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post 1593857391 12-19-2019, 05:58 AM
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Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker discussion thread (Spoilers)

Will be seeing it tonight and see if it is that bad
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Saw it last night.

Spoiler!
In the end of the Skywalker saga, all Skywalker bloodline is dead and Palpatine's grand daughter lives on.

This movie was bad

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is this a spoiler thread? This movie was comically bad and i cant wait to rip into the dozens of plot holes, contrivances, and things that utterly chit on Star Wars lore and logic
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
Saw it last night.

Spoiler!
In the end of the Skywalker saga, all Skywalker bloodline is dead and Palpatine's grand daughter lives on.

This movie was bad

So the leaks were legit. Fuking terrible.

I might rent it one day and watch it while drunk.
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Spoiler!
Also they never explained how Palpatine came back.
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah⏩
is this a spoiler thread? This movie was comically bad and i cant wait to rip into the dozens of plot holes, contrivances, and things that utterly chit on Star Wars lore and logic
do it
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too many cheap pops. by that i mean, too much nostalgia and feel good moments at the sacrifice of quality storytelling. i'm sure a more diehard fan will dig the cameos more than i did. i am a casual viewer

overall it was ok don't get me wrong. also WTF at previews taking 30 whole minutes now. get ready for that.
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I liked force awakens and last jedi. This one is just off imo. It feels empty and just weird. Definitely can still enjoy it but it's not a good movie imo
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Considering how bad all of the reviews have been, it exceeded my low expectations. It wasn't great, but I thought it was miles better than Last Jedi and probably the best of the Disney trilogy. They started in a big hole due to that chitshow that Rian Johnson crapped out in the last one, but I thought they did what they could with it. You can only polish a turd so much. The action was pretty much non-stop and the pace was quick enough to keep people entertained and not have time to notice the glaring plot holes (of which there were several).

The biggest issue I had (for anyone who's seen it) is that there was a scene near the end that would have provided a perfect closure for the whole thing. If the movie had ended right there, the whole movie would have been much more satisfying, but it didn't, and instead they fell into the trap of cliched and formulaic movie endings. That was a disappointment, but I thought it was pretty good for the first two hours.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
do it
seriously, i truly honestly dont have the time for all of them so ill quickly go over some of the worst offenders.

1. They introduce force powers that are disgustingly out of the realm of pre established lore. And they do it JUST to get a character out of a jam or to make their idiotic plot points work. Couple examples:

- Rey and Kylo can use the force to not only heal flesh wounds (like baby yoda) but also to bring someone back from death. This is by far the WORST offender because it renders Anakins fall into dark side meaningless. Palpatine himself said that only one force user has ever been able to cheat death, Darth Plageius, who apparently taught Palpatine and thus causing Anakin to become Vader. Well apparently any ol person can do it now in JarJar Abrams world

- Rey simply just levitates 50 ft in the air while training with Leia (lol). Ok so apparently force users can fly.....but NEVER do so when it could ever have been useful. Rey herself even finds herself in a situation where that would have been useful

- Teleportation of objects is now a thing simply through force skype. Rey teleports a ****ing lightsaber to kylo to save his life. i dont need to explain the can of worms of plot holes this opens

- Palpatine literally raises THOUSANDS of Star Destroyers into the air with an effortless force hand wave

- Palpatine uses force lightening to attack thousands of rebel ships in the sky. all at once.

2. the ****ing opening crawl already ruins the plot. Apparently Palpatine has been waiting in secret waiting for his moment to strike but then just screams throughout the entire galaxy (literally) to announce hes back baby...which then allows Wonder-Rey to find and kill him (with extreme ease btw)

3. Palpatines very existence undermines the entirety of episodes 1-6

4. the entire plot consists of MULTIPLE macguffin fetch quests where JarJar Abrams uses yet another convenient beacon that leads the heroes directly to someone who didnt want to be found in the first place

5. Palpatine has amassed a thousand ship fleet of star destroyers that EACH have ****ing death star canons attached to them. literally each one of those ships can destroy an entire planet. This makes the original death star look completely silly and nonthreatening.

