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post 1615328541 09-01-2020, 10:14 PM
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SATs and ACTs banned for UC admissions LOL GTFIH

A superior court judge has ruled the University of California system cannot use ACTs or SATs to admit students because it disadvantages low-income students.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/us/un...rnd/index.html
According to a 2015 analysis by Inside Higher Ed, the lowest average scores for each part of the SAT came from students with less than $20,000 in family income. The highest scores came from those with more than $200,000 in family income.
WOW! On average, parents that take life seriously encourage their kids to educate themselves!? And on average, parents that refuse to improve their own lives don't encourage their kids to do the same!? Moon lands on man.


Just fukin LOL at the liberal chit society Cali has become. No more prestigious schools. No more good schools. Inb4 professors leave for other states.
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post 1615328841 09-01-2020, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Professors are the biggest *******s of all.
That's the ironic part. These professors are getting fuked in the azz by their own terrible teachings.
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post 1615328921 09-01-2020, 10:19 PM
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That's a shame. I attended a UC myself. It's arguably the best and most competitive public university system in the country if not the world. This will only dumb down the entire system if GPA is the only academic criteria they have to go by. As we know getting an A at one school might not as hard as getting a B- at another school depending on demographics and such at that school.
post 1615329231 09-01-2020, 10:24 PM
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dummies would rather sue the system than save their money and use the guaranteed acceptance transfer programs from the exceptional CA community colleges which are usually in worse parts of town anyway
post 1615329901 09-01-2020, 10:35 PM
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What a joke.
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post 1615330441 09-01-2020, 10:42 PM
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Who cares

Public education system has been fuked since leftists took over. It’s all indoctrination and brainwashing.
post 1615330721 09-01-2020, 10:44 PM
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Inb4 sub 85 iq at UC Berkley
post 1615330791 09-01-2020, 10:45 PM
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That's what you want, people not smart enough getting into courses then going on and getting jobs because of their associated group regardless of credentials compared to other applicants. Just most bleeding heart liberalism social at play. No-ones at fault, let's drag everything down to one low tier level.

Sucks for people who got their because of their abilities, they'll just be clumped in the same charity assumption.

Can CA ever pass a law or anything that's just not totally ludicrous and laughable?
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post 1615330921 09-01-2020, 10:47 PM
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SAT's are useless anyways

does anyone actually think they mean anything?

i do agree that Cali is banning them for the wrong reasons though
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post 1615331001 09-01-2020, 10:48 PM
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I grew up in a low income area and never heard anyone mention about taking sat. Although I was hanging around with degenerates all the time so I’m just glad I graduated
post 1615331121 09-01-2020, 10:49 PM
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California is trying to pass a law where you can discriminate again. They are quite backwards over there.
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College degrees are just becoming more worthless every year. Get into some kind of skillset profession kids.
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UC crew (went to UCSD)

just fukken LOL

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post 1615331921 09-01-2020, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
But what was higher standard of education, afford tuition and coaching
she said as though her island has universities
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post 1615332121 09-01-2020, 11:06 PM
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college has stopped being about higher education a long time ago. now it's just testing ground for social engineering and brainwashing
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So their college degrees are a joke now? Do they not understand this? They are going to make everyone unemployable lmao
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
But what was pay for higher standard of education, be able to afford tuition and coaching

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness if your parents can afford your leg up”
What the fuk are you talking about?
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cali has gone down the gutter

who was that pro-leftist who drove around la few days ago crying about all the bums and stuff? lol
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wait till November when CA revokes the anti-discrimination laws.
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Wonder if CSUs will follow suit. When I attended CSUF, there were some serious dumbasses in my GE classes. I remember in my Geology course getting a C on one of the exams. I thought I did pretty bad but then the professor told everyone that the average grade for that test was a D. Felt a little bit better about myself after that lul.
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I graduated form their flagship, Berkeley, and didn't take either of those because I was a transfer. I don't even know what those tests look like. I graduated with a 3.7 from Berkeley, an identical GPA to the one I had in community college. It really isn't necessary and probably does disadvantage those who don't have the economic resources to train for those tests.

I am more of a centrist than left leaning, so I don't even have a bias here. In fact, I hated my experience at Berkeley.
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SATs don't work but it's pretty fukking stupid of the judge to throw it out based on that. Definitely feels like an overreach of power. Liberal justices though think they're the Daimyo of their own region though.
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i'm just kinda interested to see what they do base it on then...

and the experiment thereafter

major increase in enrollment? what about money? even if you remove SAT's as a result of low income... low income families prob still can't afford it

edit: i didn't read the article btw. 3:40 am here, passing out
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Yeah, I mean water is wet. Many many many many parents pay for thousands of dollars in SAT tutoring for their kids, and the poor people can't do the same. It's unfair, but it's also fair because although they are doing paid practice they might not always be putting in their 100% effort, from my eyewitness account I'd say the majority of them don't wanna be there and dont even take the practice seriously. Purely speculative, but its just what I noticed. Being poor doesn't stop you from getting a good score, unless you're legitimately dirt poor to not even be able to afford a computer. One good friend of mine was dirt poor af but he went to the library and grinded KhanAcademy every day for most of the summer and ended up getting a perfect score while other affluent kids got pitiful scores despite their prep schools lol. I think its when youre rich, you can afford to make more mistakes and can afford to be lazy/procrastinator as than when you're dirt poor

that being said, my verdict on this is that california dun fuked up bro
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I knew kids that blindly took the SAT without studying for it and they got like 95th+ percentile scores. I also knew loads of kids that actually worked really hard and studied for years for the SAT and also did pretty well.

