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post 1486624561 03-10-2017, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
MRO dividend potential seems legit. Buy at 15-16ish(sub $10 dip would be legit too) and sit till oil spikes higher (55-60) and the dividend comes back to 80 cents a share. Boom. automatic 5% and a chance to perhaps double your money
I like that idea, you think it will get closer to 10 soon?

Already got in on CVX and did pretty well earlier last year, they pay a pretty nice dividend also
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
XOM and MRO looking like buys though. Any company that is buying right now will be solid companies in the future at this rate. I'll probably invest heavily in May/June when the paychecks start rolling in and by then perhaps the current oil glut will be at its worst right before the summer busy season.feelsgoodmayne

MRO dividend potential seems legit. Buy at 15-16ish(sub $10 dip would be legit too) and sit till oil spikes higher (55-60) and the dividend comes back to 80 cents a share. Boom. automatic 5% and a chance to perhaps double your money
I would take a stab @ MRO...just not now. No reason IMO. give it some time
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Originally Posted By CDub73⏩
Guess I'll go ahead and get in on this new thread a little bit.

Currently, holding two overnight shorts: AOBC @ 19.20, AMD 13.09 avg

AMDs been rocking, but don't think this dip is quite done as this recent bounce was weak and got shut down in the 13.30s which will be my stop. May change that depending on action tomorrow.



AOBC - Failing stock that couldn't find much foothold even with the Trump election mania and continued pump going on. Gapped down on 3/2 on bad earnings and I'm simply shorting the fill. Probably give it a 19.37 to 19.50 stop.
Ended up stopping out on these. Watching how AMD handles the gap fill. If a bearish H&S starts to form, I'll probably jump back in short. I doubt I'll play the bull side.

Some stuff I'm looking at for the day grind:

CATB, FNSR-bad earnings, momo AUPH-(eventual short), INAP TTPH. Looking purely for technical moves.
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I agree MRO is ok in my books. VLO TSO as well.
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buy a North American oil ETF and save yourself the headache, and risk, of owning an individual company.
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Originally Posted By White-Belt⏩
buy a North American oil ETF and save yourself the headache, and risk, of owning an individual company.
ETFs are getting my interest more and more. Whether it is oil/bio/finance etc.

maybe just buy XLf, IBB and margin the fork out of them for juice? Run some put spreads to hedge.
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Originally Posted By White-Belt⏩
buy a North American oil ETF and save yourself the headache, and risk, of owning an individual company.
buy a oil futures and save yourself the headache, and risk, of owning a poorly run ETF.
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Originally Posted By White-Belt⏩
buy a North American oil ETF and save yourself the headache, and risk, of owning an individual company.
I read a stat that put about 60% of working class $$ invested were attached to ETF's, Either by the retail investor or fund managers. That number has been going up since the invention of the ETF. I have no reason to believe that it's going to go down anytime soon. So if that's the case then it should open the door to inefficiencies in stock pricing for the future. Stock prices will end up fluctuating based on it's weighted attachment to the ETF and not to liquidity naturally focused on the stock its self.

That's a big reason why I'm hoping my methods are the future for retail investors that want to beat the ETF's.
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Got in with pgem at 18 sales look strong and strong outlook for 2017 let's ride the money train!


Edit: buy hlth now bullish trend coming over 2.00 today EPs suppose to be a beat
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Initiated a modest position in DSW. Has a pretty safe dividend of near 4%, and they've sensibly expanded. Every time I go to one it's a mad house. With the exception of a blazer I wear at bars when I know there's a 50/50 chance I'm going to puke, I don't own a suit under $600, but I rock $60 shoes from DSW all day. If you have sensible style, very few people can differentiate a quality $60 shoe from a $300 shoe.

I don't think it faces much of a threat from Amazon. And it's consistent with the consumer move away from traditional malls to stores like TJ Maxx.

Also, on Target, this isn't a 2 week hold and it also isn't something you should put all your money into, my position is about 1.5% of my overall portfolio. A solid investment strategy is to diversify a decent amount of your portfolio into stocks that are highly unlikely to go down significantly, have a large protected dividend, and reasonable upside. Is it likely Target falls another 20%? Fck no, is it reasonable that it could appreciate 10-20% over the next year and collect a fat dividend? Yes. Not catching the exact bottom isn't something to cry about, you have to have some flex in this game.

