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post 1556321471 07-15-2018, 09:40 AM
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I’m a misogynist and hateful person and I wanna know why (130+ IQ only)

To preface: Of course I’m a virgin and FA (Alone in the trap of X night, ∀X ∈ {all 7 days of the week}), but frankly I’ve never really held a grudge against anyone in particular. I just fapped and used my computer to do stupid chit as life went on.

Recently (i.e. past 2-3 years), though, I’ve been a pretty hateful person. I don’t show it, and in fact when I talk to people I don’t feel like I hate any of them, but in my mind I just HATE groups of people. Kind of like becoming an incel extremist or a Nazi or something, as most of the hate is directed towards women and I guess non-whites (though I’m not really white myself). What I’m gonna focus on is women since most of the hate is there and it’s pronably the most important (51% of the population!). I don’t know what it is but I fking hate just thinking about them.

It’s not directly related to the fact that I never had sex with any, even if I had a girlfriend I’d still hate women. As I assume it has something to do with experience, I tried to write down reasons I might be feeling this way. Mostly red pill stuff but it’s as follows:

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1) Seen lots of women boss their husbands around and yell at them, while they don’t do chit themselves to provide for the family m and even cheat on them (typical in Israel). Also saw lots of women flirting with their co-workers and having male friends that they flirt with (also typical in Israel).
2) Always see women forcing people to agree with them on everything, and craft it in a way to obviously make them seem “right.” Lots of bishiness and provinciality.
3) Entire MeToo thing, male feminists, despite years advocating stuff for women, suddenly got completely hated by all women because of an accusation.
4) Lots of hypocrisy. My sister (no pics, fk off) claims she cares about personality and chit... yet she doesn’t even acknowledge that the ugly guys messaging her exist. She also talks mad chit about her friends at home, yet on IG she poses with them or leaves nice comments on their pics. Depressed as fk in some periods that she’s not married, yet every pic she uploads, she has a smile on with some caption expressing happiness. Ignores messages from guys all the fking time, but when 1 ignores her for 30 minutes she goes insane.
5) Went to an engineering school, so of course every woman had 100 ******* orbiters that did their HW for them, while they didn’t even acknowledge their existence.
6) Always see women talking chit about men and each other.
7) Always asking for sympathy and desperately looking for attention. Supposedly every fking woman is bipolar with severe depression and anxiety... yeah you definitely have anxiety when you post pics of yourself 24/7 online.
8) No such thing as a non-liberal woman.
9) Women who sleep their way to the top... one like that in the company I work at.
10) Treat me differently because of my status. Story time.. my co-worker (a “Chad”) went to a female doctor for a headache and she told him to quickly get an MRI. I went to the same doctor for headaches and chest pain and she told me to fk off. Was obvious why; moment she stepped into the room, she probably thought “yet another depressed Timothy with his bullchit symptoms.” Saw it on her face, she was giving me the “wtf is wrong with you” look. This is just 1 example, happened on other occasions.


I can probably go on as more things come to my head... but point is, the sentiment is that men are losing so much for fking pussy that can be their downfall.

It’s not fking healthy and my goal in life isn’t to be wincel in 7-8 years. While I don’t wanna be a fking Nintendo switch-playing soy-drinking blue pill *******, I can’t fking stand feeling some radical misogynistic alt-right incel.

Anyone has experience with this sort of stuff? Can you suggest reasons as to why this happened to me and/or what to do about it?

I’d like to stress that I never experienced rejection or anything like that or had any truly traumatic experience with women. I can’t think of a single woman on top of my head that I really hate, just hate them as a whole and idk why.

Cliffs: No cliffs. inb4 “riveting tale, can’t wait for the movie”.
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post 1556321561 07-15-2018, 09:41 AM
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post 1556321731 07-15-2018, 09:44 AM
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Not gonna read all of that chit.
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cuz u a hatefull incel
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Not gonna read that chit.

Put some cliffs you lazy fuk.
skip the list, the list is just me brainstorming reasons as to why this is the case. I’ll put it in a spoiler, or distracts from the overall message and makes it seem longer than it actually is.
post 1556321981 07-15-2018, 09:48 AM
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You care way too much about other people’s lives.

