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Thread: *Official* Options trading thread: Why Alpha/Beta when you can Theta?

post 1631703243 02-18-2021, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By SolidPaul⏩
Just got my tax forms. Mirin gains boyos?

(actually ended up losing almost all of it, but this speaks to my options trading experience)

https://imgur.com/a/ykKG1iO

Damn

What were you playing meme stocks?
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Well atleast my CC on pltr will be at max profit today lol, arkg lookin like Ill get assigned and I don't even wanna sell a CC on my apple because premiums are trash
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I really don't know why AMD is getting hurt like this.


Worse off than NVDA and Intel.
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
STO:
PLTR
2/19
$29 @ $1.5 x20

This may very well dip further upon lockup ending, but it was over sold, and we had Cathie talking about it being a long term play for them. Weeklies still have decent premiums, so worst case I just wheel

Also
TSLA
2/19
Strangle:
$800cc/$800csp x2
$6.5 / $16.99
Still 1.5 days to go, but I am considering taking on assignment, instead of rolling (I fuggin hate rolling).

For reference at my entry points for each position, for 2/26 CC's
PLTR @ $29, IV = 126 (2.2% ROI)
TSLA @ $800, IV = 54 (2.6% ROI)

Any thoughts?
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post 1631712663 02-18-2021, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I really don't know why AMD is getting hurt like this.


Worse off than NVDA and Intel.
No clue either, when they slipped below 90 yesterday I thought they'd start to bounce back. Everything they make sells out immediately and gets great reviews, plus demand for their stuff has only continued to rise with the pandemic
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Still 1.5 days to go, but I am considering taking on assignment, instead of rolling (I fuggin hate rolling).

For reference at my entry points for each position, for 2/26 CC's
PLTR @ $29, IV = 126 (2.2% ROI)
TSLA @ $800, IV = 54 (2.6% ROI)

Any thoughts?
PLTR is probably good long term. So maybe not bad taking assignment on it. I am thinking PLTR anywhere from $22-24 might be great 2-3 year hold.


TSLA maybe wait bit? Dips get bought yesterday it was almost green after going to $760.

Isn't your TSLA assignment going to be expensive as phuck.


One thing is for certain TSLA drags all the EV down with it.
post 1631714163 02-18-2021, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
PLTR is probably good long term. So maybe not bad taking assignment on it. I am thinking PLTR anywhere from $22-24 might be great 2-3 year hold.


TSLA maybe wait bit? Dips get bought yesterday it was almost green after going to $760.

Isn't your TSLA assignment going to be expensive as phuck.


One thing is for certain TSLA drags all the EV down with it.
Maybe a healthy sized position in PLTR wouldn't be bad, just would suck to see a $29 cb. But then I can just wheel at or above $30 with weeklies and adjust accordingly...

TSLA, yeah it will be very expensive lol ($160k), but I am cash heavy atm. Like you mentioned, the dips get bought up quickly, and a lot can happen in 24 hours, so I guess I will try to forget about it until tomorrow... ugh.
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post 1631714293 02-18-2021, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Still 1.5 days to go, but I am considering taking on assignment, instead of rolling (I fuggin hate rolling).

For reference at my entry points for each position, for 2/26 CC's
PLTR @ $29, IV = 126 (2.2% ROI)
TSLA @ $800, IV = 54 (2.6% ROI)

Any thoughts?
Hmmm not sure on Tsla... PLTR you are quite underwater on... probably take assignment and wheel them biches
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post 1631720113 02-18-2021, 10:41 AM
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watching the game stop congress chit.

1) does the reddit CEO have a glass eye?
2) keith gill's first comment "I am not a cat" fukking LEGEND
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Bullish or bearish move here hmm.


