https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-focus-lockjaw


I remember this stuff. It did give insane energy levels but to the point it was uncomfortable IMO. Shaking with energy, followed by a headache crash and chit nights sleep.
Literally sounds like a copypasta:

Obviously I was curious: I was 19; I was stupid. I bought a pot of the stuff from someone at the gym. I'd never taken a pre-workout supplement before but had only just got into intense cardio so was a sponge for anyone who wanted to give me advice. If the pros said this would transform my training, that was good enough for me.

I remember the first time I tried it. I took a single scoop on an empty stomach about 40 minutes before my workout, and about 30 minutes later felt totally pumped. My hands were tingling, then my head and then my whole body.

The focus was amazing. I literally had tunnel vision. The motivation was mad. I'd never pushed myself that hard in the gym. I could do anything and my muscles never felt like they would tear. I didn't feel any burning; just that I could lift whatever I wanted.

Full article:

It wasn't just that people were talking about it like it was this god-given miracle; you could see the effects. People who had come to the gym to stand around chatting were suddenly on fire. They became fiends. They'd be lifting weights 30% heavier than they ever had before, for rep after rep. They'd work out for hours then run around the gym looking for more things to lift. They wouldn't want to go home.

Obviously I was curious: I was 19; I was stupid. I bought a pot of the stuff from someone at the gym. I'd never taken a pre-workout supplement before but had only just got into intense cardio so was a sponge for anyone who wanted to give me advice. If the pros said this would transform my training, that was good enough for me.

I remember the first time I tried it. I took a single scoop on an empty stomach about 40 minutes before my workout, and about 30 minutes later felt totally pumped. My hands were tingling, then my head and then my whole body.

The focus was amazing. I literally had tunnel vision. The motivation was mad. I'd never pushed myself that hard in the gym. I could do anything and my muscles never felt like they would tear. I didn't feel any burning; just that I could lift whatever I wanted.

I was sold on it. I began using it almost every time I worked out – giving myself a day or two off every so often. Some people said the effects got less for them over time but that never happened with me.

Other people complained of itching – sometimes so badly that it felt like ants were crawling over their body – migraines and weird burnouts, where they'd suddenly crash in the middle of training and be almost unable to move, they'd be so lethargic.

I didn't have any of that. It was amazing. I felt so pure and positive. I'd stay in the gym for hours with this laser-like focus. The only downpoint was that when I got home after exercising, I couldn't eat. It was actually hard work to get a protein shake down me. Sleeping was also a problem: I learnt not to take Jack3d less than 10 hours before I wanted to sleep. There was no point: sleep would be impossible.

I gradually upped my dose. After a few months, I was taking three and sometimes four scoops. I was beginning to get worried about the way my heart started racing when I was exercising hard. Then one day, my muscles suddenly failed in the middle of an exercise and I crashed. I felt totally out of it, like I was drugged.

I thought I had pushed myself too hard and gave myself a day off. But the next day I nearly passed out just walking the stairs to the gym. Still, I just assumed I'd been driving myself too hard. I took a few days off but continued with the Jack3d when I went back to the gym again. Over the next few months, the comedowns got worse. One time I actually had lockjaw. The way the drug made my whole body tingle and my stomach burn began to worry me. I began feeling nervy when the drug wore off.

I'd been taking Jack3d for around five months by this time and the chat around the gym was becoming more critical. The most intelligent people were doing their own research into the ingredients and deciding it wasn't as safe as they'd all thought.

I stopped using the stuff after waking up a few nights in a row with my heart racing in a really scary way. It only lasted for less than a minute but it freaked me out.

It was the beginning of the end of my fascination with the gym. Once I stopped taking Jack3d, working out wasn't as exciting as it had been and I began feeling it wasn't such a cool place to be anyway: I realised I'd been idolising men who were prepared to take stupid risks with their health for the sake of a few muscles.

I wasn't at all surprised that Jack3d was banned last year. I'm no longer part of that world but I'd be surprised if there wasn't another supplement being taken now, that will be discovered to be just as dangerous a few months down the line.

Damn I miss that feeling of the OG Jack3d. I'll never forget the first time I took it. I felt like I could punch holes in concrete, lol.....

The crash from it was brutal though, and after about 3-4 weeks of use it made me feel super lethargic. Wonder what was really in that stuff.....

Driving to the gym off my tits on that stuff. Hands shaking like a dope fiend. Not good.

I feel bad for anyone who didn't get to try the OG jack3d.


