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05-25-2026, 10:53 AM
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So this is what happens when you dont job hop? BRUTAL
Mechanical engineer posted their salary. 23 years experience


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90th percentile salary for a senior mechanical engineer is about $160k. So did he lose some money, sure. But not all that much. If he were the top 10% of mechanical engineers, they'd be trying to poach him.
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50 hrs per week for life, brootal lol
05-25-2026, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
If you put $58k in an inflation calculator, he was already making $100k in 2004. So he only got a $17k raise.
90th percentile salary for a senior mechanical engineer is about $160k. So did he lose some money, sure. But not all that much. If he were the top 10% of mechanical engineers, they'd be trying to poach him.
If anything though, he should have hit $100k in at least 2016.
05-25-2026, 11:06 AM
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It would be interesting if someone could add a column to this graph and show his real wages.
05-25-2026, 11:07 AM
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05-25-2026, 11:07 AM
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I don't understand job hopping and the people that try it. The people that do usually end up in start up type of companies that fold within 6 months max and then they're back to looking for a new job.
Family friend works for nothing but startups for stock option hopes and is a director. She had one where she hired 6 people on her team only to have management tell them 2 weeks into their onboarding that they could only afford 2 and she had to cut 4 of them. Imagine going through who knows how many interviews and time to get hired only to be let go before you even really started and back begging for another job.
It's best to just stay where you're at and make connections with people that make way more than you in your field that might recommend you. Most people want to see others do well in life and give them a chance just like they got.
That's what happened to me. Out of college I made like 33k a year max at my job and was so embarrassed that I went to college only to make this. I got a different job that paid 45k, then got promoted to a 55k-60k role. Spent 5 years in that role and connected with people that liked me and were older and wanted a chance for me. Around Thanksgiving one year a guy that I worked with called me and told me to apply to his former boss bc he had put in a recommendation for me and if I apply he didn't want to get my hopes up but thought I was basically a shoe in. That was the easiest job interview of my entire life. She wanted to hire me and just meet me on MS Teams video. Salary went from 55k to 150K just like that. If I had tried to job hop or enter different fields that I had no experience or connections in I would have just been wasting my time and career.
Family friend works for nothing but startups for stock option hopes and is a director. She had one where she hired 6 people on her team only to have management tell them 2 weeks into their onboarding that they could only afford 2 and she had to cut 4 of them. Imagine going through who knows how many interviews and time to get hired only to be let go before you even really started and back begging for another job.
It's best to just stay where you're at and make connections with people that make way more than you in your field that might recommend you. Most people want to see others do well in life and give them a chance just like they got.
That's what happened to me. Out of college I made like 33k a year max at my job and was so embarrassed that I went to college only to make this. I got a different job that paid 45k, then got promoted to a 55k-60k role. Spent 5 years in that role and connected with people that liked me and were older and wanted a chance for me. Around Thanksgiving one year a guy that I worked with called me and told me to apply to his former boss bc he had put in a recommendation for me and if I apply he didn't want to get my hopes up but thought I was basically a shoe in. That was the easiest job interview of my entire life. She wanted to hire me and just meet me on MS Teams video. Salary went from 55k to 150K just like that. If I had tried to job hop or enter different fields that I had no experience or connections in I would have just been wasting my time and career.
05-25-2026, 11:07 AM
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Jesus fucking Christ. They were making what I make now 20 years ago.
I’ve been at my company 4 years and have had some raises but I really need to GTFO.
I’ve been at my company 4 years and have had some raises but I really need to GTFO.
05-25-2026, 11:10 AM
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You get used to working at one place after only just a few months so once you stay for a year or 2 it's pretty much over for most people once you fall into your little routine it's truly over just groundhog day till you retire.
05-25-2026, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
u forgot the part where it says mechanical engineer, not a spreadsheet inputter like u
Jesus fucking Christ. They were making what I make now 20 years ago.