If demand is so high why is Tesla cutting prices.

https://electrek.co/2021/02/17/tesla...el-3-y-prices/

In Japan they cut Model 3 price $8K
post 1631725653 02-18-2021, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Perhaps threat of competition, or perhaps greater efficiency in manufacturing, and/or they probably found ways to cut costs on their newer models, or even better contractual agreements with vendors that supply them with parts to build their cars?
#buildthemoat

They can handle losses/low profitability waaaaaaaaay better than anyone else in the game. Revenue growth is all that matters for them. Why try and squeeze profits from consumers when they can raise cash from investors?
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post 1631735813 02-18-2021, 01:18 PM
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lol looks TSLA dip got bought again.


it always get bought up.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I cannot believe how hard RIOT is going up.

Gonna put it in watchlist.

As soon crypto market does any correction.

RIOT will fall back.

IV is 250
well this was missed chance.


RIOT went to shiiit today.
post 1631743373 02-18-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
lol looks TSLA dip got bought again.


it always get bought up.
das it. Curious to see what my $800c/$800p strangle will look like.


I poosied out big time and rolled my PLTR csp's to next week, and actually set up another strangle. Should've just been assigned, but at the same time, if this play works out, it will be around a $5k play, or I will have a $26 cost basis. Poorly played on my part. I even told myself that I wasn't going to touch PLTR until after the lock up chit... Broke my own rule. Legit bummed on myself.

Anyways, expiring tomorrow:

symbol quantity
RKT csp x25
LULU csp x1
UWMC cc x100
ARKF csp x2
ARKG csp x1
ARKQ csp x1
ARKW csp x1
TSLA cc x2
TSLA csp x2


Max profits: $14.6k. Looks like the only thing I will have to worry about is TSLA which is $4.6k of all of that. Fingies crossed!

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WTF just spoke to some ******* at Fidelity and I got denied for portfolio margin. He didn't like how I answered my "What is your trading strategy?" question. I basically said that varies based on market conditions. He said I am mostly selling naked puts right now and am already on a margin call of $12,000. My acct is $227k and I sent proof of another $50,000 of liquid cash in my bank acct.

**** im calling TD Ameritrade
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
WTF just spoke to some ******* at Fidelity and I got denied for portfolio margin. He didn't like how I answered my "What is your trading strategy?" question. I basically said that varies based on market conditions. He said I am mostly selling naked puts right now and am already on a margin call of $12,000. My acct is $227k and I sent proof of another $50,000 of liquid cash in my bank acct.

**** im calling TD Ameritrade
TD is easy right Chino?

I think you probably needed to be more specific lmao
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
WTF just spoke to some ******* at Fidelity and I got denied for portfolio margin. He didn't like how I answered my "What is your trading strategy?" question. I basically said that varies based on market conditions. He said I am mostly selling naked puts right now and am already on a margin call of $12,000. My acct is $227k and I sent proof of another $50,000 of liquid cash in my bank acct.

**** im calling TD Ameritrade
Rekt lol


Heads up with TDA it will be a process. Shouldn’t be hard to get qualified for moderate options trading level but PM requires an actual test which covers a lot of Greeks and synthetic options etc. and you only get 2 tries AND they don’t tell you what you got wrong AND they give you a different test each time...
Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
TD is easy right Chino?

I think you probably needed to be more specific lmao
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
TD is easy right Chino?

I think you probably needed to be more specific lmao
well im seeing patients right now and catching up on charts and ****, was on hold for awhile and not expecting any questions. I dont really have a specific trading strategy. He said my stuff is too concentrated in tech too
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holy **** up 5k on beach body
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
well im seeing patients right now and catching up on charts and ****, was on hold for awhile and not expecting any questions. I dont really have a specific trading strategy. He said my stuff is too concentrated in tech too
Yeah you do. You invest heavily in low risk equity IPOs and utilize options to hedge your risk and enter new positions at a discount to current market conditions. You utilize level 2 trading data in addition to option flow to make your trading decisions toohit em with all the jargon lmao
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Yeah you do. You invest heavily in low risk equity IPOs and utilize options to hedge your risk and enter new positions at a discount to current market conditions. You utilize level 2 trading data in addition to option flow to make your trading decisions toohit em with all the jargon lmao
I'll try again next week and say this lol.
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Anyways, expiring tomorrow:

symbol quantity
RKT csp x25
LULU csp x1
UWMC cc x100
ARKF csp x2
ARKG csp x1
ARKQ csp x1
ARKW csp x1
TSLA cc x2
TSLA csp x2
Closed everything out today instead of letting them expire. ( I hate the uncertainty of after hours, even though the only potential assignments would've been RKT, LULU, and TSLA. Oh, I am letting UWMC expire, because there's $250 of guaranteed funds there.

