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07-23-2020, 08:32 PM
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07-23-2020, 08:42 PM
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Nothing to it just do the following simple things.
(1) Possess a degree in a desireable engineering /technology subject such as aerodynamics, turbine engines, avionics, etc
(2) Somehow find employment in a critical position in either federal government or contractor who has highly classified contracts with the government (USAF, Navy, intel agencies). It will, of course, be pretty much impossible for you to obtain this information.
(3) Once you obtain that employment somehow make yourself essential to the classified projects within that organization. Of coure you will have no idea how to do that since you have no knowledge of any such projects. Maybe there aren’t any in which case you are stuck.
(4) If, and ONLY if, you are determined to be of value to a classified project your supervisors and/or others will decide to clear you and put you on the project. Again….you will have no knowledge that these things are being discussed and agreed behind your back.
(5) You fill out a ton of security clearance forms which your supervisors will submit. You will not be told why you are filling out these forms. Don’t ask. Lots of personal questions on the forms.
(6) Wait about a year or so for your security investigation which will involve friends, neighbors, former employers, etc receiving surprise visits by US investigative services who will ask them all kinds of questions about you. If you are not squeaky clean at this point everything will stop and you’ll never know it had even started. Squeaky clean means no drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling issues, sketchy finances, etc. And no criminal record beyond traffic infractions. Squeaky clean.
(7) If you get your clearance then application is made to the specific project for which you have been identified. They will do another review (one to three months) to decide if you are OK with them…..even though you have a clearance. You still have no knowledge of any of this.
(8) If the project says OK then you will receive a phone call requesting you to show up at some office location somewhere….almost certainly the security office for the project. This will be the first time you have any suspicion that you may be on a project.
(9) You will be asked if you are willing to work on a highly classified project which will have dire ramifications for you if you violate any of the security laws/ rules on the project. You will be informed that criminal prosecution will occur if you knowingly violate any rules. You will be informed that you will be fired and security clearance permanently revoked if you do “only” something unintentional. You sign papers agreeing to the terms. By now you will finally know you are on some classified project.
(10) Someone (manager, senior technical person) will then take you into the classifed area through locked doors and you will be briefed on the details of the project…..FINALLY! Then go to work.
The above generally applies even if the position is lower level such as buildings maintenance or janitor services.
See? Piece of cake….nothing to it.
As to Area 51….you have no control over any of it. You will go there only if someone in position above you decides you are needed there. Here’s the stopper. To what company or agency will you apply for work if you have absolutely no knowledge that they are involved in Area 51….or not?
articular area. A51 has various people employed through Det 3 and Det 1 who are Active Duty Air Force and Contractors. You would want to look at Sandia National Laboratories for scientific jobs. Working at A51 isn't for everyone. You fly in from McCarren via Janet Airlines (it's not glamorous by any means) and back. Otherwise, you take a bus ride for a couple hours each way. The facilities are ok depending on where you work, we have a softball league, on-site bar (we rotate who staffs it) in the dorms (if you want to stay overnight, you can. Many of us do), and other regular activities. The "cool" factor wears off quickly. You just go do a job in the middle of nowhere that you can't tell anyone about, and the fact that you work somewhere that no one can go; well, it just isn't "cool".
(1) Possess a degree in a desireable engineering /technology subject such as aerodynamics, turbine engines, avionics, etc
(2) Somehow find employment in a critical position in either federal government or contractor who has highly classified contracts with the government (USAF, Navy, intel agencies). It will, of course, be pretty much impossible for you to obtain this information.
(3) Once you obtain that employment somehow make yourself essential to the classified projects within that organization. Of coure you will have no idea how to do that since you have no knowledge of any such projects. Maybe there aren’t any in which case you are stuck.
(4) If, and ONLY if, you are determined to be of value to a classified project your supervisors and/or others will decide to clear you and put you on the project. Again….you will have no knowledge that these things are being discussed and agreed behind your back.
(5) You fill out a ton of security clearance forms which your supervisors will submit. You will not be told why you are filling out these forms. Don’t ask. Lots of personal questions on the forms.
(6) Wait about a year or so for your security investigation which will involve friends, neighbors, former employers, etc receiving surprise visits by US investigative services who will ask them all kinds of questions about you. If you are not squeaky clean at this point everything will stop and you’ll never know it had even started. Squeaky clean means no drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling issues, sketchy finances, etc. And no criminal record beyond traffic infractions. Squeaky clean.
(7) If you get your clearance then application is made to the specific project for which you have been identified. They will do another review (one to three months) to decide if you are OK with them…..even though you have a clearance. You still have no knowledge of any of this.
(8) If the project says OK then you will receive a phone call requesting you to show up at some office location somewhere….almost certainly the security office for the project. This will be the first time you have any suspicion that you may be on a project.
