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post 10000029355 01-29-2026, 09:35 AM
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Spain Legalizes 500,000 Immigrants To Defeat Far Right

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post 10000029358 01-29-2026, 09:37 AM
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Spain just fuked itself
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Originally Posted By Procta
Spain just fuked itself
Democracy!!!

Oh wait, they won't vote our way? Legalize the savages!
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post 10000029392 01-29-2026, 09:51 AM
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Not many other options available to prop up a ponzi scheme economy than to feed the system from the bottom though.

I suspect the US will be doing more of the same (again) in a few more years when the political winds turn (again).

"Spain's socialist-led coalition government has been an outlier on this issue among the larger European nations, underlining the importance of migrants for the economy. The country has been outperforming the other main EU economies in recent years, posting expected growth of close to 3% in 2025. Unemployment, a longstanding weakness of the Spanish economy, has dipped below 10% for the first time since 2008, according to figures released on Tuesday."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62n6gw1dp9o
post 10000029564 01-29-2026, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Bonobo

Ok cool.
post 10000241802 07-03-2026, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard
Not many other options available to prop up a ponzi scheme economy than to feed the system from the bottom though.

I suspect the US will be doing more of the same (again) in a few more years when the political winds turn (again).

"Spain's socialist-led coalition government has been an outlier on this issue among the larger European nations, underlining the importance of migrants for the economy. The country has been outperforming the other main EU economies in recent years, posting expected growth of close to 3% in 2025. Unemployment, a longstanding weakness of the Spanish economy, has dipped below 10% for the first time since 2008, according to figures released on Tuesday."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62n6gw1dp9o
Deflection initiated.

Has zero to do with their economy.
post 10000241828 07-03-2026, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
Deflection initiated.

Has zero to do with their economy.
Spain’s total fertility rate sits around 1.10 to 1.12 children per woman, which is well below the generational replacement level of 2.1. This leaves the country with a natural population deficit, where the native-born population has been declining since 2011. [1, 2, 3]
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post 10000241860 07-03-2026, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Procta
Spain just fuked itself
You can say that again. Imagine being a native-born citizen. Similar to Biden opening the borders. Worst president of our lifetime.
Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
post 10000241866 07-03-2026, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
Deflection initiated.

Has zero to do with their economy.
Ok cool.

People will say it's for other reasons but I'm pretty sure everything is done because of money. The ones making decisions wouldn't allow this sort of thing if they didn't think it would help make them rich. Maybe I'm too cynical or it's different in Spain.
post 10000241870 07-03-2026, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Spain’s total fertility rate sits around 1.10 to 1.12 children per woman, which is well below the generational replacement level of 2.1. This leaves the country with a natural population deficit, where the native-born population has been declining since 2011. [1, 2, 3]
There's lots of countries in the same boat. But if they think importing people from countries where people pop out babies they can't afford is the solution, it's not.

Hungary gave massive tax incentives for people who have more kids. Like if you have 4 kids you pay zero income tax for life. I'd like to see that here in Canada as well.
post 10000241873 07-03-2026, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
There's lots of countries in the same boat. But if they think importing people from countries where people pop out babies they can't afford is the solution, it's not.

Hungary gave massive tax incentives for people who have more kids. Like if you have 4 kids you pay zero income tax for life. I'd like to see that here in Canada as well.
It doesn't work. Hungary is at a TFR of 1.5 child per woman. The west is toasted, and you can't pay them to have children. This didn't work going all the way back to Rome.
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post 10000241918 07-03-2026, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
It doesn't work. Hungary is at a TFR of 1.5 child per woman. The west is toasted, and you can't pay them to have children. This didn't work going all the way back to Rome.
They only started their incentives last year or maybe two years ago. Give it time.

Something like 70% of the world is below the proper replacement rate, and the only places that aren't are shitholes like Africa.
post 10000241930 07-03-2026, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
It doesn't work. Hungary is at a TFR of 1.5 child per woman. The west is toasted, and you can't pay them to have children. This didn't work going all the way back to Rome.
This, it doesn’t work and people choosing not to have kids has become a cultural issue , not a financial issue.

And if you bring in immigrants, they will bring the population up and they’ll have kids, but then their kids will have less kids as well. So it’s really just putting a bandaid over a gaping wound, and the bandaid winds up causing cancer
post 10000241972 07-03-2026, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By John
This, it doesn’t work and people choosing not to have kids has become a cultural issue , not a financial issue.

