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post 1553199671 06-06-2018, 11:09 AM
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Don't fire Kathleen Kennedy over Solo

http://theweek.com/articles/775857/d...nedy-over-solo



No media sites are even discussing the possibility that part of Solo's failure was backlash against Last Jedi, which tells you something. It's all excuses and nonsense. No mention of the creators lashing out at the fans, blaming them, calling them racists, etc...
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I agree. Don't fire her over Solo.

Fire her over The Last Jedi.
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Disney still drowning in Avengers Infinity war money.

They dont give a fck and will let the cuckery continue as long as Marvel keeps carrying the load.

Star wars is dead.
post 1553200181 06-06-2018, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Mattw30
Disney still drowning in Avengers Infinity war money.

They dont give a fck and will let the cuckery continue as long as Marvel keeps carrying the load.

Star wars is dead.
Oh they have 4 billion reasons to care.
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post 1553200411 06-06-2018, 11:19 AM
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post 1553201321 06-06-2018, 11:28 AM
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Behind closed doors it will be a different story

This is all a front to keep shareholders and investors happy, unfortunately the head in the sand front will only piss off more fans

Disney will prob start with a spin off of original material (think they signed those hack writers from GoT) and if that takes off they'll reevaluate and relegate Kennedy to advisory roles (silent advisory roles)
post 1553201391 06-06-2018, 11:29 AM
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She's an accomplished producer, but passionately supported IP's are a different beast.

Get her the fuk out tbh.
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post 1553201451 06-06-2018, 11:31 AM
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Rogue 1 was the only decent Star Wars film in the recent years
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Originally Posted By RaphaelDeLaGhetto
Rogue 1 was the only decent Star Wars film in the recent years
i agree. the darth vader scenes at the end was hnnngggg
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post 1553202081 06-06-2018, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By RaphaelDeLaGhetto
Rogue 1 was the only decent Star Wars film in the recent years
that poop Jar Jar stepped in to has more personality than all Rouge 1 characters combined
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Originally Posted By GreenArrow89
that poop Jar Jar stepped in to has more personality than all Rouge 1 characters combined
This tbh
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Originally Posted By GreenArrow89
that poop Jar Jar stepped in to has more personality than all Rouge 1 characters combined
Rogue 1 was widely accepted as a good movie. You're just beingthat guy
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Originally Posted By GreenArrow89
that poop Jar Jar stepped in to has more personality than all Rouge 1 characters combined
It was only 'good' because the others are so goddam bad
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post 1553202941 06-06-2018, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Rogue 1 was widely accepted as a good movie. You're just beingthat guy
I must be another one ofthose guys
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
I must be another one ofthose guys
#metoo

The only good thing about rogue1 was the last 5 minutes. Which was nothing but a direct copy of the opening new hope scene. Nothing else in the movie was remotely interesting. I couldn't even name one of the characters.
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The last jedi was absolute garbage and tarnished the star wars legacy. Solo however was an entertaining movie and definitely worth watching. It was lightyears ahead of the last jedi. We'd have to know more about who has complete creative control but the perception is that Kathleen has all the power. If that's the case she has got to go asap.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
I must be another one ofthose guys
You are

muh 1 hour character development
muh "ever single new star wars movie sucks"

There's always people that gotta go against the grain.
Originally Posted By Kev1972
#metoo

The only good thing about rogue1 was the last 5 minutes. Which was nothing but a direct copy of the opening new hope scene. Nothing else in the movie was remotely interesting. I couldn't even name one of the characters.
u fockin wot, when did an Imperial officer get usurped, the main character murdered, and Vader cutting down 10 rebels with a lightsaber happen in ANH.
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Wow. That article specifically states KK is a victim of sexism and that's the only reason this is happening.

Also, the losses are far greater than 80 million. John Carter had half the production budget and GREATER sales yet lost 200 million. FACT.
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TFA re-lit the excitement for me, and I was looking forward to all the questions JJ set up to be answered. I was so disappointed that I don't give a sht anymore. Not going to pay for Solo, and probably won't pay for ep9 either.
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Originally Posted By Mattw30
Disney still drowning in Avengers Infinity war money.

They dont give a fck and will let the cuckery continue as long as Marvel keeps carrying the load.

Star wars is dead.
this isn't how corporations work. They don't say to themselves "oh this 250 million dollar investment bombed, but its okay because avengers did so well!!" everything is on the margins. TLJ and Solo are fukking failures and their heads will be on the chopping block sooner or later
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Originally Posted By RaphaelDeLaGhetto
Rogue 1 was the only decent Star Wars film in the recent years
Originally Posted By rectifryer
Wow. That article specifically states KK is a victim of sexism and that's the only reason this is happening.