(9) You will be asked if you are willing to work on a highly classified project which will have dire ramifications for you if you violate any of the security laws/ rules on the project. You will be informed that criminal prosecution will occur if you knowingly violate any rules. You will be informed that you will be fired and security clearance permanently revoked if you do “only” something unintentional. You sign papers agreeing to the terms. By now you will finally know you are on some classified project.
(10) Someone (manager, senior technical person) will then take you into the classifed area through locked doors and you will be briefed on the details of the project…..FINALLY! Then go to work.
The above generally applies even if the position is lower level such as buildings maintenance or janitor services.
See? Piece of cake….nothing to it.
As to Area 51….you have no control over any of it. You will go there only if someone in position above you decides you are needed there. Here’s the stopper. To what company or agency will you apply for work if you have absolutely no knowledge that they are involved in Area 51….or not?
articular area. A51 has various people employed through Det 3 and Det 1 who are Active Duty Air Force and Contractors. You would want to look at Sandia National Laboratories for scientific jobs. Working at A51 isn't for everyone. You fly in from McCarren via Janet Airlines (it's not glamorous by any means) and back. Otherwise, you take a bus ride for a couple hours each way. The facilities are ok depending on where you work, we have a softball league, on-site bar (we rotate who staffs it) in the dorms (if you want to stay overnight, you can. Many of us do), and other regular activities. The "cool" factor wears off quickly. You just go do a job in the middle of nowhere that you can't tell anyone about, and the fact that you work somewhere that no one can go; well, it just isn't "cool".
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07-23-2020, 09:00 PM
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07-23-2020, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
That sounds kinda alpha tbhNothing to it just do the following simple things.
(1) Possess a degree in a desireable engineering /technology subject such as aerodynamics, turbine engines, avionics, etc
(2) Somehow find employment in a critical position in either federal government or contractor who has highly classified contracts with the government (USAF, Navy, intel agencies). It will, of course, be pretty much impossible for you to obtain this information.
(3) Once you obtain that employment somehow make yourself essential to the classified projects within that organization. Of coure you will have no idea how to do that since you have no knowledge of any such projects. Maybe there aren’t any in which case you are stuck.
(4) If, and ONLY if, you are determined to be of value to a classified project your supervisors and/or others will decide to clear you and put you on the project. Again….you will have no knowledge that these things are being discussed and agreed behind your back.
(5) You fill out a ton of security clearance forms which your supervisors will submit. You will not be told why you are filling out these forms. Don’t ask. Lots of personal questions on the forms.
(6) Wait about a year or so for your security investigation which will involve friends, neighbors, former employers, etc receiving surprise visits by US investigative services who will ask them all kinds of questions about you. If you are not squeaky clean at this point everything will stop and you’ll never know it had even started. Squeaky clean means no drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling issues, sketchy finances, etc. And no criminal record beyond traffic infractions. Squeaky clean.
(7) If you get your clearance then application is made to the specific project for which you have been identified. They will do another review (one to three months) to decide if you are OK with them…..even though you have a clearance. You still have no knowledge of any of this.
(8) If the project says OK then you will receive a phone call requesting you to show up at some office location somewhere….almost certainly the security office for the project. This will be the first time you have any suspicion that you may be on a project.
(9) You will be asked if you are willing to work on a highly classified project which will have dire ramifications for you if you violate any of the security laws/ rules on the project. You will be informed that criminal prosecution will occur if you knowingly violate any rules. You will be informed that you will be fired and security clearance permanently revoked if you do “only” something unintentional. You sign papers agreeing to the terms. By now you will finally know you are on some classified project.
(10) Someone (manager, senior technical person) will then take you into the classifed area through locked doors and you will be briefed on the details of the project…..FINALLY! Then go to work.
The above generally applies even if the position is lower level such as buildings maintenance or janitor services.
See? Piece of cake….nothing to it.
As to Area 51….you have no control over any of it. You will go there only if someone in position above you decides you are needed there. Here’s the stopper. To what company or agency will you apply for work if you have absolutely no knowledge that they are involved in Area 51….or not?
articular area. A51 has various people employed through Det 3 and Det 1 who are Active Duty Air Force and Contractors. You would want to look at Sandia National Laboratories for scientific jobs. Working at A51 isn't for everyone. You fly in from McCarren via Janet Airlines (it's not glamorous by any means) and back. Otherwise, you take a bus ride for a couple hours each way. The facilities are ok depending on where you work, we have a softball league, on-site bar (we rotate who staffs it) in the dorms (if you want to stay overnight, you can. Many of us do), and other regular activities. The "cool" factor wears off quickly. You just go do a job in the middle of nowhere that you can't tell anyone about, and the fact that you work somewhere that no one can go; well, it just isn't "cool".
