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post 1689211213 08-30-2023, 09:53 AM
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picking 5 in my home league and im torn between Kelce/Kupp/Hill. Obviously I take Chase if he falls. JJ/CMC both gone for sure. Im out on Ekler this year. PPR league. 2/2/flex.

Can anyone give a valid argument as to why not take Kelce at 5, then run wr/rb in the next 5-6 rounds?
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
picking 5 in my home league and im torn between Kelce/Kupp/Hill. Obviously I take Chase if he falls. JJ/CMC both gone for sure. Im out on Ekler this year. PPR league. 2/2/flex.

Can anyone give a valid argument as to why not take Kelce at 5, then run wr/rb in the next 5-6 rounds?
Maybe this year age catches up with him? Maybe you aren’t confident you can get PM for the point stack?

Personally I like Hill in your spot
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
picking 5 in my home league and im torn between Kelce/Kupp/Hill. Obviously I take Chase if he falls. JJ/CMC both gone for sure. Im out on Ekler this year. PPR league. 2/2/flex.

Can anyone give a valid argument as to why not take Kelce at 5, then run wr/rb in the next 5-6 rounds?
Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Maybe this year age catches up with him? Maybe you aren’t confident you can get PM for the point stack?

Personally I like Hill in your spot
Either Hill or Kelce is fine there. My ranking algorithm has JJ first, CMC second, and Kelce third, although I think I'd actually take Chase over CMC and Kelce in an actual draft. Either way, though, there is no reason to believe Kelce would be a bad pick at 5.
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
picking 5 in my home league and im torn between Kelce/Kupp/Hill. Obviously I take Chase if he falls. JJ/CMC both gone for sure. Im out on Ekler this year. PPR league. 2/2/flex.

Can anyone give a valid argument as to why not take Kelce at 5, then run wr/rb in the next 5-6 rounds?
nope, he's the best TE by far so it's a no brainer at that position unless JJ/CMC falls to you but i doubt it.
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Locked into what I am doing at #1 tonight…the problem is what to do at 24/25….mock drafts are all over the place with this spot, pretty hard to plan for. All I know is highly unlikely to be QB or TE.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Locked into what I am doing at #1 tonight…the problem is what to do at 24/25….mock drafts are all over the place with this spot, pretty hard to plan for. All I know is highly unlikely to be QB or TE.
I usually like the WR's that are available in rounds 4 and higher a whole lot more than the RB's that are available in those rounds. That is why I'd probably be looking at best available RB's for 24 and 25, then WR's at the Round 4/5 turn, but it all depends on how the board falls too. Especially assuming you are taking WR at number 1.
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Originally Posted By sandcar3⏩
I usually like the WR's that are available in rounds 4 and higher a whole lot more than the RB's that are available in those rounds. That is why I'd probably be looking at best available RB's for 24 and 25, then WR's at the Round 4/5 turn, but it all depends on how the board falls too. Especially assuming you are taking WR at number 1.
Good point. At that spot it’s going to be finding the committee guys that get the most touches
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Originally Posted By sandcar3⏩
I usually like the WR's that are available in rounds 4 and higher a whole lot more than the RB's that are available in those rounds. That is why I'd probably be looking at best available RB's for 24 and 25, then WR's at the Round 4/5 turn, but it all depends on how the board falls too. Especially assuming you are taking WR at number 1.
This year, there are typically far better choices for RBs in the traditional "RB dead zone" than there normally are:

Aaron Jones
Javonte Williams
Ken Walker
James Cook
Dameon Pierce
Rachaad White
Miles Sanders
Dalvin Cook

All of these guys are usually available at the 48/49 turn, so there should be a choice of them. At the 24/25 turn, the RBs I like are Najee Harris or Josh Jacobs (although he might be going earlier now that he signed) or Rhamondre Stevenson. The WRs to target there are Devonta Smith, Tee Higgins, DK Metcalf, or Calvin Ridley.

