Reading the bible, it is dead fucking obvious to me that the trinity is a totally made up theological exercise in mental gymnastics and has no validity AT ALL WHATSOEVER.

But on the other hand, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of brilliant bible teachers, scholars etc. aggressively affirm the trinity, and in a sense make it seem that rejecting the trinity is as outrageous as claiming the earth is flat. So this is also something I can't ignore and so I am questioning my own convictions and have been for years.

But as I keep going back to what the biblical text actually says, I just can't help but be 100% convinced the trinity is the most retarded made up nonsense ever conceived.

What do you think, and most importantly, tell me IN YOUR OWN WORDS (PLEASE! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! NO BOILERPLATE PARROTING which does not bring anything to the table) what you understand the trinity to be, and why you believe in it if you do.

I've consulted the bible and it says you're a cunt.

Because Jesus claims to be God multiple times in the Bible. Not A God but the God equal to the father.

That's the whole reason why he was crucified.

It's not that complicated at all.

where in the bible did jesus say he is God?

I and the Father are one.

Before Abraham, I Am.

I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

What was the reason the Jews had Jesus crucified?

I asked you where in the bible did jesus say he was God

He doesn't specifically say I am God in those exact words.

I rest my case.

Hahaha so if Jesus doesn't say "I am God, worship me" in those exact words as you want it be, then you won't believe?

Even though he obviously implied many times and was crucified for it.

You're debating theology with some phaggot's alt account. Likely a trilby wearing atheist squatting on a fucking dildo as he types his shit.

yes

instead of insulting me, prove to me that jesus claimed to be god

Or I could just not waste my time playing your games, phaggot.

Why don't you never answer me when I ask about his crucifixion?

Do you believe he was crucified and raised from the dead 3 days later as 500 witnesses testified to and were killed for saying so?

because I am asking the question where did jesus say he was god and you are deflecting

so you have no evidence, got it.

I answered your question already.

Jesus said he was God multiple times but he didn't phrase it in the exact words you want.

you are reading meaning into the text which doesnt say it

Well, even the Jews understood what he meant which is why they crucified him.

The bible is very clear on the fact the jews didn't understand shit, so why do you think this is a good argument?

They understood enough to know that Jesus was claiming to be God.

Their rejection of Christ was demonic, not because they couldn't understand.

Ha! Red

you are clearly unable to show me where in the bible claims to be god, because it's not in there

so far in this thread: boilerplate basic bitch deflections posted as I predicted.