(1) Possess a degree in a desireable engineering /technology subject such as aerodynamics, turbine engines, avionics, etc
(2) Somehow find employment in a critical position in either federal government or contractor who has highly classified contracts with the government (USAF, Navy, intel agencies). It will, of course, be pretty much impossible for you to obtain this information.
(3) Once you obtain that employment somehow make yourself essential to the classified projects within that organization. Of coure you will have no idea how to do that since you have no knowledge of any such projects. Maybe there aren’t any in which case you are stuck.
(4) If, and ONLY if, you are determined to be of value to a classified project your supervisors and/or others will decide to clear you and put you on the project. Again….you will have no knowledge that these things are being discussed and agreed behind your back.
(5) You fill out a ton of security clearance forms which your supervisors will submit. You will not be told why you are filling out these forms. Don’t ask. Lots of personal questions on the forms.
(6) Wait about a year or so for your security investigation which will involve friends, neighbors, former employers, etc receiving surprise visits by US investigative services who will ask them all kinds of questions about you. If you are not squeaky clean at this point everything will stop and you’ll never know it had even started. Squeaky clean means no drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling issues, sketchy finances, etc. And no criminal record beyond traffic infractions. Squeaky clean.
(7) If you get your clearance then application is made to the specific project for which you have been identified. They will do another review (one to three months) to decide if you are OK with them…..even though you have a clearance. You still have no knowledge of any of this.
(8) If the project says OK then you will receive a phone call requesting you to show up at some office location somewhere….almost certainly the security office for the project. This will be the first time you have any suspicion that you may be on a project.
(9) You will be asked if you are willing to work on a highly classified project which will have dire ramifications for you if you violate any of the security laws/ rules on the project. You will be informed that criminal prosecution will occur if you knowingly violate any rules. You will be informed that you will be fired and security clearance permanently revoked if you do “only” something unintentional. You sign papers agreeing to the terms. By now you will finally know you are on some classified project.
(10) Someone (manager, senior technical person) will then take you into the classifed area through locked doors and you will be briefed on the details of the project…..FINALLY! Then go to work.
The above generally applies even if the position is lower level such as buildings maintenance or janitor services.
See? Piece of cake….nothing to it.
As to Area 51….you have no control over any of it. You will go there only if someone in position above you decides you are needed there. Here’s the stopper. To what company or agency will you apply for work if you have absolutely no knowledge that they are involved in Area 51….or not?
articular area. A51 has various people employed through Det 3 and Det 1 who are Active Duty Air Force and Contractors. You would want to look at Sandia National Laboratories for scientific jobs. Working at A51 isn't for everyone. You fly in from McCarren via Janet Airlines (it's not glamorous by any means) and back. Otherwise, you take a bus ride for a couple hours each way. The facilities are ok depending on where you work, we have a softball league, on-site bar (we rotate who staffs it) in the dorms (if you want to stay overnight, you can. Many of us do), and other regular activities. The "cool" factor wears off quickly. You just go do a job in the middle of nowhere that you can't tell anyone about, and the fact that you work somewhere that no one can go; well, it just isn't "cool".
07-23-2020, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
Will repNothing to it just do the following simple things.
(1) Possess a degree in a desireable engineering /technology subject such as aerodynamics, turbine engines, avionics, etc
(2) Somehow find employment in a critical position in either federal government or contractor who has highly classified contracts with the government (USAF, Navy, intel agencies). It will, of course, be pretty much impossible for you to obtain this information.
(3) Once you obtain that employment somehow make yourself essential to the classified projects within that organization. Of coure you will have no idea how to do that since you have no knowledge of any such projects. Maybe there aren’t any in which case you are stuck.
(4) If, and ONLY if, you are determined to be of value to a classified project your supervisors and/or others will decide to clear you and put you on the project. Again….you will have no knowledge that these things are being discussed and agreed behind your back.
(5) You fill out a ton of security clearance forms which your supervisors will submit. You will not be told why you are filling out these forms. Don’t ask. Lots of personal questions on the forms.
(6) Wait about a year or so for your security investigation which will involve friends, neighbors, former employers, etc receiving surprise visits by US investigative services who will ask them all kinds of questions about you. If you are not squeaky clean at this point everything will stop and you’ll never know it had even started. Squeaky clean means no drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling issues, sketchy finances, etc. And no criminal record beyond traffic infractions. Squeaky clean.
(7) If you get your clearance then application is made to the specific project for which you have been identified. They will do another review (one to three months) to decide if you are OK with them…..even though you have a clearance. You still have no knowledge of any of this.