Not only that, they are kept under an ocean of ice but SOMEHOW are fully manned. WHAATTTTTTTT??????

6. half way through the movie Finn is a
general. seriously out of nowhere.
never mentioned once.

7. Rey is Palpatines granddaughter which is already silly to begin with but apparently Palpatine can communicate with the entire galaxy at any moment from anywhere and can amass a thousand deathstar fleet no problem but couldnt figure out Rey was on Jakku to begin with?

ok im done for now but theres literally dozens and dozens more utterly absurd things
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I liked force awakens and last jedi. This one is just off imo. It feels empty and just weird. Definitely can still enjoy it but it's not a good movie imo
it felt empty and weird because there was no buy into the characters. it just threw **** at you like:

Spoiler!
oh Darth Sid is back. and oh Ray is his grand daughter. and oh Leia was a Jedi. and Jedi can heal each other now. and Darth Sid can steal people's soul's like the dementors in harry potter. and Ray and Kylo have a force communication where they can pass things to each other back and forth from across the universe
basically just a bunch of cheap gimmicks. that said, it was still pretty entertaining. nothing like the original three though...or the prequels for that matter.
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I can somewhat understand someone who likes Marvel movies and enjoys just visual spectacle having a good time watching this but...

i honestly cant comprehend how anyone with any sort of respect for basic rules of storytelling and star wars lore could possibly find this movie anything other than downright offensive
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah⏩
seriously, i truly honestly dont have the time for all of them so ill quickly go over some of the worst offenders.

1. They introduce force powers that are disgustingly out of the realm of pre established lore. And they do it JUST to get a character out of a jam or to make their idiotic plot points work. Couple examples:

- Rey and Kylo can use the force to not only heal flesh wounds (like baby yoda) but also to bring someone back from death. This is by far the WORST offender because it renders Anakins fall into dark side meaningless. Palpatine himself said that only one force user has ever been able to cheat death, Darth Plageius, who apparently taught Palpatine and thus causing Anakin to become Vader. Well apparently any ol person can do it now in JarJar Abrams world

- Rey simply just levitates 50 ft in the air while training with Leia (lol). Ok so apparently force users can fly.....but NEVER do so when it could ever have been useful. Rey herself even finds herself in a situation where that would have been useful

- Teleportation of objects is now a thing simply through force skype. Rey teleports a ****ing lightsaber to kylo to save his life. i dont need to explain the can of worms of plot holes this opens

- Palpatine literally raises THOUSANDS of Star Destroyers into the air with an effortless force hand wave

- Palpatine uses force lightening to attack thousands of rebel ships in the sky. all at once.

2. the ****ing opening crawl already ruins the plot. Apparently Palpatine has been waiting in secret waiting for his moment to strike but then just screams throughout the entire galaxy (literally) to announce hes back baby...which then allows Wonder-Rey to find and kill him (with extreme ease btw)

3. Palpatines very existence undermines the entirety of episodes 1-6

4. the entire plot consists of MULTIPLE macguffin fetch quests where JarJar Abrams uses yet another convenient beacon that leads the heroes directly to someone who didnt want to be found in the first place

5. Palpatine has amassed a thousand ship fleet of star destroyers that EACH have ****ing death star canons attached to them. literally each one of those ships can destroy an entire planet. This makes the original death star look completely silly and nonthreatening.

Not only that, they are kept under an ocean of ice but SOMEHOW are fully manned. WHAATTTTTTTT??????

6. half way through the movie Finn is a
general. seriously out of nowhere.
never mentioned once.