Personally, given those choice, I'd rather take the WRs at the 24/25 turn (i.e. Smith & Ridley or something) and then two of the RBs at the next one.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Locked into what I am doing at #1 tonight…the problem is what to do at 24/25….mock drafts are all over the place with this spot, pretty hard to plan for. All I know is highly unlikely to be QB or TE.
I find it hard to pass on Allen or Hurts in that spot if they're available. Hurts + Smith is a really good stack if you want one.

Don't like the RBs in that range unless you get lucky and one of the top 8 drop there. Don't think you need to go 3 WRs to start since there's so many good ones available later.
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Originally Posted By WHChampion⏩
I find it hard to pass on Allen or Hurts in that spot if they're available. Hurts + Smith is a really good stack if you want one.

Don't like the RBs in that range unless you get lucky and one of the top 8 drop there. Don't think you need to go 3 WRs to start since there's so many good ones available later.
I remember when everyone used to hit QB later because they all scored the same after the first couple. Not sure if that strategy gets promoted as much anymore, personally I have gone gun QB and really like the look of my team. And as you said plenty of decent wrs later and the rbs get sketchy quick. Also a gun QB is money, high likelihood of delivery good points, whereas much more chance of volatility with other positions.
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Well I don’t particularly care for how my draft unfolded, kept waiting for the right value at QB/TE then they were all gone. Hopefully my Sunday draft turns out better..

QB Jones
RB Conner
RB White
WR Jefferson
WR Olave
TE Dulcich
Flex Higgins
K Carlson
DST Philly
Bn sanders
BN zeke
BN Dotson
BN London
BN Penny

Espn ranks my draft 9/12 lol.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Well I don’t particularly care for how my draft unfolded, kept waiting for the right value at QB/TE then they were all gone. Hopefully my Sunday draft turns out better..

QB Jones
RB Conner
RB White
WR Jefferson
WR Olave
TE Dulcich
Flex Higgins
K Carlson
DST Philly
Bn sanders
BN zeke
BN Dotson
BN London
BN Penny

Espn ranks my draft 9/12 lol.
solid team. i think jones is a durable qb though you should probly cut penny and look for streaming qb. olave and dotson could have break out season since m.thomas isnt the same and mclaurin is injured. upgrade TE if any available. yahoo rankings usually sucks lol
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Well I don’t particularly care for how my draft unfolded, kept waiting for the right value at QB/TE then they were all gone. Hopefully my Sunday draft turns out better..

QB Jones
RB Conner
RB White
WR Jefferson
WR Olave
TE Dulcich
Flex Higgins
K Carlson
DST Philly
Bn sanders
BN zeke
BN Dotson
BN London
BN Penny

Espn ranks my draft 9/12 lol.
Jones is a fine QB for picking late. He was top 10 last year. I agree with the guy above that you should probably look to drop Penny for a second QB or look for breakouts during the season.
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Originally Posted By Miscbob⏩
I remember when everyone used to hit QB later because they all scored the same after the first couple. Not sure if that strategy gets promoted as much anymore, personally I have gone gun QB and really like the look of my team. And as you said plenty of decent wrs later and the rbs get sketchy quick. Also a gun QB is money, high likelihood of delivery good points, whereas much more chance of volatility with other positions.
It depends as much on the league setup as anything else. My draft earlier this week has 6 pt passing TDs, 0.04 pts/passing yd (1 pt per 25), and bonuses for 300 and 400 yard games. This puts more weight on QBs in that league, and I drafted Mahomes in the 2nd. I have a draft tonight with 4 pt passing TDs, 0.02 passing pts (pt per 50), and bonuses for 50 yd TD runs/catches (but not throws). In this league, QBs are kind of worthless (which is a little sad since they are so important in IRL football...), and grabbing a couple guys who are at least entrenched starters in round 10+ is fine, and the most valuable QBs are the ones who are glorified RBs like Lamar or Fields rather than Mahomes or Herbert.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Jones is a fine QB for picking late. He was top 10 last year. I agree with the guy above that you should probably look to drop Penny for a second QB or look for breakouts during the season.
Nobody drafted A. Richardson…would you make that swap now?