I’ve been at my company 4 years and have had some raises but I really need to GTFO.
I’ve been at my company 4 years and have had some raises but I really need to GTFO.
05-25-2026, 11:15 AM
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Yeah you have to have the balls to tell your current company to FOAD and bail to another one that will respect you more, even if it takes you out of your comfort zone for awhile.
05-25-2026, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Imnew1⏩
Lol this is completely false
I don't understand job hopping and the people that try it. The people that do usually end up in start up type of companies that fold within 6 months max and then they're back to looking for a new job.
Family friend works for nothing but startups for stock option hopes and is a director. She had one where she hired 6 people on her team only to have management tell them 2 weeks into their onboarding that they could only afford 2 and she had to cut 4 of them. Imagine going through who knows how many interviews and time to get hired only to be let go before you even really started and back begging for another job.
It's best to just stay where you're at and make connections with people that make way more than you in your field that might recommend you. Most people want to see others do well in life and give them a chance just like they got.
That's what happened to me. Out of college I made like 33k a year max at my job and was so embarrassed that I went to college only to make this. I got a different job that paid 45k, then got promoted to a 55k-60k role. Spent 5 years in that role and connected with people that liked me and were older and wanted a chance for me. Around Thanksgiving one year a guy that I worked with called me and told me to apply to his former boss bc he had put in a recommendation for me and if I apply he didn't want to get my hopes up but thought I was basically a shoe in. That was the easiest job interview of my entire life. She wanted to hire me and just meet me on MS Teams video. Salary went from 55k to 150K just like that. If I had tried to job hop or enter different fields that I had no experience or connections in I would have just been wasting my time and career.
Family friend works for nothing but startups for stock option hopes and is a director. She had one where she hired 6 people on her team only to have management tell them 2 weeks into their onboarding that they could only afford 2 and she had to cut 4 of them. Imagine going through who knows how many interviews and time to get hired only to be let go before you even really started and back begging for another job.
It's best to just stay where you're at and make connections with people that make way more than you in your field that might recommend you. Most people want to see others do well in life and give them a chance just like they got.
That's what happened to me. Out of college I made like 33k a year max at my job and was so embarrassed that I went to college only to make this. I got a different job that paid 45k, then got promoted to a 55k-60k role. Spent 5 years in that role and connected with people that liked me and were older and wanted a chance for me. Around Thanksgiving one year a guy that I worked with called me and told me to apply to his former boss bc he had put in a recommendation for me and if I apply he didn't want to get my hopes up but thought I was basically a shoe in. That was the easiest job interview of my entire life. She wanted to hire me and just meet me on MS Teams video. Salary went from 55k to 150K just like that. If I had tried to job hop or enter different fields that I had no experience or connections in I would have just been wasting my time and career.
I went from 59k to 83k. Of course my company was small, but still. I'm still a poorcel, but $59k is damn near homeless.
I wouldn't have sniffed $75k for another 5 years if I stayed
05-25-2026, 11:20 AM
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Claude prompt: can you show this persons real wages based on us cpi
A mechanical engineer spent 23 years at the same company, watched their nominal salary double from $58K to $117K, and ended up with basically nothing to show for it in real terms. Adjusted for inflation, their 2026 purchasing power is roughly what a $99K salary bought in 2004 — a real gain of under 20% across two decades of loyalty, or less than 1% per year.
The post-2021 inflation spike was the final gut punch: every raise since then has been a pay cut in disguise, with real wages falling from a peak of ~$133K (in today’s dollars) down to ~$117K. The market didn’t reward tenure — it taxed it.
A mechanical engineer spent 23 years at the same company, watched their nominal salary double from $58K to $117K, and ended up with basically nothing to show for it in real terms. Adjusted for inflation, their 2026 purchasing power is roughly what a $99K salary bought in 2004 — a real gain of under 20% across two decades of loyalty, or less than 1% per year.
