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post 1617922871 09-29-2020, 11:26 AM
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anyone ever cancel their union membership?

How hard was it to leave? I been trying to leave for the past two weeks and they keep giving me the run around. Every time I call they keep saying someone will call me and it never happened. Finally they told me I have to send a written letter to their headquarters to cancel which I'm confused to why they didn't tell me that in the first place. I just sent the letter today which will go to their head quarters in another city, and every year you only get a month to cancel. Their run a rounds already cost me two weeks. If it doesn't get canceled in time I have to wait another year.
post 1617923121 09-29-2020, 11:29 AM
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I have never been involved with one.

I can see how they would be both beneficial and a hassle though. If I understand them correctly.

It sounds like you are dealing with a very cliche bureaucracy.
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post 1617923371 09-29-2020, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
I have never been involved with one.

I can see how they would be both beneficial and a hassle though. If I understand them correctly.
They take about 2 grand from me a year and haven't really done anything since I been there. When looking at the pros and cons there are no downsides to opting out besides not being able to vote. They still have to represent if you you were to get in trouble for whatever reason and if they do get raises for everyone it still applies to you.
post 1617923831 09-29-2020, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By scythiss1
They take about 2 grand from me a year and haven't really done anything since I been there. When looking at the pros and cons there are no downsides to opting out besides not being able to vote. They still have to represent if you you were to get in trouble for whatever reason and if they do get raises for everyone it still applies to you.
Interesting. Seems like a pretty easy answer.

Honestly man, while I’m not familiar with unions I am familiar with bureaucracy. If you wanna to get it done, you need to be relentless in annoying them. Calling multiple times a day, trying to talk to anyone and everyone about it.

Be very direct about expressing your concerns about the upcoming deadline.

Annotate everything, dates/times/names. Follow up with emails etc. show them that you are annotating it as well.

Ex: “To follow up with an earlier phone conversation I had with EOD at 2012 on 2012, I am requesting blah blah blah.

It shouldn’t have to take all that work to get a simple thing done, but sometimes it does. And it sucks. Be the squeaky wheel man.


Edit: oh, and CC a lot of people on the emails. Just annoy the ever loving chit out of them.
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post 1617924471 09-29-2020, 11:45 AM
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Pretty much went through the same deal you are. Small window to cancel but of course can join at any time. Sent the union management a complaint letting them know what I thought of that and a few other issues and none of them ever bothered to respond in writing though some did verbally make it clear if you weren't a member, don't count on much representation even if they were supposed to represent everyone. Later on after new management took over I did rejoin and things have improved at least somewhat.
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post 1617924711 09-29-2020, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By MrQuint
Pretty much went through the same deal you are. Small window to cancel but of course can join at any time. Sent the union management a complaint letting them know what I thought of that and a few other issues and none of them ever bothered to respond in writing though some did verbally make it clear if you weren't a member, don't count on much representation even if they were supposed to represent everyone. Later on after new management took over I did rejoin and things have improved at least somewhat.
When was this? from what I heard and read they still have to represent you if you ever get in hot water, and all the raises still apply to you. They said you just can't vote on upcoming things. I wonder if it has changed since you last opted out.
post 1617924841 09-29-2020, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By scythiss1
When was this? from what I heard and read they still have to represent you if you ever get in hot water, and all the raises still apply to you. They said you just can't vote on upcoming things. I wonder if it has changed since you last opted out.
It was probably 10 years ago. I think they'd probably still "represent" you but not with the same enthusiasm, let's put it that way.
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post 1617924981 09-29-2020, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By MrQuint
It was probably 10 years ago. I think they'd probably still "represent" you but not with the same enthusiasm, let's put it that way.
hmm maybe I should reconsider. I'm not dumb enough to get into hot water at work but it's always possible. Just 2 grand yearly feels like throwing away free money.
post 1617926621 09-29-2020, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By scythiss1
hmm maybe I should reconsider. I'm not dumb enough to get into hot water at work but it's always possible. Just 2 grand yearly feels like throwing away free money.
I never had any issues when I dropped out so I can't say for sure what they would have done but I think less than enthusiastic representation for non dues paying members is probably fairly accurate. I hear you though, I was pissed at paying dues for a union chapter that hardly represented the office I was in. A couple years after when a new chapter president came in and I saw improvements I joined back up and I'm still a member now.
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post 1617926791 09-29-2020, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By MrQuint
I never had any issues when I dropped out so I can't say for sure what they would have done but I think less than enthusiastic representation for non dues paying members is probably fairly accurate. I hear you though, I was pissed at paying dues for a union chapter that hardly represented the office I was in. A couple years after when a new chapter president came in and I saw improvements I joined back up and I'm still a member now.
I’ve only been at my job for 3 years but according to everyone else there hasn’t been raises in 12 years and minimum wage keeps going sky high in California which is raising everything else. An extra 2 grand a year would be nice.
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