Also, while target has a very loyal customer base, this isn't a stock I'd hold for more than 18 months with the Amazon threat.
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and to the brah that was asking about whether or not he should buy a 3% dip on bitcoin

theres ur answer
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can't believe people actually bought INTO the etf hype run-up

my god, idk if i should even feel sorry.
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Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs⏩
fuking stupid tgt. anyone buying more is it just throwing good money after bad?
Do you shop at Target stores?
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Originally Posted By Slamt⏩
can't believe people actually bought INTO the etf hype run-up

my god, idk if i should even feel sorry.
fukin lol
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Originally Posted By GabrielNovar⏩
I would take a stab @ MRO...just not now. No reason IMO. give it some time
Can confirm oil glut is insane and finally starting to see some price movement in the downward direction because the glut is so insanely large. Balance isn't remotely close and more oil being discovered all the time. Alaska just found a couple billion barrels in a previously thought "barren" area. Mega field in Kazakhstan's caspian sea has like 38 billion gallons (and a trillion cubic meters of natty gas apparently) just came online in October starting at 90k bpd which they are trying to turn up to 370k bpd by June. Saudis are the only OPEC country cutting and they are gonna say FU to the rest of them in May and crank it back up to max production.

Not to mention Musk's battery chit could potentially mean a lot less generators being used in places with little energy storage available. Battery tech on an island in Hawaii is going to reduce the amount of diesel needed to power the island at night by 1.6m gallons a year. I think this is going to be a longer term trend not to mention the trend in general of better MPG transportation.

I think May/June could be strong months for purchasing, but we will have to see what the future brings. Always a chance for an outbreak of violence in any of those barren wastelands fuking up oil production.
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and to the brah that was asking about whether or not he should buy a 3% dip on bitcoin

theres ur answer
Lmfao I tried to talk a couple of my friends out of buying bitcoins. I'm not sure if they were smart enough to listen.
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Originally Posted By Barn01⏩
I read a stat that put about 60% of working class $$ invested were attached to ETF's, Either by the retail investor or fund managers. That number has been going up since the invention of the ETF. I have no reason to believe that it's going to go down anytime soon. So if that's the case then it should open the door to inefficiencies in stock pricing for the future. Stock prices will end up fluctuating based on it's weighted attachment to the ETF and not to liquidity naturally focused on the stock its self.

That's a big reason why I'm hoping my methods are the future for retail investors that want to beat the ETF's.
Yes, I've read that too, the argument that indexing creates more opportunities for value investing etc. It makes sense.

ETFs are incredibly useful when you have entire sectors hit, and can't be sure who the winners and losers are going to be. Great way to diversify our risk - provided the etf company doesn't go tits up
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Get in with mysz there gonna explode at any moment trading at 2.45 now they are gonna burst any moment just got deals to expand there market to off-line retail shoppers


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Get in now before it's to late brah money train starts next week
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Bought some shares of this around .30. What do you guys make of the recent accumulation and OBV rise with the price decrease?

I see a bounce coming due to this divergence, but wondering if someone here has seen a similar chart elsewhere?

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Can the 2 of you ^ pls go to the pennyland thread? This thread is for real investments not pump 'n dumps.

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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Can the 2 of you ^ pls go to the pennyland thread? This thread is for real investments not pump 'n dumps.

ayyy
I know, I would but that thread has no activity and I work so no day time chat room for me. I don't always dabble in penny stocks, however I know others use TA here and just wanted some opinions. obv and accu/dist can be useful to verify if stocks are oversold or if they are under dilution.

Like SRPT. obv and accu/dist were higher on the dips in recent months compared to time just before the spike indicating people aren't selling shares at the low price and buying pressure was seen at higher prices.



Compare this to DRYS known dumpster fire. Prices were elevated yet obv and accu/dist were falling because they were diluting shares. Price falls as a result.



NAK can show a similar story.