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post 1556322031 07-15-2018, 09:48 AM
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OP, I read your entire post and it's obvious you have homosexual tendancies.

So embrace your homosexuality and come out already; you will be 100% happier.
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Originally Posted By Issobolic28
OP, I read your entire post and it's obvious you have homosexual tenancies.

So embrace your homosexualityand come out already, you will be 100% happier.
I’m not dishonest with myself, I do have homosexual tendencies in the sense that I fap to gay porn every once in a while, and find dinks to be more attractive than vaginas, and I have expressed that sentiment here in the past.

However, I really don’t find anything about men attractive except dink (don’t really find it attractive, just tolerable compared to vaginas), and for women I find everything attractive except vagina.
post 1556322431 07-15-2018, 09:54 AM
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post 1556322511 07-15-2018, 09:56 AM
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On point number 5, I don't think women not doing their homework in college in engineering school helps. Just the number of women that are able to skate by leaves an impact on men's minds that surely effects the hiring/promotion process later on.
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You are like this because you use your pc for stupid chit. You should not use other people's examples of relationships and stuff to manifest feelings. Not good. Go out and find a female as a friend or potential partner. The experience you will have will most likely be different than other people's. I view incels as people who want a reason to hate women because they never TOOK a chance to try and get with one due to lack of whatever. Find a female. Approach. If rejection happens, guess What? One down, billions more to go. Find a hobby or clad to get involved in or volunteer somewhere with people who have a passion for something or who are driven. Quality females there. Oh and I didn't read all your post, chit was a lot.
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Originally Posted By tential
On point number 5, I don't think women not doing their homework in college in engineering school helps. Just the number of women that are able to skate by leaves an impact on men's minds that surely effects the hiring/promotion process later on.
That’s another point I could have added, women have their ways with words and connections. My sister got a pretty good job with a liberal arts degree super quickly, like 3rd job she applied to. I got a good job after college also, but it was after tons of applications and rejections and whatnot. Granted, my field is pretty saturated (CS), but still, she found her job really quickly without much qualifications.
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
skip the list, the list is just me brainstorming reasons as to why this is the case. I’ll put it in a spoiler, or distracts from the overall message and makes it seem longer than it actually is.
Ahhh I see you got me before I edited out the lazy fuk part lol. Seemed a bit harsh.


I'll give it a read later OP.
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
I’m not dishonest with myself, I do have homosexual tendencies in the sense that I fap to gay porn every once in a while, and find dinks to be more attractive than vaginas, and I have expressed that sentiment here in the past.

However, I really don’t find anything about men attractive except dink (don’t really find it attractive, just tolerable compared to vaginas), and for women I find everything attractive except vagina.
That not healthy mane. Go find a real woman. Stop watching pr0n. You have ascended to a level where you are watching things that elude your own sexual preference it seems. I am not trying to judge, but it seems like your perception of reality has been skewed without actually getting involved in the reality around you, you are letting things on a screen do it.
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Agree OP here are my thoughts

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post 1556324921 07-15-2018, 10:28 AM
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Chill homie and **** some hoes. Those examples of girls getting what they want r becuz the dudes that give in r pussies. If you can put girls in place w/ finesse they will probably want to fuk
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post 1556325421 07-15-2018, 10:36 AM
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I am a woman but I dislike women generally. They are a very petty bunch. Rarely rational and very coward. However there are exceptions and those chicks are pretty awesome.

I should despise men as men are renowned for being the most callous and immature group. I can give you a list that can full three pages of unprovoked callous immature stuff men do often enough. Some of which are illegal.
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OP gonna help you out, I was in a similar mindset until recently when I stopped giving a fuk.

There are girls who exist who aren't like what you have mentioned, it's just you won't hear from them or see them shoved in your face everyday with their 14th selfie on instagram for the day. You just have to look harder, and not let those typical sloots cloud your brain. Those types are in your face, loud, obnoxious, everywhere you look it seems, however they aren't all there is.

