bottom line.

So who here is going to pay $5 for a Big Mac, or $10 for a value meal?
It WILL come from their bottom line because they will make less sales. People will stop being lazy and make their own burgers for 1/2 the price. They are better off by taking less margins to increase sales.
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Originally Posted By dizzin9⏩
it won't be the same without the special sauce from a disgruntled worker
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So when McDonalds lays off all their minimum wage workers, where will their customer base come from...?

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