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Can someone pretend to be a BLM activist and refute what I'm saying?
I'm trying to understand what goes through their head and I just can't figure it out. And it's bothering me, 100% srs. So maybe if one of you guys try to pretend to be them and refute what i post you guys can understand it and explain it to me.
The whole issue is that you're saying cops are systematically killing black people. They kill all races. They actually kill whites more. But in terms of population density, they kill blacks more. Both statistically facts. But, blacks have more time associated with cops than whites. Stemming from the fact that they contribute 13% to the population but commit over 50% of violent crimes. So that explains the why the population density is higher and destroys your idea of systematic racism when it comes to cops.
There are different ways of fixing this. One way is giving the cops better training and the other way. The other way is to stop committing the so many crimes that are placing you in this situation. Stop the robbing, the murdering, the dealing, the gangbanging, etc. Both should be done. The latter is also going to stop the stereotypes that you feel is holding you back. Stereotypes are always going to exist, so why not portray a better image.
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Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."
Amirite or amirite
The whole issue is that you're saying cops are systematically killing black people. They kill all races. They actually kill whites more. But in terms of population density, they kill blacks more. Both statistically facts. But, blacks have more time associated with cops than whites. Stemming from the fact that they contribute 13% to the population but commit over 50% of violent crimes. So that explains the why the population density is higher and destroys your idea of systematic racism when it comes to cops.
There are different ways of fixing this. One way is giving the cops better training and the other way. The other way is to stop committing the so many crimes that are placing you in this situation. Stop the robbing, the murdering, the dealing, the gangbanging, etc. Both should be done. The latter is also going to stop the stereotypes that you feel is holding you back. Stereotypes are always going to exist, so why not portray a better image.
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Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."
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07-08-2016, 10:06 PM
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It's a chicken-and-egg problem
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
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They feel like they are persecuted and incarcerated at higher rates than whites, when whites commit crimes they are more likely to get away with it. I'm not entirely sure, but thats the sense I've made of it.
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07-08-2016, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
weird how the same exact patterns repeat themselves in terms of crime/ population of blacks in the UK, canada, and even (especially) majority black countries. I'm sure every single one of those are the fault of white people too thoughIt's a chicken-and-egg problem
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
Well shyte. I didn't think of that. RepsIt's a chicken-and-egg problem
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
07-08-2016, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
the stats from 2015 state of white/black crime 84% of violent crime is black against white, thats not over policimg thats responding to a problemIt's a chicken-and-egg problem
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
The 'over policing' is targeted towards low income areas. Low income areas are typically breeding ground for crime. These areas should be heavily policed, otherwise, businesses wouldn't go anywhere near there, jobs would completely dry up, and crime would continue to increase. The best way to turn a ****hole into a half decent area is with heavy policing.It's a chicken-and-egg problem
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods
There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.
So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
The very last thing low income areas need is less police.
07-08-2016, 10:14 PM
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I gave up...
I responded to a post saying why doesn't BLM protest Black on Black crime... I'm a white privileged male so I wouldn't understand
I responded to a post saying why doesn't BLM protest Black on Black crime... I'm a white privileged male so I wouldn't understand
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07-08-2016, 10:15 PM
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Good post op...
Now this is how you criticise BLM. Fair and balanced. Repped.
As for justifying it, idk how truthful this is but they see it as this; when a cop kills an unarmed white guy they go to jail. When they kill an unarmed black guy they get a paid vacation. Not so much the killing but the getting away with it that gets too them.
Now this is how you criticise BLM. Fair and balanced. Repped.
As for justifying it, idk how truthful this is but they see it as this; when a cop kills an unarmed white guy they go to jail. When they kill an unarmed black guy they get a paid vacation. Not so much the killing but the getting away with it that gets too them.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Ok that definitely makes sense. If someone commits more crime then they will be checked out more often.the stats from 2015 state of white/black crime 84% of violent crime is black against white, thats not over policimg thats responding to a problem
But then:http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...04463789858002
They're still getting harsher sentences ( by 14.5%) That's probably another issue. Which I think could be explained by there prior charges, right?
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Blacks make up 15-20% of the population but 49% of homicides are done by blacks.http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/ne...violent-crime/
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http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/ne...violent-crime/
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Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."
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They get harsher sentences cuz they like to reoffend like a mother ****er
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
The whole BLM thing was really sparked by the Michael Brown killing. That incident was a completely justified use of force. Michael Brown was a criminal who fought with a police officer and lost. The BLM 'movement' was founded on a completely justified killing. While there has been unjustified police shootings of black individuals, the same can be said about whites. There have been several incidents over the past couple years where white men where unjustly killed by police force. Unfortunately, they don't receive the airtime that black victims of police shootings get. Police don't need better training. The number of questionable murders at the hands of police is incredibly low in America.Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
study doesnt take into account past crimes, i.e. someone who commits a crime once vs someone who has multiple offensesOk that definitely makes sense. If someone commits more crime then they will be checked out more often.
But then:http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...04463789858002
They're still getting harsher sentences ( by 14.5%) That's probably another issue. Which I think could be explained by there prior charges, right?
But then:http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...04463789858002
They're still getting harsher sentences ( by 14.5%) That's probably another issue. Which I think could be explained by there prior charges, right?
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Originally Posted By DonaldBastard⏩
http://nypost.com/2016/01/02/myth-of...ling-epidemic/The whole BLM thing was really sparked by the Michael Brown killing. That incident was a completely justified use of force. Michael Brown was a criminal who fought with a police officer and lost. The BLM 'movement' was founded on a completely justified killing. While there has been unjustified police shootings of black individuals, the same can be said about whites. There have been several incidents over the past couple years where white men where unjustly killed by police force. Unfortunately, they don't receive the airtime that black victims of police shootings get. Police don't need better training. The number of questionable murders at the hands of police is incredibly low in America.
Yeah, according to this, you're right. Police don't need more training and the number is so low that there isn't a police killing epidemic
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The whole thing is a fckn sham. Have you ever heard a BLM activist actually sound intelligent during a level debate? That's not to say that there aren't intelligent people in BLM, but during the context of a debate, they literally have nothing to back up their illogical positions.
It's 100% based on emotions... It makes absolutely no difference to them if you give solid evidence contrary to their opinions. BLM activists as a whole are too unbelievably stupid to even notice the shallowness of their emotional "arguments".
It's 100% based on emotions... It makes absolutely no difference to them if you give solid evidence contrary to their opinions. BLM activists as a whole are too unbelievably stupid to even notice the shallowness of their emotional "arguments".
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Originally Posted By Lolip0p⏩
This post speaks volumes about you since absolutely NOBODY came in here with stereotypical tropes until YOU showed up.I'll be honest. If you wear pants below your waistline, act tough and unintelligent, listen to rap about bitches and drugs and speak broken English, I will assume you're a thug.
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You're a white male you can't possibly understand what it feels like to be scared to go to the grocery store for some bread
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It's a wrap bro
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Originally Posted By Jeeter⏩
Are you fuking retarded? Is that not exactly how many thugs dress? And are many of them not black?This post speaks volumes about you since absolutely NOBODY came in here with stereotypical tropes until YOU showed up.
I guess grandma Jones is just as likely to be a Muslim terrorist as Shareem Momad Abdul too, right?
Fuking lol @ "stereotypes"
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