I met a girl and we always luls walking through the mall seeing some stupid bich with caked on makeup and dumb fuking eyebrows about how stupid it looks. Looks like they painted their face specifically for a certain angle on instagram. She makes a post on instagram maybe once every 6 months or so, and never some attention seeking post shoving her ass out like she has s****osis or something.

Just look harder and stop letting the obnoxious, unbearable people drive you insane. Just filter them out, stop actually taking into consideration what they're saying, just pretend everything they have to say is a joke and it doesn't matter, don't even begin to analyze what these types of people are saying because it is so fuking stupid sometimes it will just drive you insane.
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You're asking Miscers how to not be a racist, women hating virgin? Lol
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Originally Posted By UnT4m3d
You are like this because you use your pc for stupid chit. You should not use other people's examples of relationships and stuff to manifest feelings. Not good. Go out and find a female as a friend or potential partner. The experience you will have will most likely be different than other people's. I view incels as people who want a reason to hate women because they never TOOK a chance to try and get with one due to lack of whatever. Find a female. Approach. If rejection happens, guess What? One down, billions more to go. Find a hobby or clad to get involved in or volunteer somewhere with people who have a passion for something or who are driven. Quality females there. Oh and I didn't read all your post, chit was a lot.
I'm borderline autist so I have always struggled to do these things. That said, as I mentioned, I don't really think that'd be enough to solve this issue. It's not like I haven't met quality women in the past, I have and I have liked them individually. As a whole, though, I still dislike women for whatever reason, some conjectures specified in the OP.
Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Ahhh I see you got me before I edited out the lazy fuk part lol. Seemed a bit harsh.


I'll give it a read later OP.
Nah, you are good, I was being a lazy fk.
Originally Posted By UnT4m3d
That not healthy mane. Go find a real woman. Stop watching pr0n. You have ascended to a level where you are watching things that elude your own sexual preference it seems. I am not trying to judge, but it seems like your perception of reality has been skewed without actually getting involved in the reality around you, you are letting things on a screen do it.
The thing about nofap is that it's HARD. I've been desperately trying to do it for years now, but I just can't quit. I don't really have anything going on IRL besides my job so even if I were to get off the Internet, I'd have nowhere to go.
Originally Posted By eod8989
Agree OP here are my thoughts

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Have fun lifting. I appreciate your insight on your workplace, I work for a tech company so there aren't many women, but it sounds like you're seeing this kind of stuff first-hand. I like how you described them inside their own little tribes, and how you're careful about how you talk to them and how they always gossip and such. Outside of professional stuff, yeah, you can't really say anything to most women that you aren't close with (i.e. family member or girlfriend).

I don't really have an insight as to how it used to be compared to what it is, but it sucks. Regardless, that's the reality of today and these realizations just fk up my life, mind, and personality even more. Maybe I'd rather be completely unaware of these things, or just super indifferent to the point where it never crosses my mind again.
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Sounds like maybe you hate yourself. Usually people who are so deeply unhappy and expressing it through anger against groups of people are projecting their self-hatred on to everyone else. Often insecurities trigger intense dislike of other people.

When I was in my early 20's, I used to be intensely argumentative, and I found my argumentative nature and anger stemmed from insecurity in not being able to demonstrate my own intelligence, which was really one of the only traits that I found in myself worthy of approval.

In retrospect I realized people might not think my opinions were worthy if I wasn't aggressive and confrontational about them. I've seen this with former classmates who eventually realized they were gay. They were so hateful towards anyone perceived as queer, and it seemed they denied their orientation so hard that it comes full circle. They hated queer people as a way of distancing themselves from them and from ever having to examine their own feelings and identity. Lo and behold a few years later, they're out and living their truths and in a much healthier head space.

I'm not saying you're gay or anything like that, just that the problem may be the way you feel about yourself. Often feelings about ourselves are too scary to face, so you project them onto other people without even knowing that you're doing it. It's subconscious, and takes a lot of self-reflection and self-awareness to understandwhyyou are so hateful.
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Read first line and already knew the answer... Get off the misc and go get some pootang *******.
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let me guess...your entire newsfeed and social media is inundated with MGTOW and anti-SJW news?

get rid of your internet connection for awhile. you'll be much happier.
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You're asking Miscers how to not be a racist, women hating virgin? Lol
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
To preface: Of course I’m a virgin and FA (Alone in the trap of X night, ∀X ∈ {all 7 days of the week}), but frankly I’ve never really held a grudge against anyone in particular. I just fapped and used my computer to do stupid chit as life went on.