Also, the losses are far greater than 80 million. John Carter had half the production budget and GREATER sales yet lost 200 million. FACT.
Originally Posted By bjjnovice
this isn't how corporations work. They don't say to themselves "oh this 250 million dollar investment bombed, but its okay because avengers did so well!!" everything is on the margins. TLJ and Solo are fukking failures and their heads will be on the chopping block sooner or later
Agreed with all of these.

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Originally Posted By rectifryer
Wow. That article specifically states KK is a victim of sexism and that's the only reason this is happening.

Also, the losses are far greater than 80 million. John Carter had half the production budget and GREATER sales yet lost 200 million. FACT.
The losses will be greater, trust me. The people saying 80 million are the same ones who opined Soylo would open to 120-150 million domestic.

Moreover, even breaking even, it would be a monumental failure. Star Wars movies need to make money. Lucas didn't hand the property over to them for free. They plunked down a check for $4 billion dollars. That investment needs to pay every-damn-year, 10% (or $400 million) just to be considered "meh", 20% or more to begin to be considered a strong return.

So, while the profit for the year is more than just the returns for Soylo, you have the toys nobody is buying, the t-shirts nobody wears, the blurays that sit on shelves, and such, but Soylo actually losing money -- that is an absolute disaster.

Meanwhile, if you ask me, Soylo wasn't the worst. I didn't care for the casting and there was some Meh-ness to it, but it was not offensive like Last Jedi. No media outlets will even speculate that the cause of Soylo's failure might be backlash against Last Jedi. Major media sites completely ignore that even as a possibility - which says something. The fact they ALL refuse to talk about it, tells me that behind closed doors, someone has forbid them from doing so, and for someone to forbid something to be spoken means they realize there is truth to it.

Disney needs a strong course correction. This involves replacing the top (Kennedy) and acknowledging that telling the fans they're bigots and haters was unwise. Instead of ignoring reality and thinking the fans will accept any slop they serve. No more politics, particularly left-wing ones or weird feminist agendas. That has yet to pay off with any industry that's attempted it, to my knowledge.
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TLJ is an abomination. Solo was fine. You really have to try to F up the franchise, and they did with TLJ.

The thing that really pissed me off with the TLJ was the forced comedy. The intro scene with him over the comms had me knowing within 2mins that the movie was going to be utter trash and it was
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I feel like the reason Solo bombed so hard was because the original directors, Phil Lord and Christopher Miller (21 Jump Street, Lego Movie), were fgonna make a meta-commentary about how TLJ tried way too hard to appeal to the SJW crowd and Kennedy didn't like that - so she fired them and hired Ron Howard to do the re-shoots.

For what it's worth, I think Ron Howard did a pretty good job given the timeline and resources he had to work with.
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Disney is doing just fine, they've already made well over 4 billion in revenue from star wars movies not including toys and disneyland attractions. Having said that they have to get their act together for their next star wars movies. Disney also owns the rights for Indiana Jones. Great, another franchise they can destroy.
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I liked the prequels over this current batch.. Well i though the third movie was very good.. and other two were meh/ok. TFA was ok.. still made no sense how Rey with no training was so powerful.. they killed of ****ing han (bad).. but you wanted to know Rey's and Snokes origin..

The next movie was garbage.. Snoke backstory wasn't important according to the director.. and Rey parents were a bunch of low lifes.. the questions/mysteries from the first film were not important/thrown away.. why the **** would i watch the last one?

Not even going into all the agendas they were pushing either..

I heard Rogue one was a great star wars movie.. but wasn't impressed.. can't remember any of the main characters.. outside of the dude who plays hannibal

In the originals u had Han.. Luke.. Yoda.. Vader.. Leia.. Palpatine and some others.. who u loved and got behind..

Who in this new trilogy gives those feels?? Certainly not Rey.. Finn.. Po or that soyboy rentabob Vader.. Snoke was the only interesting one and they ****ing killed him along with 2 of the original main cast (With Leia dead irl its 3)
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
Wow. That article specifically states KK is a victim of sexism and that's the only reason this is happening.

Also, the losses are far greater than 80 million. John Carter had half the production budget and GREATER sales yet lost 200 million. FACT.
Movie studios mess with the numbers to show movies that do great as being a loss for tax and insurance reasons. The public numbers dont mean jack.

The movies themselves do, and they suck.

The reason the prequels sucked was because they were geared toward kids, making them really stupid and childish. When Disney bought the rights I knew it would be even worse because they will and have shoved all the empowerment and equality BS down our throats.

Unless they start making star wars rated R, Im not gonna bother watching them anymore. Solo was total chit and it actually broke my heart.
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don't think I've ever read so much about two movies that I still haven't seen lol

i walked out of the theater for the force awakens in less than 20 minutes, but i i sat through all of rogue one when my dad rented it, and i enjoyed it
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