My thoughts were penny should get the miles sanders work from last year, but he has his own injury issues
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Nobody drafted A. Richardson…would you make that swap now?

My thoughts were penny should get the miles sanders work from last year, but he has his own injury issues
All the talk from the Philly beat writers has been about how Kenny Gainwell will be more involved this year. Between that and Penny's inability to finish any season healthy, I'm not looking for him at all.

I'd take a shot at Richardson for sure. He's a complete wild card, but he has league winning upside if it does click for him because he'll be the RB1 there as well, and it looks like Indy is going to give him all the leash he needs. I would NOT under any circumstances draft him as a QB1, but as an end-of-bench dart throw, he's ideal. Give him a month to see how ugly it is, and it's no problem to drop him and move on if it's clear he's in way over his head.
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My work league is so random, but I just finished up that draft, no PPR, 5 point passing TDs, point per 25 passing, bonus at 300/400 yards, standard otherwise with bonuses at 100/200 rushing and receiving yards.

QB: Herbert
WR: Hill
WR: Davante Adams
RB: Henry
TE: Kittle
W/R/T: D. Pierce (Houston)
K: McPherson
D: Cincy
BN: Rachaad White
BN: Christian Watson
BN: Anthony Richardson

Only took Richardson because I've been joking with a guy I was going to have him all season.
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Luckily it's the most donkey league I play in, while being the most expensive. My team sucked last year after the draft and I was able to finish 2nd anyway.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
My work league is so random, but I just finished up that draft, no PPR, 5 point passing TDs, point per 25 passing, bonus at 300/400 yards, standard otherwise with bonuses at 100/200 rushing and receiving yards.

QB: Herbert
WR: Hill
WR: Davante Adams
RB: Henry
TE: Kittle
W/R/T: D. Pierce (Houston)
K: McPherson
D: Cincy
BN: Rachaad White
BN: Christian Watson
BN: Anthony Richardson

Only took Richardson because I've been joking with a guy I was going to have him all season.
How many teams? Your team looks pretty decent. Very short benches.
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Originally Posted By komputerguy⏩
glad this thread is active again!
what's the strategy for 2 QB league? .5ppr. qb gets bonus points for 40yds pass/td. 2/3
lawrence,purdy,picket(qb flex)
aj brown, deebo,dotson,nico collins
chubb,j.cook,harris,moster
pitts
jags/ravens(defense gets a lot of points such as 2 for tfl/4th down stop,sacks)

not sure how i did lol i took deebo over ridley in panic. i'm only going to play qb at flex
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
My work league is so random, but I just finished up that draft, no PPR, 5 point passing TDs, point per 25 passing, bonus at 300/400 yards, standard otherwise with bonuses at 100/200 rushing and receiving yards.

QB: Herbert
WR: Hill
WR: Davante Adams
RB: Henry
TE: Kittle
W/R/T: D. Pierce (Houston)
K: McPherson
D: Cincy
BN: Rachaad White
BN: Christian Watson
BN: Anthony Richardson

Only took Richardson because I've been joking with a guy I was going to have him all season.
8 team league? That’s a pretty loaded roster
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Well I dropped Dulcich in favor of C. Okonkwo. Sounds like Sean Payton is in favor of trautman due to his blocking ability, and hopefully the burks injury and PA passing game in Tennessee make this the right move.

Don’t be like me and have your TE as you last pick before your K and DST in a 12 team league
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Well I dropped Dulcich in favor of C. Okonkwo. Sounds like Sean Payton is in favor of trautman due to his blocking ability, and hopefully the burks injury and PA passing game in Tennessee make this the right move.

Don’t be like me and have your TE as you last pick before your K and DST in a 12 team league
It's just a matter of opinion between Chigi and Dulcich as a backup TE since they are both young with potential in shaky situations, but I'll take Dulcich. Yes, Trautman is the "starter" because of his blocking and familiarity with Payton's system, but I still think Dulcich will be utilized a lot in the passing game. Jeudy, Patrick, and Hamler are hurt, Sutton is mid, Mims is a rookie, and Trautman is not a passing game weapon, so they almost have to use Dulcich in the passing game.