The post-2021 inflation spike was the final gut punch: every raise since then has been a pay cut in disguise, with real wages falling from a peak of ~$133K (in today’s dollars) down to ~$117K. The market didn’t reward tenure — it taxed it.
05-25-2026, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
We should've never left the gold standard.
Claude prompt: can you show this persons real wages based on us cpi
heads or tails online
A mechanical engineer spent 23 years at the same company, watched their nominal salary double from $58K to $117K, and ended up with basically nothing to show for it in real terms. Adjusted for inflation, their 2026 purchasing power is roughly what a $99K salary bought in 2004 — a real gain of under 20% across two decades of loyalty, or less than 1% per year.
The post-2021 inflation spike was the final gut punch: every raise since then has been a pay cut in disguise, with real wages falling from a peak of ~$148K (in today’s dollars) down to ~$117K. The market didn’t reward tenure — it taxed it.
heads or tails online
A mechanical engineer spent 23 years at the same company, watched their nominal salary double from $58K to $117K, and ended up with basically nothing to show for it in real terms. Adjusted for inflation, their 2026 purchasing power is roughly what a $99K salary bought in 2004 — a real gain of under 20% across two decades of loyalty, or less than 1% per year.
The post-2021 inflation spike was the final gut punch: every raise since then has been a pay cut in disguise, with real wages falling from a peak of ~$148K (in today’s dollars) down to ~$117K. The market didn’t reward tenure — it taxed it.
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05-25-2026, 11:38 AM
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Holy shit that’s brutal but also pathetic.
Have some respect for yourself. You spend far too much time and energy at work to not be keeping up with the current market value.
There was a guy on OG misc who had a similarly poor progression. He had been at his company forever and so his only reference point was the measly 2-3% inflation “raises” (cope). He couldn’t really comprehend how badly he was being shortchanged. Guys only 3-5 years into the same career were making more than him.
Have some respect for yourself. You spend far too much time and energy at work to not be keeping up with the current market value.
There was a guy on OG misc who had a similarly poor progression. He had been at his company forever and so his only reference point was the measly 2-3% inflation “raises” (cope). He couldn’t really comprehend how badly he was being shortchanged. Guys only 3-5 years into the same career were making more than him.
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05-25-2026, 11:42 AM
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There's genuinely nothing worse than a "company loyalty" phaggot. Srs. Biggest cucks in the universe.
You can break your back for these soulless cunts for 40 years but they'll underpay the fuk out of you and drop you the second it's convenient. Not sure why anyone would think otherwise.
They must put something in the fucking free pizza they bring in every other Friday or some shit.
You can break your back for these soulless cunts for 40 years but they'll underpay the fuk out of you and drop you the second it's convenient. Not sure why anyone would think otherwise.
They must put something in the fucking free pizza they bring in every other Friday or some shit.
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05-25-2026, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Well I went from 55k to 150K so I guess my patience paid off. Only problem is AI and Indians to take our jobs so I know there's zero chance I'll ever actually retire from my company. They already laid me off once but reversed their decision as they kept me on for two months during their decision with another company to replace us all that failed. During that time I kept an excel sheet of all companies, job titles, date applied and responses I got. I had about 50 applications I submitted that I was perfectly qualified for and got nothing but auto rejections. I was so happy the day my boss called me and asked how would I like my job back full time and was so sorry I had to go through all of this and never wanted to do this to me. Job hopping and hoping somebody hires you just sounds miserable.
Lol this is completely false
I went from 59k to 83k. Of course my company was small, but still. I'm still a poorcel, but $59k is damn near homeless.
I wouldn't have sniffed $75k for another 5 years if I stayed
I went from 59k to 83k. Of course my company was small, but still. I'm still a poorcel, but $59k is damn near homeless.
