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Thread: **OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION

post 1668295033 09-22-2022, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatReset1⏩
Not until the collapse of the entire US economy.
I'll be buying then too.
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post 1668295343 09-22-2022, 01:08 PM
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You guys just don't understand ARKK, you need to have a 5-year time horizon





Spoiler!
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
ouchhhhhhhhhhhh


Watch her turn around and start another chiit fund.

im in this. we're just back down here to pick up more passengers for the blast off.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Any insider news on SABS? Looks like a buyout candidate at this point pretty much? I'm expecting the worst since that's all the markets been giving me lately.

Also - unbelievable what happened to ZIM. I bought calls leading up to divvy payout and somehow it was pinned the entire time, calls expired worthless. Figured we might touch low $40s again, maybe high $30s, but $26... fukking LMAO unreal. If they don't have a huge divvy at start of 2023 this will take me a couple years to recover just based on divvy payments. Just a week ago I averaged down at $31.50 thinking we're due for a bounce but here we are..
SABS is dead. No one will take them over because they would have to take over their cattle and stuff which is messy and generally just too much. It’s not something they can shift manufacturing elsewhere or just intellectual property to get. I sold my high CB stuff and rebought lower to book the losses against my oil gains and some other random options stuff I managed to buy/sell properly.
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post 1668302563 09-22-2022, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Also - unbelievable what happened to ZIM. I bought calls leading up to divvy payout and somehow it was pinned the entire time, calls expired worthless. Figured we might touch low $40s again, maybe high $30s, but $26... fukking LMAO unreal. If they don't have a huge divvy at start of 2023 this will take me a couple years to recover just based on divvy payments. Just a week ago I averaged down at $31.50 thinking we're due for a bounce but here we are..
Lol. No. Not unbelievable. I told you guys it could happen. Unusual dividend payout is not sustainable. Shippers have crashed in the past.
post 1668305103 09-22-2022, 04:33 PM
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Finally almost to the June lows.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
ouchhhhhhhhhhhh


Watch her turn around and start another chiit fund.

for a second , I thought this was a Bitcoin chart
Dallas Cowboys

Lifted for 30 years

Ass > tits
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post 1668310143 09-22-2022, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
wow. I guess all I can do is hold my warrants to offset gains in either 2023 or 2024, since yearly tax writeoffs are limited to $3500 and I've already lost more than that this year. My total loss on this position is around $5k or so, not too bad.

you don't think they have any surprises up their sleeve though? I seem to remember reading that they have enough funding to last another 18 months or so, maybe something hits by then?



True, I remember you mentioning this. However they haven't stopped paying dividends just yet, the last one was $4.75 a month back, and I believe in their most recent earnings presentation they mentioned that they are increasing their dividend to 30% per quarter (previously 20%).. share price can plummet but if their dividends are still decent I'm ok with that. Even $3 per quarter is find with me tbh.
Lol oh yeah same here. I had like $10k gains this year so I’ve fully offset all of that. Might still be able to cover some more of my losses before end of year. I’d be hyped if they have something up their sleeve, but not hopeful at all. Even with fastest emergency approvals EVER with 100% government funding for every step of the way they couldn’t manage to their their antibodies through phase 3 within 1.5 years. Only certain thing is getting a final payout on their DOD contract. At this rate it’ll be equal to their market cap LOL
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post 1668313453 09-22-2022, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
Come ITT if you want to see Carbonfibber get SPANKED:

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...1738923&page=2
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Yea that was a shocker that they couldn't find people for human trials during the omicron surge. The reason they cited was that not enough people were dying.. yet Pfizer has released multiple boosters to prevent against "serious illness" since then, and their latest covalent boosters are being released after testing on eight lab mice. Why vaccinate if there aren't enough people dying, as the role of the vaccines at this point is touted as preventing serious illness lmao. Honk honk
They didn’t set their trial up properly with more than 1 endpoint. They phucked it up genuinely on every level. I thought it was just a no brainer that it would get emergency authorization because people were frantic about getting treatments out there and it was seemingly clear polyclonal was better than monoclonal. To me it doesn’t seem possible these missteps were accidental it really seems like there was a deliberate reason to intentionally avoid getting the product to market either from an insider or someone in the government. Perhaps we will learn more if their data ever gets published from their phase 2/3 trial.
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post 1668318453 09-22-2022, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Yea I'd believe that. When I had covid in january the monoclonal antibodies were nowhere to be found, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone tried to prevent the polyclonals from coming to market. Many shady things were done. On some level I can conceptualize how vaccines are still being pushed but then there's things like Paxlovid.. which my sister (a doctor who is provax) claims her peers said was a completely bullchit pill that got approved. Who knows