Tfw thinking about the golden days:

That focus was insane, same thins with Oxy Elite Pro for weight loss.

DMAA.

According to research, it was similar to ******* and meth. Srs.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ral_Hemorrhage

Never had burnouts or any of those sides on jack3d, same with nanovapor, but stopped taking them because I started considering the potential risks in long term usage, will never use a preworkout again, only coffee

That's what it was, now I remember.....

I'm curious. Tell me more

DS Craze >>>>Jack3d


If you know, you know

OG craze was GOAT.

This. Was addicted to that stuff. Felt god like, but could literally see it shrink my veins to a quarter their normal size. Not to mention my dink would almost disappear on it. I used for a couple years, and wonder if I did any long term damage.

This

Craze was the goat

Yea I quit jacked after a couple embarrassing smash sessions with the GF. Couldn’t get a boner after taking it lol

The original was basically like smoking meth.

Brb lemme run thru this wall

1,3 Dimethylamylamine

OEP was great at appetite suppression

The new one



https://youtu.be/_H3Kp3IxqFk

We should start a stim dik support group bro.

Used to love that stuff.....

Forgot about this one too! I caught the tail end of it, before it was banned.

I remember taking 3 scoops of the original. Never had a crash. No idea how I’m still alive today

Lol'd @ this line

Holy **** repped, I was thinking this whole time 'I tried something way stronger than Jack3d' and I couldn't remember the name.
This was it.
I wonder what was in it.. my focus would go WAY up.

i remember taking it for the 1st time back in 2006, felt like ants biting my back i was 18 at the time and remember thinking "i'm going to have a heart attack" lmao i was such a *******

I think i started using jack3d 10 years ago ? I was using another Pre-workout at the time prior to it. i kept hearing how jack3d was a whole different animal. At the time, i was training 6 days a week, intense workouts, really was a lifestyle at the time for me.

At the time it was like 50 bucks for the **** and decided to bite the bullet on it. first workout, ill never forget, i was doing back and as i was doing lat pulldowns i got extreme tunnel vision, got lightheaded as ****, and started sweating like crazy. stopped midway through my workout, walked into the locker room, grabbed my jug of jack3d and gave it to a WWE wrestler that was in there working out at the time.

I quit taking pre-workouts that contained any stimulants other than caffiene in them. scared the **** out of me.

It is closely related to ephedrine, psuedo ephedrine and thus somewhat amphetamine/meth. It can give false positives for meth just the same as psuedo ephedrine. It was only really used after the crackdown on ephedra. There are supplements that still say they have it because its never been scheduled so its not illegal to possess, just FDA says cannot be used in supplements.

I had one time I almost feinted after a hard run, like an hour after the run though not immediately. Had taken oxyelite that day and it scared the fuk out of me, went to the doctor and they ran an ekg and said it was normal. Never did cardio on that again. I would be at work pounding away and people would be like why dont you drink coffee where do you get your energy from... lol oxyelite had me wired as fuk. It made me sweat like crazy though.

Back in the day it wasn uncommon for supplements to be tainted with all kinds of chit though so who knows if they had actual controlled substances in anything which is horrible for people that need to be drug tested for work. The very first phenibut i bought back in like probably 2007 seemed a lot stronger than any of the later purchases I had and I wouldnt be surprised at all if it had something off label in it.

i dont use supplement anymore though waste of money these days. dmaa was a bit to strong to really be working out on anyways and was a heart risk.

That is what I had, tunnel vision and almost fainted in a gas station like an hour after a run. I remember in the gas station thinking "chit is this is how its going to end, am i going to die in a gas station" lol


Then the doctor i saw later that day not the most helpful guy, is saying well maybe you had a heart attack. like thanks dude but it ended up fine. lmao never again used that as a preworkout.

My friend saw the horizon closing on Jack3D and he bought a bunch of tubs before it got banned. We were next door neighbors in our freshman year of college so we started to lift together and that's when he offered to sell me one tub. It was the first time that I actually thought I could flip my car, run through a brick wall, and then beat the incredible hulk. The gains I made in that time period was insane, but it was just too expensive to keep going.

Nothing has come close to it since them, but Mr. Hyde was pretty solid too.

Anyone remember the OG superpump 250? That had to have some type of illegal chemical in it, I swear to god I have never had a pump like that before or since, and that was over 12 years ago

original jack3d was indeed insane



would have a killer workout, come home and fap, and then crash HARD