I trust Russ and Payton in Denver's offense a LOT more than Tanny and Vrabel in Tennessee's.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
It's just a matter of opinion between Chigi and Dulcich as a backup TE since they are both young with potential in shaky situations, but I'll take Dulcich. Yes, Trautman is the "starter" because of his blocking and familiarity with Payton's system, but I still think Dulcich will be utilized a lot in the passing game. Jeudy, Patrick, and Hamler are hurt, Sutton is mid, Mims is a rookie, and Trautman is not a passing game weapon, so they almost have to use Dulcich in the passing game.

I trust Russ and Payton in Denver's offense a LOT more than Tanny and Vrabel in Tennessee's.
Yeah I don’t think I’ve settled at all on this spot for week 1 just yet, everyone available is a total dart throw (these two, Hurst, Knox, smith, otton, geiseke, Kincaid, Musgrave, juwan Johnson )…one of these guys will hit just have to get it right
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Yeah I don’t think I’ve settled at all on this spot for week 1 just yet, everyone available is a total dart throw (these two, Hurst, Knox, smith, otton, geiseke, Kincaid, Musgrave, juwan Johnson )…one of these guys will hit just have to get it right
Looking back at your roster, I'd consider grabbing two of these guys (and dropping Zeke assuming you already dropped Penny for AR). I'd take Dulcich and one of the rookies Kincaid or Musgrave, probably Kincaid. Like AR, Kincaid is obviously far, far from a sure thing, but if he does hit, he has league winning upside, so that makes him an ideal bench stash.
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Had my yearly snake draft last night. 12 team, 6pt pass tds, ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1WRT/K/D

Tua
Hill, Kupp, Ridley, Higgins
Mattison, Javonte, Brian Robinson, Warren, McKinnon, Roschon, Zeke
Goedert
Dicker
Saints

Couldn't pass up on Kupp at 2.06 or Higgins at 4.06. Doing snake just really drives home how bad the dropoff from the first 12-13 RBs is to the rest. No way I was taking dudes like Dobbins or Sanders over Higgins even though he'll probably be on my bench when Kupp is healthy.
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Originally Posted By WHChampion⏩
Had my yearly snake draft last night. 12 team, 6pt pass tds, ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1WRT/K/D

Tua
Hill, Kupp, Ridley, Higgins
Mattison, Javonte, Brian Robinson, Warren, McKinnon, Roschon, Zeke
Goedert
Dicker
Saints

Couldn't pass up on Kupp at 2.06 or Higgins at 4.06. Doing snake just really drives home how bad the dropoff from the first 12-13 RBs is to the rest. No way I was taking dudes like Dobbins or Sanders over Higgins even though he'll probably be on my bench when Kupp is healthy.
good luck with Kupp. no good news has come his way this summer. Even today.
The star Rams wide receiver is in Minnesota today visiting with a body specialist to further understand the root of his injury, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per sources.
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Originally Posted By Murph0408⏩
good luck with Kupp. no good news has come his way this summer. Even today.
I think people are overreacting to it. I've heard Kupp has a reputation for being more involved in his recovery and wanting to know everything about his injuries.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
How many teams? Your team looks pretty decent. Very short benches.
10 teams. Short bench (per the commish) to help keep activity on waivers. It makes for some interesting week 7 pickups when people start getting hit with Bye weeks.
Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
8 team league? That’s a pretty loaded roster
10 teamer, I'm very happy with it.
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just got done with my third and final draft. this isnt too ****ty is it? (yahoo projections talking **** lol). its a 14 team half ppr

QB: DJones
WR: Olave, DeeBo, Godwin
QJohnston, ZayJones
RB: Bijan, Gibbs
Allgeier, Perine / Roschon
TE: Hockenson
DST: NE
K: Sanders
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  4. You may not edit your posts