(8) If the project says OK then you will receive a phone call requesting you to show up at some office location somewhere….almost certainly the security office for the project. This will be the first time you have any suspicion that you may be on a project.
(9) You will be asked if you are willing to work on a highly classified project which will have dire ramifications for you if you violate any of the security laws/ rules on the project. You will be informed that criminal prosecution will occur if you knowingly violate any rules. You will be informed that you will be fired and security clearance permanently revoked if you do “only” something unintentional. You sign papers agreeing to the terms. By now you will finally know you are on some classified project.
(10) Someone (manager, senior technical person) will then take you into the classifed area through locked doors and you will be briefed on the details of the project…..FINALLY! Then go to work.
The above generally applies even if the position is lower level such as buildings maintenance or janitor services.
See? Piece of cake….nothing to it.
As to Area 51….you have no control over any of it. You will go there only if someone in position above you decides you are needed there. Here’s the stopper. To what company or agency will you apply for work if you have absolutely no knowledge that they are involved in Area 51….or not?
articular area. A51 has various people employed through Det 3 and Det 1 who are Active Duty Air Force and Contractors. You would want to look at Sandia National Laboratories for scientific jobs. Working at A51 isn't for everyone. You fly in from McCarren via Janet Airlines (it's not glamorous by any means) and back. Otherwise, you take a bus ride for a couple hours each way. The facilities are ok depending on where you work, we have a softball league, on-site bar (we rotate who staffs it) in the dorms (if you want to stay overnight, you can. Many of us do), and other regular activities. The "cool" factor wears off quickly. You just go do a job in the middle of nowhere that you can't tell anyone about, and the fact that you work somewhere that no one can go; well, it just isn't "cool".
(1) Possess a degree in a desireable engineering /technology subject such as aerodynamics, turbine engines, avionics, etc
(2) Somehow find employment in a critical position in either federal government or contractor who has highly classified contracts with the government (USAF, Navy, intel agencies). It will, of course, be pretty much impossible for you to obtain this information.
(3) Once you obtain that employment somehow make yourself essential to the classified projects within that organization. Of coure you will have no idea how to do that since you have no knowledge of any such projects. Maybe there aren’t any in which case you are stuck.
(4) If, and ONLY if, you are determined to be of value to a classified project your supervisors and/or others will decide to clear you and put you on the project. Again….you will have no knowledge that these things are being discussed and agreed behind your back.
(5) You fill out a ton of security clearance forms which your supervisors will submit. You will not be told why you are filling out these forms. Don’t ask. Lots of personal questions on the forms.
(6) Wait about a year or so for your security investigation which will involve friends, neighbors, former employers, etc receiving surprise visits by US investigative services who will ask them all kinds of questions about you. If you are not squeaky clean at this point everything will stop and you’ll never know it had even started. Squeaky clean means no drugs, alcohol abuse, gambling issues, sketchy finances, etc. And no criminal record beyond traffic infractions. Squeaky clean.
(7) If you get your clearance then application is made to the specific project for which you have been identified. They will do another review (one to three months) to decide if you are OK with them…..even though you have a clearance. You still have no knowledge of any of this.
(8) If the project says OK then you will receive a phone call requesting you to show up at some office location somewhere….almost certainly the security office for the project. This will be the first time you have any suspicion that you may be on a project.
(9) You will be asked if you are willing to work on a highly classified project which will have dire ramifications for you if you violate any of the security laws/ rules on the project. You will be informed that criminal prosecution will occur if you knowingly violate any rules. You will be informed that you will be fired and security clearance permanently revoked if you do “only” something unintentional. You sign papers agreeing to the terms. By now you will finally know you are on some classified project.
(10) Someone (manager, senior technical person) will then take you into the classifed area through locked doors and you will be briefed on the details of the project…..FINALLY! Then go to work.
The above generally applies even if the position is lower level such as buildings maintenance or janitor services.
See? Piece of cake….nothing to it.
As to Area 51….you have no control over any of it. You will go there only if someone in position above you decides you are needed there. Here’s the stopper. To what company or agency will you apply for work if you have absolutely no knowledge that they are involved in Area 51….or not?
articular area. A51 has various people employed through Det 3 and Det 1 who are Active Duty Air Force and Contractors. You would want to look at Sandia National Laboratories for scientific jobs. Working at A51 isn't for everyone. You fly in from McCarren via Janet Airlines (it's not glamorous by any means) and back. Otherwise, you take a bus ride for a couple hours each way. The facilities are ok depending on where you work, we have a softball league, on-site bar (we rotate who staffs it) in the dorms (if you want to stay overnight, you can. Many of us do), and other regular activities. The "cool" factor wears off quickly. You just go do a job in the middle of nowhere that you can't tell anyone about, and the fact that you work somewhere that no one can go; well, it just isn't "cool".
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