Definitely not 100% accurate all the time as with everything, but it is useful when charts are clean and other indicators show similar direction.
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Originally Posted By ReyDelMundo⏩
I don't think it faces much of a threat from Amazon. And it's consistent with the consumer move away from traditional malls to stores like TJ Maxx.
Also, on Target, this isn't a 2 week hold and it also isn't something you should put all your money into, my position is about 1.5% of my overall portfolio. A solid investment strategy is to diversify a decent amount of your portfolio into stocks that are highly unlikely to go down significantly, have a large protected dividend, and reasonable upside. Is it likely Target falls another 20%? Fck no, is it reasonable that it could appreciate 10-20% over the next year and collect a fat dividend? Yes. Not catching the exact bottom isn't something to cry about, you have to have some flex in this game.
Also, while target has a very loyal customer base, this isn't a stock I'd hold for more than 18 months with the Amazon threat.
I was going to say AMZN will take away some of TGT's overall sales for years to come indefinitely and that's something which makes me wanna stay away from TGT, especially because retail is something I don't really mess with much at all given all the variables that come with retail only stocks. AMZN is the only "retail" stock that I own at the moment and I don't really even consider them retail because they have their hands in everything so they are more of a blue chip stock right??? Or am I wrong? Lol, honestly I dunno what catagory it falls under, all I know is AMZN is king indefinitely and its going to mess with all other retailers for years to come. I wouldn't be surprised if malls start closing down in the future.

With that said I just took a look at TGT and the chart. The buy point right now @ 55ish seems like a solid entry, given the 52 week range of 54.41 - 84.14 AND especially because of 4.36% dividend, which it looks like just got raised? That's a helluva dividend right there and I'm all about dividends, especially since they're paying quarterly.

So....I agree that looks like a pretty good play. Keep us updated if you get in on that. Looks like now is a good time cuz you'll get the 2nd to next dividend then hold till january ish maybe after xmas sales are over??

I was at target the other day and its still always crowded so doesn't look like too much of a shot in the dark to me

Just don't forget with retail a lot of bad sh*t can happen. Remember the hundreds of thousands of costumer credit cards that got stolen from target when their system was hacked? I think I can even see the huge dip on the chart right now.
Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Can the 2 of you ^ pls go to the pennyland thread? This thread is for real investments not pump 'n dumps.

ayyy
brb making a 225% return on one of my penny stocks

Kinda makes my 25% gain on T look like a joke even though that's been my 2nd best play, and anyone who likes dividend stocks should check out T. They are pretty high right now but for the past year they have been around 40ish anyways so I'd say its safe to assume they will hit $45 sometime this year I bet.
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anyone looking at TD?

probably a quick and easy 5%.

If it dips on Monday I will buy some.
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Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs⏩
anyone looking at TD?

probably a quick and easy 5%.

If it dips on Monday I will buy some.
Current holder of them for dividends, another dip would be nice for the sake of adding to that position.
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DB yolo trade? looks like its going to forking rally
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Originally Posted By GabrielNovar⏩
DB yolo trade? looks like its going to forking rally
Y tho? Aren't they trying to raise money ATM? Could be a buy the rumor sell the news situation looks like people are anticipating them entering the Chinese market? Something tells me that Western banks won't do as well as the Chinese banks... I'll let you take a guess why.
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Yeesh, The Euro could actually be due for a bounce with the past two sessions. First area it could retest is 1.08284, if it breaks that then 1.1 and possibly 1.14. But that would have to happen rather quickly as the French elections in May will send it tumbling anyway.
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whats going on with oil?

worth it to invest in oil stocks?
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Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs⏩
whats going on with oil?

worth it to invest in oil stocks?
I mean, it wouldn't be a terrible time to start scaling in if that is how you invest. I wouldn't start with more than 15-20% of your preferred position to start right now for the reasons I posted above. That way you capture some gains if it decides to go back up for unforeseen drops in production or if it goes down you can continue to scale in.

All of this is pretty much IMO so do as you see fit and rub it in my face if I am wrong
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Y tho? Aren't they trying to raise money ATM? Could be a buy the rumor sell the news situation looks like people are anticipating them entering the Chinese market? Something tells me that Western banks won't do as well as the Chinese banks... I'll let you take a guess why.
we can't buy any chinese banks right?

LYG is another interesting one if the gov't sells their remaining stake.
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