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post 1451859713 07-08-2016, 10:00 PM
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Can someone pretend to be a BLM activist and refute what I'm saying?

I'm trying to understand what goes through their head and I just can't figure it out. And it's bothering me, 100% srs. So maybe if one of you guys try to pretend to be them and refute what i post you guys can understand it and explain it to me.

The whole issue is that you're saying cops are systematically killing black people. They kill all races. They actually kill whites more. But in terms of population density, they kill blacks more. Both statistically facts. But, blacks have more time associated with cops than whites. Stemming from the fact that they contribute 13% to the population but commit over 50% of violent crimes. So that explains the why the population density is higher and destroys your idea of systematic racism when it comes to cops.

There are different ways of fixing this. One way is giving the cops better training and the other way. The other way is to stop committing the so many crimes that are placing you in this situation. Stop the robbing, the murdering, the dealing, the gangbanging, etc. Both should be done. The latter is also going to stop the stereotypes that you feel is holding you back. Stereotypes are always going to exist, so why not portray a better image.

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Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."

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It's a chicken-and-egg problem

They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods

There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.

So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
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You're on a predominantly white, right wing website. I'm not sure what you're expecting making this thread here. If you want a straight answer, you won't find it here
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They feel like they are persecuted and incarcerated at higher rates than whites, when whites commit crimes they are more likely to get away with it. I'm not entirely sure, but thats the sense I've made of it.
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post 1451860943 07-08-2016, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted By JB05
It's a chicken-and-egg problem

They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods

There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.

So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
weird how the same exact patterns repeat themselves in terms of crime/ population of blacks in the UK, canada, and even (especially) majority black countries. I'm sure every single one of those are the fault of white people too though
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Originally Posted By JB05
It's a chicken-and-egg problem

They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods

There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.

So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
Well shyte. I didn't think of that. Reps
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Originally Posted By JB05
It's a chicken-and-egg problem

They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods

There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.

So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
the stats from 2015 state of white/black crime 84% of violent crime is black against white, thats not over policimg thats responding to a problem
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If I were a blm person I would say....

"Nah uh. That's bs! That doesn't give you a right to execute us. I demand justice! Fry the bacon!!"
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Originally Posted By JB05
It's a chicken-and-egg problem

They claim that blacks commit the same amount of crime as anyone else, and the high crime reporting and incarceration rates are because of over-policing in black neighborhoods

There is probably a degree of truth in that. Plus there are obvious sentencing differences between whites and blacks ex. regarding drug offenses.

So overpolicing + harsh sentences makes blacks look high crime. Which means their neighborhoods are under more scrutiny. Which means more criminals get caught. Which means more go to jail.. etc etc
The 'over policing' is targeted towards low income areas. Low income areas are typically breeding ground for crime. These areas should be heavily policed, otherwise, businesses wouldn't go anywhere near there, jobs would completely dry up, and crime would continue to increase. The best way to turn a ****hole into a half decent area is with heavy policing.

The very last thing low income areas need is less police.
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I gave up...
I responded to a post saying why doesn't BLM protest Black on Black crime... I'm a white privileged male so I wouldn't understand
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post 1451861723 07-08-2016, 10:15 PM
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I'll bite...

All lives matter

Get every officer in America into extra training immediately and "protest" will stop.
Thats what people want right, for the "protest" to stop?
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Good post op...
Now this is how you criticise BLM. Fair and balanced. Repped.
As for justifying it, idk how truthful this is but they see it as this; when a cop kills an unarmed white guy they go to jail. When they kill an unarmed black guy they get a paid vacation. Not so much the killing but the getting away with it that gets too them.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980
the stats from 2015 state of white/black crime 84% of violent crime is black against white, thats not over policimg thats responding to a problem
Ok that definitely makes sense. If someone commits more crime then they will be checked out more often.

But then:http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...04463789858002

They're still getting harsher sentences ( by 14.5%) That's probably another issue. Which I think could be explained by there prior charges, right?
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Blacks make up 15-20% of the population but 49% of homicides are done by blacks.http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf


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Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."

Amirite or amirite
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They get harsher sentences cuz they like to reoffend like a mother ****er
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito
Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."

Amirite or amirite
The whole BLM thing was really sparked by the Michael Brown killing. That incident was a completely justified use of force. Michael Brown was a criminal who fought with a police officer and lost. The BLM 'movement' was founded on a completely justified killing. While there has been unjustified police shootings of black individuals, the same can be said about whites. There have been several incidents over the past couple years where white men where unjustly killed by police force. Unfortunately, they don't receive the airtime that black victims of police shootings get. Police don't need better training. The number of questionable murders at the hands of police is incredibly low in America.
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito
Ok that definitely makes sense. If someone commits more crime then they will be checked out more often.

But then:http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...04463789858002

They're still getting harsher sentences ( by 14.5%) That's probably another issue. Which I think could be explained by there prior charges, right?
study doesnt take into account past crimes, i.e. someone who commits a crime once vs someone who has multiple offenses
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Originally Posted By DonaldBastard
The whole BLM thing was really sparked by the Michael Brown killing. That incident was a completely justified use of force. Michael Brown was a criminal who fought with a police officer and lost. The BLM 'movement' was founded on a completely justified killing. While there has been unjustified police shootings of black individuals, the same can be said about whites. There have been several incidents over the past couple years where white men where unjustly killed by police force. Unfortunately, they don't receive the airtime that black victims of police shootings get. Police don't need better training. The number of questionable murders at the hands of police is incredibly low in America.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/02/myth-of...ling-epidemic/

Yeah, according to this, you're right. Police don't need more training and the number is so low that there isn't a police killing epidemic
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The whole thing is a fckn sham. Have you ever heard a BLM activist actually sound intelligent during a level debate? That's not to say that there aren't intelligent people in BLM, but during the context of a debate, they literally have nothing to back up their illogical positions.

It's 100% based on emotions... It makes absolutely no difference to them if you give solid evidence contrary to their opinions. BLM activists as a whole are too unbelievably stupid to even notice the shallowness of their emotional "arguments".
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Originally Posted By Lolip0p
I'll be honest. If you wear pants below your waistline, act tough and unintelligent, listen to rap about bitches and drugs and speak broken English, I will assume you're a thug.
This post speaks volumes about you since absolutely NOBODY came in here with stereotypical tropes until YOU showed up.
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Originally Posted By Jeeter
This post speaks volumes about you since absolutely NOBODY came in here with stereotypical tropes until YOU showed up.
Are you fuking retarded? Is that not exactly how many thugs dress? And are many of them not black?

I guess grandma Jones is just as likely to be a Muslim terrorist as Shareem Momad Abdul too, right?


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