I wouldn't have sniffed $75k for another 5 years if I stayed
05-25-2026, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Imnew1⏩
Job hopping is not career hopping. You don’t have to enter a new field with no connections to job hop. It doesn’t mean going to some sketchy startup either. I’m not sure why you’re framing it that way. It truly just means going to another job, which could be doing the same thing for another large employer.
I don't understand job hopping and the people that try it. The people that do usually end up in start up type of companies that fold within 6 months max and then they're back to looking for a new job.
Family friend works for nothing but startups for stock option hopes and is a director. She had one where she hired 6 people on her team only to have management tell them 2 weeks into their onboarding that they could only afford 2 and she had to cut 4 of them. Imagine going through who knows how many interviews and time to get hired only to be let go before you even really started and back begging for another job.
It's best to just stay where you're at and make connections with people that make way more than you in your field that might recommend you. Most people want to see others do well in life and give them a chance just like they got.
That's what happened to me. Out of college I made like 33k a year max at my job and was so embarrassed that I went to college only to make this. I got a different job that paid 45k, then got promoted to a 55k-60k role. Spent 5 years in that role and connected with people that liked me and were older and wanted a chance for me. Around Thanksgiving one year a guy that I worked with called me and told me to apply to his former boss bc he had put in a recommendation for me and if I apply he didn't want to get my hopes up but thought I was basically a shoe in. That was the easiest job interview of my entire life. She wanted to hire me and just meet me on MS Teams video. Salary went from 55k to 150K just like that. If I had tried to job hop or enter different fields that I had no experience or connections in I would have just been wasting my time and career.
Family friend works for nothing but startups for stock option hopes and is a director. She had one where she hired 6 people on her team only to have management tell them 2 weeks into their onboarding that they could only afford 2 and she had to cut 4 of them. Imagine going through who knows how many interviews and time to get hired only to be let go before you even really started and back begging for another job.
It's best to just stay where you're at and make connections with people that make way more than you in your field that might recommend you. Most people want to see others do well in life and give them a chance just like they got.
That's what happened to me. Out of college I made like 33k a year max at my job and was so embarrassed that I went to college only to make this. I got a different job that paid 45k, then got promoted to a 55k-60k role. Spent 5 years in that role and connected with people that liked me and were older and wanted a chance for me. Around Thanksgiving one year a guy that I worked with called me and told me to apply to his former boss bc he had put in a recommendation for me and if I apply he didn't want to get my hopes up but thought I was basically a shoe in. That was the easiest job interview of my entire life. She wanted to hire me and just meet me on MS Teams video. Salary went from 55k to 150K just like that. If I had tried to job hop or enter different fields that I had no experience or connections in I would have just been wasting my time and career.
If this guy were doing mechanical engineering at Lockheed Martin, he could have simply applied for a different mechanical engineering job at Raytheon after a few years and have received a 30-40% raise.
There is of course a point where it hits diminishing returns but starting salaries grow faster than wages within the market and so not switching jobs at least once or twice will in general leave you way behind.
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Yeah that was bad advice.
Lol this is completely false
I went from 59k to 83k. Of course my company was small, but still. I'm still a poorcel, but $59k is damn near homeless.
I wouldn't have sniffed $75k for another 5 years if I stayed
I went from 59k to 83k. Of course my company was small, but still. I'm still a poorcel, but $59k is damn near homeless.
I wouldn't have sniffed $75k for another 5 years if I stayed
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05-25-2026, 12:32 PM
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Job: 5%
Short Term Saving: 4%
Investments: 11%
RE investments: 15%
Maximizing or maxing 401k and Roth IRA
If you aren't getting these annual returns you aren't going to make it, srs.
Short Term Saving: 4%
Investments: 11%
RE investments: 15%
Maximizing or maxing 401k and Roth IRA
If you aren't getting these annual returns you aren't going to make it, srs.
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05-25-2026, 12:40 PM
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I fucking serve water and take peoples order and I make that much.
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
Would tip $0.01. Srs.
I fucking serve water and take peoples order and I make that much.