It’s not directly related to the fact that I never had sex with any, even if I had a girlfriend I’d still hate women.:

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Pretty sure you not getting laid or developing any relationship with a woman is 100% your problem and it’s easier for you to hate them then put yourself out there hence your giant list of rationalizations.
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1. You need to get laid
2. You need something to live for (a career, family, etc).

Get off the computer you unproductive *******
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
Recently (i.e. past 2-3 years), though, I’ve been a pretty hateful person. I don’t show it, and in fact when I talk to people I don’t feel like I hate any of them, but in my mind I just HATE groups of people. Kind of like becoming an incel extremist or a Nazi or something, as most of the hate is directed towards women and I guess non-whites (though I’m not really white myself). What I’m gonna focus on is women since most of the hate is there and it’s pronably the most important (51% of the population!). I don’t know what it is but I fking hate just thinking about them.
I’d like to stress that I never experienced rejection or anything like that or had any truly traumatic experience with women. I can’t think of a single woman on top of my head that I really hate, just hate them as a whole and idk why.
So women haven't donechitto you... but you still hate them. Hell, reading between the lines, it doesn't even sound like you've asked any out.

My bet is that this is coming from reading redpill **** on the internet for years and years, and having no experience with women yourself, you let the internet fill in the blanks for you. Eg doctor gives an MRI to Chad cause she wants to **** him and blows off poor old Timmy because sloots gonna sloot. You know exactly 0 about this situation, what other symptoms Chad has had, if he's visited before and they have been keeping an eye on him, if the Dr. has looked at his symptoms and suspects something more serious - you know literally none of that. From your POV, you are only seeing a female doctor order a test for a good looking male patient, and then you're letting the internet alpha/beta ****, based on things you have literally never experienced firsthand, fill in the gaps for you.

Look, I'm in the same boat as you man. I'm a 23 yo FA engineering student. I've been reading misc redpill woman hate from the last 4 years. But I guess I had the perspective early on to see that that **** was all just the blind leading the blind. You really think a group of adult virgins and older divorced men somehow figured out the truth about women that no one else can see? Or is it more likely that they've established an entire philosophy / pseudo-religion around being a bunch of salty bitter *******s?

Then you add some 18-21 yo guy who's the type to use internet forums past 2010: - guaranteed introvert/loner, overthinker, probably insecure like pretty much all guys are at that age, frustrated and minimally experienced with women - and these redpill guys suddenly present themselves as the guys with all the answers. Never mind their credentials are lacking on their face - they know why girls wants to **** those good looking guys and not you (as if it ain't obvious? as if you wouldn't do the same thing if you had options?), and the problem is you're a beta/your philtrum is too long/women are evil lying sloots/ birth control will destroy Western society. And Timmy on his computer buys in to these bitter *******s' rantings because he simply has no other experience or reference to contradict them. Marinate in that "women are evil/philtrum too long" stuff for a couple years with no other counterpoint and it will **** a guy up mentally. Then you end up where you're at - hating women who have done youabsolutely no wrong.

What you need is a reality check. Get off the misc/FA boards for a couple months and actually get some real-world perspective on this stuff rather than what other people say on an internet echo chamber. I did that when I started to get sucked into the misc woman hate circa 2014, Girls going out with guys shorter than them. Asian guys getting good-looking white girls. Girls going with obvious autists to comic cons and ****. It's an eye opener. And then when you get back on the computer and see some FA dude going "women are genetically HARDWIRED to never love short men", you kind of start seeing that he's just talking out his ass.

And also - when I see someone on the internet going on a rant against women, the litmus test I usually apply is "would this guy be saying this if a good-looking PAWG was giving him attention?" Cause if not, everything he's saying is just sour grapes.

Cliffs - redpill is the blind leading the blind and it's toxic as ****. Get off the internet.
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