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post 1610875201 07-17-2020, 11:04 AM
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MLB just released its positive test results

The league collected 10,548 samples over the past week, but just six (0.05 percent) returned as new positives.
So MLB is reporting a staggeringly low 0.05% positive test rate and we’re supposed to believe the reports 1% of the entire general population has tested positive?

I’m not talking 1% positive result rate either, I’m talking 1% has been confirmed infected, regardless of testing.


That is a HUGE discrepancy. And before anyone tries to talk about sample size, if you knew anything about statistics you’d know 10,000 is more than representative enough to generalize to the population.

There’s no way you should be seeing such polarizing results.

More evidence to support something is going on with the data we’re being fed.
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Aren't they all in a bubble at this stage? And testing the same people numerous times?
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014⏩
Aren't they all in a bubble at this stage? And testing the same people numerous times?
A bubble? From what? They all live in their own homes in their own communities. It's not like they're sleeping at the stadium. They're as much in a bubble as the electrician who goes in to work every day.
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Which positive results we talking about here OP?

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Why do you think MLB represents the public? lol
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Rich people don't go to the grocery store, local protests or wal-mart. lol at thinking they're like the unwashed masses. It's a life of privilege with limited contact beside with other rich people, son.
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014⏩
Aren't they all in a bubble at this stage? And testing the same people numerous times?
dude do you really think some alpha baseball player is being a 8itch and even rometly taking this ''virus'' seriously ?
as op said with such a huge sample, it should directly reflect whats going on in the population, but it dosent in this case

the infection rate is 2 times higher for the pop. this little data gathering basically shows you that the there is something really fishy going on in the population group .
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you're comparing professional athletes to the general public lmfao goddamn some of you are actually retarded.
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Originally Posted By TheBannedBrah⏩
you're comparing professional athletes to the general public lmfao goddamn some of you are actually retarded.
baseball player , are alpha and probably engage less in social distancing than your average fool, because they arent *******s you know ?

it could be the complete opposite of what you say man
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
So MLB is reporting a staggeringly low 0.05% positive test rate and we’re supposed to believe the reports 1% of the entire general population has tested positive?

I’m not talking 1% positive result rate either, I’m talking 1% has been confirmed infected, regardless of testing.


That is a HUGE discrepancy. And before anyone tries to talk about sample size, if you knew anything about statistics you’d know 10,000 is more than representative enough to generalize to the population.

There’s no way you should be seeing such polarizing results.

More evidence to support something is going on with the data we’re being fed.
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Originally Posted By grey27⏩
I agree with the sentiment, but you are not quite right about the statistics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample...f_a_proportion

Scroll down to the "estimation of a proportion" section. To have 95% confidence the proportion is within 2% points would take a sample size of at most 9604 which is close to the 10,548. Notice that 2% variation is pretty significant compared to 1% claimed infected.
Not to mention this is not a random sample. MLB players are a different population from regular people.
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Originally Posted By sicklecel⏩
Why do you think MLB represents the public? lol
Even if it doesn't, this is a massive discrepancy. What is the actual positive test rate for the general public? I'm posting 1% of the population infected. We're not even bothering with test results.

Granted I admit going off general pop test results will be skewed as more positive because only people feeling ill will likely bother to test. So I didn't bother posting that. But the 1% confirmed of the general pop is lower since asymptomatic aren't likely testing and being counted in the total.

So that 1% of the total general pop is on the low end.

Meanwhile we have 0.05% confirmed test rate in the MLB. Like someone else said this does include being tested multiple times a week, so the actual infection rate is closer to 0.15% total infected since they get tested every other day (meaning roughly 3 times in a week).


This was maybe a bit hard to follow, so let me summarize:
-MLB's total infected rate roughly sits around 0.15%... which is confirmed by testing EVERYONE in the population
-The general pop is reporting 1% confirmed cases
-The general pop doesn't test EVERYONE in the population though like MLB does, so the 1% reported is likely substantially lower if they're being honest


Take all that into account, you actually think the general population is anywhere from 6x - 15x more likely to be infected than MLB players? Occam's Razor... which sounds like a more simple explanation, MLB players are miraculously 15x less likely to contract the virus or we're being fed a bunch of bullsh*t data about the general population.

Which of those sounds easier? LMAO at trying to discredit this.
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Originally Posted By grey27⏩
I agree with the sentiment, but you are not quite right about the statistics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample...f_a_proportion

Scroll down to the "estimation of a proportion" section. To have 95% confidence the proportion is within 2% points would take a sample size of at most 9604 which is close to the 10,548. Notice that 2% variation is pretty significant compared to 1% claimed infected.
Never has there been a greater bungling of what confidence intervals mean. bahahaha

I don't even need to respond to this
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Never has there been a greater bungling of what confidence intervals mean. bahahaha

I don't even need to respond to this
I edited out the post because I was wrong. Since we have an estimate for p=0.01 we should use the sample size

n=4p(1-p)(Z/W)^2

with p=0.01,W=0.005,Z=2.58 (99% confidence) we get n = 10,543 which is close to MLB sample size 10,548. So with 99% confidence the MLB infection proportion should be in the interval [0.005,0.015] but it isn't, it is 0.0005, so the assumption p=0.01 is wrong or we have sample bias with 99% confidence.