If the SAT isn't a good indicator for some kind of "intelligence" it's at least a good measure for work ethic. IMO it positively weeds out both dumb and/or lazy candidates regarding college admission. Colleges should want smart kids with high SAT scores AND high GPA's, because you can totally cruise through most high school courses and get a very high GPA if you don't take honors or advanced placement.

SAT is sort of the equalizer. I don't think taking those fancy/expensive SAT prep courses is beneficial, and I don't believe a poor/underprivileged student is missing out if they have even the most basic access to the internet and a strong drive to succeed + time management skills. Pricey tutoring is a legit scam, especially for tests like the SAT. It's like hiring a trainer to follow you around the gym when you're the one picking up the weights lol.
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The dumbing down is happening everywhere. The LSAT will not have the “logic games” section starting at some point in 2023.

Also, currently the UC and CSU and private colleges in California are essentially retard factories—for the most part. Standards are lowered in general, but especially for females and blacks and homosexuals. Grade inflation is the norm. A lazy shiftless black lesbian can get A’s and B’s in liberal arts/humanities majors or B’s and C’s in STEM majors and then get a MA or MS without actually learning anything but some woke sjw terminology and speaking points. All of it paid for by student loans and federal and state grants and scholarships for homosexuals, females, or blacks only.

If our black lesbian has some basic intelligence and a little ambition, she can even get a PhD. There are cohorts made exclusively for the aforementioned groups and they all but actually type the dissertation for the retards...Africana studies, chicana/o studies, Jewish studies, gender studies, queer studies, sociology, poly sci, history, philosophy, etc., are all open fields for sjw’s.

Some of the professors I encounter, especially a lot of the younger females, are incredibly stupid. You can tell they were basically handed their doctorate because they had a vagina or took shots in the ass or they were black.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40
College degrees are just becoming more worthless every year. Get into some kind of skillset profession kids.
fck you ******* im gettin a humanities degree btch id fck u up in a fight
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tbh tho its not surprising that it got stricken down because the more times you take it the higher your score

that **** costs around $100 a pop i knew kids that took it like 6 times
Originally Posted By deft0nes
I knew kids that blindly took the SAT without studying for it and they got like 95th+ percentile scores. I also knew loads of kids that actually worked really hard and studied for years for the SAT and also did pretty well.

If the SAT isn't a good indicator for some kind of "intelligence" it's at least a good measure for work ethic. IMO it positively weeds out both dumb and/or lazy candidates regarding college admission. Colleges should want smart kids with high SAT scores AND high GPA's, because you can totally cruise through most high school courses and get a very high GPA if you don't take honors or advanced placement.

SAT is sort of the equalizer. I don't think taking those fancy/expensive SAT prep courses is beneficial, and I don't believe a poor/underprivileged student is missing out if they have even the most basic access to the internet and a strong drive to succeed + time management skills. Pricey tutoring is a legit scam, especially for tests like the SAT. It's like hiring a trainer to follow you around the gym when you're the one picking up the weights lol.
agree 100%, but unfortunately when you look at it in the way it was presented to the court it does provide an advantage for people who can afford to take it multiple times.

Make it free or cap the amount of times kids can take it, boom.
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SAT was the only way to get some merit based scholarships when I was white. They already have a million income and race based scholarships. They also want all kinds of ****gy meaningless activities like drama club this or oh you were on the JV team for that, which is all meaningless information as far as your ability to finish college.

The SAT is a fair metric because everyone takes the same test. It has been a problem for marxists now for a while because its a metric that reveals the truth in their actions, so marxist do what marxist do and anything that goes against their ideology they ban.

Theres only like 4-5 degree areas that are even worthwhile and if you cant do decent enough on the SAT you cant excel in those anyways. Do you know what the asian kids scores looked like at my stemcel highschool, they had lower english scores but high math scores to balance it out and did fine. A lot of them their parents main language isnt even english.

The only way for colleges to deal with an influx of dumber kids is to lower the standards, otherwise everyone will be bitching saying the professors are all failing them. Most of these degrees were already worthless 20 years ago, I cant imagine what a communications or sociology class looks like after theyve dumbed it down another level.
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Originally Posted By ayyy
tbh tho its not surprising that it got stricken down because the more times you take it the higher your score

that **** costs around $100 a pop i knew kids that took it like 6 times

agree 100%, but unfortunately when you look at it in the way it was presented to the court it does provide an advantage for people who can afford to take it multiple times.

Make it free or cap the amount of times kids can take it, boom.
So what, college cost money, everything in life costs money, if you make more money you live a better life its absurd to try to remove all advantages of money, that is the idea of the communist, to take away all advantages and incentives to pursue wealth. The test is only $65, hell it was over 100 back in the day. I think a 17-18 year old could get a part time job and afford $65 if it was important to them. Most of these "poor" kids have shoes that cost more.
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