And if you bring in immigrants, they will bring the population up and they’ll have kids, but then their kids will have less kids as well. So it’s really just putting a bandaid over a gaping wound, and the bandaid winds up causing cancer
Russia is at 1.3 per 2.1, and they have been trying to incentivize natives to have children for nearly a century.


Like I said, this goes all the way back to when Augustus became the emperor of Rome, and implemented the Julian Reforms to preserve Rome.


And guess what. It didn't work.


The real point is that under western liberal orthodoxy of individualism and its market ideology western governments don't believe in tribalism, and that you can swap any people out and replace any person regardless their geography.


Blood and soil is taboo.


The seeds of the west are encoded with its destruction, and there is no stopping it.


Conservatives cant have their pie and eat it too.


Reproduction is a spiritual issue, on top of many other variables. With the eradication of religion and secularism pleasure overcomes sacrifice.


It's just another symptom of a dying empire with no way to reverse it.


Crying about immigration is wasted energy.


In order for your dear capitalism to work it needs growth across the board. Governments need people to tax. And people to staff their militaries.
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post 10000242106 07-03-2026, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Spain’s total fertility rate sits around 1.10 to 1.12 children per woman, which is well below the generational replacement level of 2.1. This leaves the country with a natural population deficit, where the native-born population has been declining since 2011. [1, 2, 3]
In the era of AI, those are fantastic numbers.
post 10000242108 07-03-2026, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard
Ok cool.

People will say it's for other reasons but I'm pretty sure everything is done because of money. The ones making decisions wouldn't allow this sort of thing if they didn't think it would help make them rich. Maybe I'm too cynical or it's different in Spain.
Sadly, we may never know the true reason why.

"The governing Socialist Party (PSOE) and its far-left allies actively championed the policy as a tool to defeat the far-right, arguing that integrating foreign nationals into the formal economy eliminates the exploitation and "institutional racism" that fuels extremist narratives."
post 10000242109 07-03-2026, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
In the era of AI, those are fantastic numbers.
You ever read about the San Domingo revolt during the French Revolution, bro?
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post 10000242116 07-03-2026, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
You ever read about the San Domingo revolt during the French Revolution, bro?
Hopefully, we'll find the same courage in 40 years :)
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
Hopefully, we'll find the same courage in 40 years :)
I read an essay on that the other day, and it reminded me of some of your posts lol.


Hopefully by that time I'll be off this earth.
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post 10000244987 07-05-2026, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
I read an essay on that the other day, and it reminded me of some of your posts lol.


Hopefully by that time I'll be off this earth.
As long as they dont call us hypocrites as theyre loading us onto the train carts, that would be awful.

At least we'll be able to die with dignity knowing we never stooped to their levels...
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Russia is at 1.3 per 2.1, and they have been trying to incentivize natives to have children for nearly a century.


Like I said, this goes all the way back to when Augustus became the emperor of Rome, and implemented the Julian Reforms to preserve Rome.


And guess what. It didn't work.


The real point is that under western liberal orthodoxy of individualism and its market ideology western governments don't believe in tribalism, and that you can swap any people out and replace any person regardless their geography.


Blood and soil is taboo.


The seeds of the west are encoded with its destruction, and there is no stopping it.


Conservatives cant have their pie and eat it too.


Reproduction is a spiritual issue, on top of many other variables. With the eradication of religion and secularism pleasure overcomes sacrifice.


It's just another symptom of a dying empire with no way to reverse it.


Crying about immigration is wasted energy.


In order for your dear capitalism to work it needs growth across the board. Governments need people to tax. And people to staff their militaries.
The first half of the 20th century seemed to find a happy medium regarding western individualism. Yes there were issues like a Great Depression and a world war, but back then people seemed to believe in individualism while at the same time having a strong community, if that makes sense. They strived to be self sufficient, but if help was needed, there was a tight knit community there to jump in and help. No coercion needed either, people just did what was right.

You saw remnants of that going up until around the aftermath of 9/11. Both of the neighborhoods I grew up in were tight knit. Now neighbors are basically strangers.

I really don’t get conservatives who stand up for the global elite corporations, who in turn utterly despise conservatives and everything they stand for. I’m not a socialist by any means but ok sure, tax their assets etc higher. They despise people like me who believes in tight knit communities and believe in a strong nation whose people built its values
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Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to over 3,000,000 illegal aliens.





Meanwhile Obama deported over 2,500,000 illegal aliens.





So the Republicans gave amnesty to over 3,000,000 illegals with the hope they would vote for them???

The stupidly of American Conservatives knows no limit. Or their voters.
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Spain is already fukd economically.
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