7. Rey is Palpatines granddaughter which is already silly to begin with but apparently Palpatine can communicate with the entire galaxy at any moment from anywhere and can amass a thousand deathstar fleet no problem but couldnt figure out Rey was on Jakku to begin with?

ok im done for now but theres literally dozens and dozens more utterly absurd things
I was really holding out hope that this movie was going to be an improvement, but damn, you just shattered those dreams bro
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah⏩
seriously, i truly honestly dont have the time for all of them so ill quickly go over some of the worst offenders.
F'ing hell, definitely not bothering now after reading these. This sounds like some batchit superhero movie now.
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sucked balls, just like all the leak videos on youtube accurately predicted...last jedi was terrible and this one wasn't much better....yes visually there are cool elements, but overall it was dumb. all of the new characters are very unlikable and it makes me not care at all. finn was squandered as a character IMO.
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good scifi movie, terrible star wars movie in terms of continuity


the movie wasn't bad at all as a standalone movie taken at facevalue

0/10 in terms of star wars lore though
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
Spoiler!
Also they never explained how Palpatine came back.
First off explain how this dude had kids that were never ever mentioned and how his son was a complete beta cuck
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Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
F'ing hell, definitely not bothering now after reading these. This sounds like some batchit superhero movie now.
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
Spoiler!
Also they never explained how Palpatine came back.
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
First off explain how this dude had kids that were never ever mentioned and how his son was a complete beta cuck
The timing doesn't really line up, either. Rey is younger than Kylo (Anakin's grandson) and her father (Palpatine's son) is younger than Leia, and Anakin was about 40 years younger than Palpatine, so it was the crinkly old (post RoTS) emperor that was making children to start this bloodline. If they're realistically going to connect Rey to Palpatine, they need at least one more generation in there.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
The timing doesn't really line up, either. Rey is younger than Kylo (Anakin's grandson) and her father (Palpatine's son) is younger than Leia, and Anakin was about 40 years younger than Palpatine, so it was the crinkly old (post RoTS) emperor that was making children to start this bloodline. If they're realistically going to connect Rey to Palpatine, they need at least one more generation in there.
I actually like the idea of Rey's parents being random junk traders from The Last Jedi

Better than her being Palp
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The Rise of Skywalker is a good movie in the sense of providing Star Wars related material and a lot of fan service. The only problem is that there is too much in the movie because it has to close a lot of crap out. The Force Awakens provides the ground work for a new Trilogy with new Characters and plot lines. The Last Jedi then takes all of that, and throws it straight into the fukking garbage. The Rise of Skywalker now in one movie, answer all the questions from TFA, retcon some TLJ stuff, create a new plot line, and then close out THE ENTIRE saga, it's just too much for one movie and for the first time I'll say this Movie could have been better as two movies.

What I want to know is what JJ's original idea was for the characters, I also want to know if Rian Johnson thought about the continuing story after TLJ. Because Rian legit killed Luke and provided no new material in the movie which was kind of pointless.

If they really wanted to bring back Palpatine in this movie, it should have been in the second one. Instead they reintroduce the biggest villain in Star Wars history while also killing him in the same movie, seems kind of lame. I would have liked to see Kylo lose limbs, would have liked to seen Luke turn to the Dark Side with Rey having to put him down, would have liked to see Rey openly using a combination of Dark and Light Powers, would have liked to seen the Knights of Ren with a bunch of lightsabers and actually do chit, how Maz got the lightsaber, etc.
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Anakin and Luke were always the two primary characters in Star Wars. You make a new triology, and the only homage to them is Luke being a bitter hermit who dies pointlessly. Meanwhile you've introduced a NEW character, who has force powers, and you do not put her anywhere in the Skywalker bloodline to begin with, AND then you decide for her to identify as a Skywalker. WTF kind of mental gymnastics is this?????

It's obvious they did not have the story for whole 3 movies planned. They made one movie at a time, and just figured it out as they went along. JJ tried to find a way to put Rey in the bloodline of a jedi/force yielder, so he picks the Emperor who is 10000 years old, and somehow survived the death star explosion in space?
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