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post 1609258431 06-30-2020, 05:00 PM
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Logical fallacy of BLM. Reps to BLMers who can answer this

I talked to a group of white liberal protestors earlier up the street my apartment and am facinated by their logic. As a second generation Spanish/Jew, I could say I am an opressed class. The narrative goes like this



Libtard - "blacks are opressed and experience racism more than other minorities, you wouldn't know unless you're black"

Me - "aside from the anecdotal instances of potential racism, can you point to any specific laws or examples of racism"

Libtard - "Blacks IN GENERAL face far more racism than any other minority group.

Me - "Blacks IN GENERAL have higher rates of violent crime against themselves and the general public, which creates a whole other set of issues.

Before I have a chance to continue..

Libtard - "that's RACIST, you're RACIST, leave us alone racist!

Me - lol okay guys enjoy standing out in the heat, holding signs shouting


Are they are too ignorant to understand that the issues plauging the black community (high crime rates, domestic violence, drugs, poverty) AKA "opression" lies WITHIN the black community itself, not from people outside?

Furthermore, Im all for helping the black community address the issues they are facing and work towards betterment, but blaming other races and shouting out racism does nothing for their plight.


Genuinely baffled by the illogic of grown adults.
post 1609258821 06-30-2020, 05:05 PM
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What's the question?

Having high levels of crime doesn't nullify the fact that blacks experience high levels of racism. Both of those things are part of their culture in America.

The high level of crime probably contributes a fair amount towards racism against blacks.
post 1609259051 06-30-2020, 05:06 PM
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Were these people at least black or no?

It always cracks me up when another white person tries to pull the "you wouldn't know since you aren't black" thing, but somehow they as a non black person does know.
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post 1609259381 06-30-2020, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By CowLivesMatter
what is "high levels" of racism ? How is it measured?
Come on now, if you're going to hate a race, blacks are a pretty popular choice.
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Originally Posted By BorderPatrol505
Me - "aside from the anecdotal instances of potential racism, can you point to any specific laws or examples of racism"
redlining laws which targeted blacks to not be able to get loans to keep them in impoverished areas

Most leftys and those who are pro blm are ideology and emotionally driven, hence most cant make any real arguments that hold up to scrutiny and their beliefs/ ideas are generally in lala land
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post 1609259531 06-30-2020, 05:10 PM
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I believe black do get profiled more then other races, but its for a reason.

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post 1609259861 06-30-2020, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Were these people at least black or no?

It always cracks me up when another white person tries to pull the "you wouldn't know since you aren't black" thing, but somehow they as a non black person does know.
No they were white liberals
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Originally Posted By CowLivesMatter
you speaking for yourself?


"redlining" weren't laws. and they weren't targetting blacks to keep them poor.
Banks have actuaries. They run statistical models. And people from ****ty neighborhoods usually don't get loans, even if they have higher incomes than their ****ty neighbors.
sorry not laws, i guess you'd call it a policy, regardless a government-backed loan program that actively discriminated against blacks

"The Federal Housing Administration institutionalized the system of discriminatory lending in government-backed mortgages, reflecting local race-based criteria in their underwriting practices and reinforcing residential segregation in American cities. The discriminatory practices captured by the HOLC maps continued until 1968, when the Fair Housing Act banned racial discrimination in housing."


"The “redlined” areas were the ones local lenders discounted as credit risks, in large part because of the residents’ racial and ethnic demographics. "

"And people from ****ty neighborhoods usually don't get loans, even if they have higher incomes than their ****ty neighbors." I dunno what to tell you mate, this is a pretty terrible argument and not very convincing

https://ncrc.org/wp-content/uploads/...ch-HOLC-10.pdf

my question is if you're saying people from predominantly black neighbourhoods were deemed undesirable to receive mortgage loans regardless of income, why would people in similar incomes in non red neighbourhoods not be equally discriminated against if their equity is equal?
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post 1609261111 06-30-2020, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By ThisIsMyAlias
What's the question?

Having high levels of crime doesn't nullify the fact that blacks experience high levels of racism. Both of those things are part of their culture in America.

The high level of crime probably contributes a fair amount towards racism against blacks.
Sorry just updated with question
post 1609261371 06-30-2020, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By ThisIsMyAlias
Come on now, if you're going to hate a race, blacks are a pretty popular choice.
Whites and Chinese are more popular
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Well your first mistake was expecting logic and consistency. Once you realize that mistake you understand that it’s probably not worth your time arguing with your virtue-signalling neighbors.
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Is it possible to know what a logical fallacy is while not knowing how to spell it?
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Originally Posted By Frank
Is it possible to know what a logical fallacy is while not knowing how to spell it?
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Originally Posted By ThisIsMyAlias
Come on now, if you're going to hate a race, blacks are a pretty popular choice.
So you don’t have a logical answer. Also that statement sounds pretty racist
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Originally Posted By BorderPatrol505
Are they too ignorant to understand that the issue regarding public safety, violence, opression, poverty, etc AKA "racism" lies WITHIN the black community itself, not from outside influences?
It's easy to sit back and say these liberals are stupid and ignorant, and you wouldn't be entirely wrong. But... I can understand their viewpoint.

It's incomprehensible to believe a community would be so toxic and self destructive. It honestly makes more sense that some big bad boogeyman is manipulating and causing the vast issues that plague the black community. The racism, violence, and drugs are nothing compared to what anyone who tries to better themselves will experience.

Isn't it easier to believe "the system" is holding people back than their own family, friends, and neighbors? Over something so petty as needing everyone else to fail too.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Well your first mistake was expecting logic and consistency. Once you realize that mistake you understand that it’s probably not worth your time arguing with your virtue-signalling neighbors.
very few people base their ideologies/beliefs on a consistent logical framework...
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Originally Posted By BorderPatrol505
Are they too ignorant to understand that the issues plauging the black community (public safety, domestic violence, drugs, poverty) AKA "racism" lies WITHIN the black community itself, not from outside influences?


Genuinely baffled by the illogic of grown adults.
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Originally Posted By A-GAME
Leftists do not use logic. They are broken people (literally).
and trumpers are the epitome of logic and reason right?
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
very few people base their ideologies/beliefs on a consistent logical framework...
Actually no one does, it’s just that some get much closer than others.
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Originally Posted By BorderPatrol505
Are they too ignorant .
Yes. Obviously.
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Too ignorant, biased, and they don't care. I came into the thread intending to potentially defend the BLMers thinking their logical fallacy was something that could be explained away, only to find out their logic actually was incredibly obtuse. Just saying it's racist to bring up statistics is disingenuous. At least some people try to explain the statistics away.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Actually no one does, it’s just that some get much closer than others.
true, i feel their are some robots that are pretty consistent for the most part
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I believe there are some things were systemic racism againstminoritiesis apparent in the law.

For example, why is it that you need to have a higher amount of ******* to be crime and a very little amount of crack? The latter gets stiffer legal punishments than the former. The former is the drug of choice of rich, white people who often get away with a slap on the wrist for possession while the latter can be found in poor neighborhoods mostly used by minorities.

It's that kind of systemic racism that is bothersome.
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