I was wrong, I can admit it.
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Originally Posted By dunnie⏩
dude do you really think some alpha baseball player is being a 8itch and even rometly taking this ''virus'' seriously ?
as op said with such a huge sample, it should directly reflect whats going on in the population, but it dosent in this case

the infection rate is 2 times higher for the pop. this little data gathering basically shows you that the there is something really fishy going on in the population group .
They're paid millions of dollars for their athleticism and health. They're probably taking it a lot more seriously than you think.
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Originally Posted By sicklecel⏩
Why do you think MLB represents the public? lol
This gotta factor in FAT OLD RETARDS and liberal cuckhold homos like wincel
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As much as I'm not a panicel, I don't think that's a good arguement. Like someone else said, rich people barely have to do anything in public, if they don't want to. How many MLB (not minor league/farm team) players do you think go out to the grocery store, Walmart, Target, hardware stores, etc. in the first place? Let alone during a pandemic. They might not be in perfect bubbles by sleeping and living exclusively at the stadiums every day, but rich people like them are able to insulate themselves from stuff like this a lot more than the general public can. They can greatly minimize their risk from a catching a virus just like they can drastically reduce their chances of being mugged by street goons by living in gated communities/high end neighborhoods and avoiding the same places I mentioned above that us all normal folks have to go to.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
As much as I'm not a panicel, I don't think that's a good arguement. Like someone else said, rich people barely have to do anything in public, if they don't want to. How many MLB (not minor league/farm team) players do you think go out to the grocery store, Walmart, Target, hardware stores, etc. in the first place? Let alone during a pandemic. They might not be in perfect bubbles by sleeping and living exclusively at the stadiums every day, but rich people like them are able to insulate themselves from stuff like this a lot more than the general public can. They can greatly minimize their risk from a catching a virus just like they can drastically reduce their chances of being mugged by street goons by living in gated communities/high end neighborhoods and avoiding the same places I mentioned above that us all normal folks have to go to.
I’m going to agree with this.

Also we’ve seen that, in general, poorer people are more susceptible to the virus.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
A bubble? From what? They all live in their own homes in their own communities. It's not like they're sleeping at the stadium. They're as much in a bubble as the electrician who goes in to work every day.
lots of athletes have contracts that disallows them to do dangerous stuff... Like you wouldnt want a player with a 100 million dollar 5 year deal who likes to go base jumping on the weekends

I guarantee pro sports teams have put a strong emphasis on staying safe and healthy with these dudes and they live with the means to have anything they need delivered so their risk from going to the grocery etc is non existent
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Lol @ the fkn stupidity.

1) You think an avg MLB player is exposing himself to the general public in the same fashion as everyday people? They stay at home in their mansions, can have whatever they want delivered. They aren't going to fkn walmart buying frozen pizzas.

2) Who do you think is going to be more cautious? The avg wagecel who needs to stand in line at walamart to buy food for the week or an MLB player who has millions to lose if he tests positive for COVID
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Paniccels in 2020: "omg asymptomatic people testing positive, omg so scary"
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lol @ paniccels trying to justify this by saying they're not like normal people.


You're right...these rich celebs are more likely to host parties because they can afford to pay the fineshttps://bleacherreport.com/articles/...spite-covid-19
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not a panicel, but pro athletes should be expected to show less positive tests because corona spreads best in closed, high density spaces such as public transport. pro athletes how high end cars, and dont take the city bus. they typically live outside of the high density metropolitans and can afford for family members to do the same. AKA no apartment buildings or seniors homes.
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Originally Posted By IsLifeRealLife⏩
lol @ paniccels trying to justify this by saying they're not like normal people.


You're right...these rich celebs are more likely to host parties because they can afford to pay the fineshttps://bleacherreport.com/articles/...spite-covid-19
Dak also turned down a HUUGGEE contract recently, so I don't think you can really compare.
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Average Joe: "If I don't go work my traddie job in close contact with a bunch of other traddies, I won't get a pay check and be able to buy food."
Average Joe again: "If I don't go into the grocery store to buy groceries (because I can't afford instacart), I won't be able to buy food and I'll starve."

MLB Player: "If I go out in public and catch Covid, I may not be able to play baseball this year and make $10 million."

Yeah, really good sample.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
A bubble? From what? They all live in their own homes in their own communities. It's not like they're sleeping at the stadium. They're as much in a bubble as the electrician who goes in to work every day.
Huh? They're at Spring Training:https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ps/3260133001/and isolating. What are you talking about they are absolutely not reflective of the general public.

Also these aren't antibody tests, these are just "are you currently infected" tests. There are plenty of legitimate coronavirus-related issues to worry about, but this is a pretty nonsensical argument you're making...
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