I feel bad for the people who worked on the platform though, those researchers/scientists are genuinely trying to help (obv profit is a motivator as well) and are getting shut down due to greed and/or politics
Mmmmmhmmmm. Yup. Paxlovid got approved even though it’s kinda BS. But the big pharma corps have the money and connections to make sure their trials are executed flawlessly. I sadly learned it isn’t about having the best product. It’s about gaining access to markets first. You’d never know there is a second treatment given authorization either. All anyone knows is paxlovid.
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post 1668327693 09-23-2022, 03:52 AM
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It’s called SeptemBEAR for a reason boyos. Easiest and best month for me ever. Just loaded up in August and done nothing for a month. Account up 50%.

I also have bachelor, master and phD in cell bio, microbiology, virology, and immunology and work in biotech. I would just stay away from that chit, it’s a complete gamble. The only thing I could do is tell you what are garbage treatments that won’t work and the play would be to bet on long term puts. Still times when the market would overreact to news and pump it anyway. Also times where garbage companies with trash products can become big through collusion and greed like MRNA. I would have bought puts on them
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Getting bloody
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So do things go back down to pre-covid crash levels (Dec '19/Jan '20) and bounce/build back from there or are we going deeper?

I went 100% cash about 2 months ago and am just drooling, sitting here waiting to buy back in (long term type).....thinking of very slowly buying back over the next few weeks/months because some of these prices look ridiculous and I'm getting FOMO.
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if you need to know why......


year lows getting tested or going below before year end is now high chance


this is giant fu to dip buyers since goldman has huge amount of clients





yesterday someone at close knew of this coming

so they sold market down last 15 minutes


gs client info hit news early this morning and here we are



crude touching $80 is warning that its almost crash time.

crude shouldn't be this low. SRP will have to end at some point.
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TSLA buy order 18 @ 275

filled
post 1668334953 09-23-2022, 07:56 AM
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I would be very careful trying to knife catch.


There is forced liquidations happening in energy (oil) stocks atm.

That is never good sign.
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US$$$$$$$$$$$

Up 200% across the board on my $UUP calls. They’re itm now and don’t expire until dec, jan, and March.
I’m also short the euro via $EUO since that thing is going to 0
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Crude below $80!
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post 1668335783 09-23-2022, 08:15 AM
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I’m looking at a chart of tsla and I think it’s about to crash.
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Yeah we aren't even close to done with the pain here IMO
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60 points away from June lows.

no rsi can save this if we touch and don't hold those lows.


Crude is scary atm.

I don't need to pull up chart what happened 08 with crude.....

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Refilling the SPR will likely act as a backstop for crude in a worst case scenario, the Biden administration has been trying to use that to incentivize US production by assuring companies they won't let the price crash

Otherwise if prices drop hard, we're going to be headed into an even worse supply situation going forward as capital spending tightens again


Side note that much of the oil being released from the SPR is heavy sour crude, which competes directly with Canadian crude and directly where we ship it
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SPR was put in place 70's for this exact reason to prevent other countries to use commodity as strategic advantage.


I haven't found study anywhere to show how much per gallon / liter is SPR dropping fuel cost at the pump.


If the market tanks or gets close to going to hell like its doing atm


You will get that amazing dip on oil stocks again.
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Tfw preparing for tax season

Would definitely be looking at DCAing or something even just with the knowledge these companies are sitting on piles of cash and have few places to put it besides buybacks and dividends. Everything will dump, profitable companies with low capital requirements and tons of cash flow should outperform.
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Dollar soaring, commodities crashing…woah baby this will be a fun ride.

Waiting on the sidelines with hella cash.
I probably banged your mom.

Eat the whole animal like a real man.
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I had to take profit on my Dec $30c on UUP In at 0.30 out at 0.93. Still have Jan and March calls riding on it. As well as holding my Feb EUO calls
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DXY should just keep going.

Maybe reach 130-140 at this rate.

Since Fed said they will raising rates.


There is long road between 8ish percent inflation to feds 2 percent goal.


Take profit at 120 and than wait for reload...


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We haven’t even had the recession news event yet.
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