Grumpy little cunt.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
That someone could be you
It would be interesting if someone could add a column to this graph and show his real wages.
Edit:
You actually did it above even though you took the AI shortcut. Reps anyway
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05-25-2026, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By GaloisTheory⏩
I just mean I’ve never found it that easy to job hop in the same field you work in. AI filters you out of most companies you want to apply for and if you do get an interview you’re lucky if you get to the final round. Then they want to force you into some bs mock demo of you selling their service to a customer. You might as well just be patient and connect. Seeing people getting 65k-85k as a bump from 55k was frustrating while I watched it happen to the job hopping people I worked with but now I make 150k. To each their own.
Job hopping is not career hopping. You don’t have to enter a new field with no connections to job hop. It doesn’t mean going to some sketchy startup either. I’m not sure why you’re framing it that way. It truly just means going to another job, which could be doing the same thing for another large employer.
If this guy were doing mechanical engineering at Lockheed Martin, he could have simply applied for a different mechanical engineering job at Raytheon after a few years and have received a 30-40% raise.
There is of course a point where it hits diminishing returns but starting salaries grow faster than wages within the market and so not switching jobs at least once or twice will in general leave you way behind.
Yeah that was bad advice.
If this guy were doing mechanical engineering at Lockheed Martin, he could have simply applied for a different mechanical engineering job at Raytheon after a few years and have received a 30-40% raise.
There is of course a point where it hits diminishing returns but starting salaries grow faster than wages within the market and so not switching jobs at least once or twice will in general leave you way behind.
Yeah that was bad advice.
05-25-2026, 01:43 PM
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the job hopping does not make sense. why would another company pay you much more for the same job?
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76% total inflation of prices according to AI from 2004-2026, which would make his salary of 58k = 102k by now if it was just pegged to inflation
That means his purchasing power increase was only 15% after more than two decades of slaving away. Not really what one probably hopes for, but at least he didn't lose purchasing power like many low pier poverty slaves
That means his purchasing power increase was only 15% after more than two decades of slaving away. Not really what one probably hopes for, but at least he didn't lose purchasing power like many low pier poverty slaves
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05-25-2026, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
"Senior" means 3-5 years of experience. He has 23 years lol. He should be making at least 200k if he tried even a little. Pretty sure this is just ragebait though.
90th percentile salary for a senior mechanical engineer is about $160k. So did he lose some money, sure. But not all that much. If he were the top 10% of mechanical engineers, they'd be trying to poach him.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
Does this account for 50 hour weeks? If not he's actually making 25% less than what he should be making
Claude prompt: can you show this persons real wages based on us cpi
A mechanical engineer spent 23 years at the same company, watched their nominal salary double from $58K to $117K, and ended up with basically nothing to show for it in real terms. Adjusted for inflation, their 2026 purchasing power is roughly what a $99K salary bought in 2004 — a real gain of under 20% across two decades of loyalty, or less than 1% per year.
The post-2021 inflation spike was the final gut punch: every raise since then has been a pay cut in disguise, with real wages falling from a peak of ~$133K (in today’s dollars) down to ~$117K. The market didn’t reward tenure — it taxed it.
A mechanical engineer spent 23 years at the same company, watched their nominal salary double from $58K to $117K, and ended up with basically nothing to show for it in real terms. Adjusted for inflation, their 2026 purchasing power is roughly what a $99K salary bought in 2004 — a real gain of under 20% across two decades of loyalty, or less than 1% per year.
The post-2021 inflation spike was the final gut punch: every raise since then has been a pay cut in disguise, with real wages falling from a peak of ~$133K (in today’s dollars) down to ~$117K. The market didn’t reward tenure — it taxed it.
05-25-2026, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
All the robot did was take your original chart and add a column for his real wages and yoy change based on US inflation data.
Does this account for 50 hour weeks? If not he's actually making 25% less than what he should be making
It’s based on the hours worked in the original chart.
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