Total realized profit: $9,461.20, with another $3k once UWMC cc clears, so almost $12.5k.
I set all of these up, with the exception of LULU and RKT (combined $4747 profit) up within the past 10 days.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
My experience with TDA was not like that, got approved for margin instantly and same with options. It wouldn't surprise me if the answers you provide to their options questionnaire potentially raise flags in their system that say you're a crazy YOLO options trader.. which may affect approval since no broker wants to cover someone's margin if they pull GUH type trades frequently
you don't have portfolio margin. These are very different things.
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I sold 1400/2400 of my FTOC(Payoneer). I took a loss but whatever
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Sold CURI 3/19 17.5p today. Want to add more shares, but not at these levels.
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Picked up 20 NIO March 5th $65 strike. filled $1.8

NIO got crushed this week. It was $62 few times.

But damn Tesla dragging all EV with it.


That being said I suspect NIO will run up before earnings March 1st.


Planning selling before earnings.


Nothing is ever worth holding through earnings.


Roku went flat as soon earnings hit.

MM like to shake everyone out.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Nothing is ever worth holding through earnings.
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Speaking of earnings, RKT is coming up next week I believe. Q4 should yield another monstrous performance, but it's always tanked. That said, there is usually a fat run up. Might be a good idea to get some 2/26 $24 calls...

But... I did STO
RKT
2/26
$19.50 @ $.70 x50
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Picked up 20 NIO March 5th $65 strike. filled $1.8

NIO got crushed this week. It was $62 few times.

But damn Tesla dragging all EV with it.


That being said I suspect NIO will run up before earnings March 1st.


Planning selling before earnings.


Nothing is ever worth holding through earnings.


Roku went flat as soon earnings hit.

MM like to shake everyone out.
When did you get these to fill? That doesn't sound like a bad play. I am trying to get it for 1.90
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Speaking of earnings, RKT is coming up next week I believe. Q4 should yield another monstrous performance, but it's always tanked. That said, there is usually a fat run up. Might be a good idea to get some 2/26 $24 calls...

But... I did STO
RKT
2/26
$19.50 @ $.70 x50
I totally forgot about RKT.

Forever at $20 lmao.

Just checked out option flow 2/26 very cheap. Implied move is only +/- 6 percent hmm.

Maybe bit of run next week. Might throw at weekly Monday.


According to teamRKT they thought buffett / berkshire would announce in their last 13F holdings RKT lol

Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
When did you get these to fill? That doesn't sound like a bad play. I am trying to get it for 1.90
I don't have exact time stamp on my broker but it seems to have filled about hour ago.

Range was $1.80-1.85. Made mistake not all were at $1.8.


If Tesla continues this trend it could drag NIO with it. So not sure how this will work out
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I totally forgot about RKT.

Forever at $20 lmao.

Just checked out option flow 2/26 very cheap. Implied move is only +/- 6 percent hmm.

Maybe bit of run next week. Might throw at weekly Monday.


According to teamRKT they thought buffett / berkshire would announce in their last 13F holdings RKT lol






I don't have exact time stamp on my broker but it seems to have filled about hour ago.

Range was $1.80-1.85. Made mistake not all were at $1.8.


If Tesla continues this trend it could drag NIO with it. So not sure how this will work out
Been selling CC's on RKT, but tired of it. Next time it hits $24 im out. Stays almost perfectly between $20-24
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