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Forum » Liberals: Why do you believe guns need to be regulated?

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Voters: 39.
Liberal: No, just make it harder for law abiding citizens to own guns
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Liberal: Ban all Firearms, only the government should be armed
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Conservative: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
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Liberals: Why do you believe guns need to be regulated?

Would you support a full ban?
If democrats wanted to ban, would you vote republican?
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Heroin, crack, murder, rape..they all existed before they were banned now they don't. Same would apply to guns
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Because they make me feel unsafe and no one should own a weapon in a civilized society.

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We are past the point of no return and nothing can be done with FEAR being marketed by 1 party,harder than actual policy.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
We are past the point of no return and nothing can be done with FEAR being marketed by 1 party,harder than actual policy.
On the subject of fear. I was bored the other day and taking a simulation of the test required to pass the Canadian firearm safety course when this little gem came up. Now I don't know the validity of this claim, since this is a third party app, but if true, it is fuked up that a gun, which meets the criteria of a certain class, can be moved to a stricter class depending on how the public views it.

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Ther was this dude named william cooper in navy intelligence he said tht the government will stage gun violence so they can take guns away from ppl so the ppl can’t fight against the government....thts where the libtards r wrong they hv very superfical thinking never realizing tht these r planned attacks.
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Liberals dont like guns because its harder to loot chit when the owners are armed
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Conservatives love the war on drugs and it has proven to be very successful. Thus, anyone who supports the war on drugs should logically support a war on guns.
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Been in the market lately and have been encouraged by all the CA gun owners and gun shoppers lately. The more people who legally want to own a gun, and find out how difficult it is, the better the chance the laws will change.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Liberals dont like guns because its harder to loot chit when the owners are armed
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
Been in the market lately and have been encouraged by all the CA gun owners and gun shoppers lately. The more people who legally want to own a gun, and find out how difficult it is, the better the chance the laws will change.
In SD at prior employer everyone was anti-gun. Like they wanted all guns to be banned. I feel like this is how many liberals think, so no change will happen.
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Its not that liberals want to ban guns. They use guns as much as cuckservatives.

Its just that they're not beholden to semi automatic machine guns and the NRA
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I'll give you my OPINION, but I just ask that you don't neg me for it. I think this is what most 'liberals' want with gun control. First, we want the assault weapons ban back that was in place before GWB was president and let it expire. Guns made for military combat don't need to be in the hands of civilians. Sure, they're fun to use, and may provide protection, but for the greater good, we have to keep them out of the hands of nuts like the guy in Las Vegas who shot up that concert.

Second, we want to see a ban on extended magazines. If you're using them for sport like hunting, you don't need that many bullets in a single magazine.

Third, we want real good and thorough background checks on gun buys. Close the gun show loophole to prevent straw purchases. Check the history of the persons mental state, whether they've been to prison, whether they have domestic violence charges against them, shìt like that.

I even believe there could be an exemption on the assault weapons if you prove you're in an area where you need something like that. Like if you live in an extremely rural area, or you live on the Mexican border. I think the bureaucracy they have setup now to get a license from the ATF is probably too hard for average citizens to do, but maybe that's a good thing - I don't know. I don't think people should be able to buy machine guns unless it's for a very specific purpose, like what Forgotten Weapons does on YT, where they show the history of the gun, fire it, explain it, etc, etc. I don't think people should be able to buy silencers/suppressors either. I'm sure someone will make an argument that it can be used for legitimate purposes - but that's the catch. All this stuff can be used for legitimate purposes, butfor the greater goodwe all have to be willing to give up a little bit of our freedom to stop this crisis of mass shootings in America. Easy access to military style weapons of war is just makes it too easy for nuts to get ahold of these weapons.

That's my opinion, again, I ask you not to neg me, just debate your points in a civil and reasonable manner and we'll discuss it.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Conservatives love the war on drugs and it has proven to be very successful. Thus, anyone who supports the war on drugs should logically support a war on guns.
if your argument is to change the subject to something else and use a logical fallacy then you dont have an argument
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Its not that liberals want to ban guns. They use guns as much as cuckservatives.

Its just that they're not beholden to semi automatic machine guns and the NRA
Democrats had congressional majority under obama (twice i think). If they wanted to end the war on drugs, they could have. But they didnt. They act like they hate it, but it makes them rich also
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Even logical conservatives would agree that there are elements of guns that need to be regulated.

It's only the retarded rightards that assume practical steps such as background checks at gun shows, etc. amounts to people wanting to ban guns.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Liberals dont like guns because its harder to loot chit when the owners are armed
honestly, I think this

I think it's mostly white libs that think banning guns would protect minorities from evil patriarchs that shoot them just because they break into their house, etc.
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what about liberals who don't believe guns need to be regulated?
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
what about liberals who don't believe guns need to be regulated?
I think they are called libertarians
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13⏩
Even logical conservatives would agree that there are elements of guns that need to be regulated.

It's only the retarded rightards that assume practical steps such as background checks at gun shows, etc. amounts to people wanting to ban guns.
The logical law a while back was project exile which would send criminals who have an illegal gun into prison for a loooong time. Then democrats said it was racist because minorities can't help but own an illegal gun and that the law was unfairly targeting minorities. And that was that.

Complete BS
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13⏩
Even logical conservatives would agree that there are elements of guns that need to be regulated.

It's only the retarded rightards that assume practical steps such as background checks at gun shows, etc. amounts to people wanting to ban guns.
I agree but int his case, i feel that giving into to the (normally) ridiculous leftist demands would just give them more power. They already abuse their vocal majority power by blowing up small issues (issues that are actual issues but arent HUGE issues though) into GIGANTIC issues much bigger than they really are.

Leftists only want the 2A banned because of law abiding citizens. They only want to make it harder for us law abiding citizens to protect ourselves. They have yet to proffer ANY LEGISLATION WHATSOEVER on how to take the guns away from the felons in gangs who shouldnt have them int he first place. But then again, thats who they want to protect. Their fellow lifelong criminals
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Originally Posted By PartyGuy414⏩
I'll give you my OPINION, but I just ask that you don't neg it.
OK but my question was if Democrats wanted to ban guns (openly) would you support it even if it meant losing all your firearms?

Or would you vote republican?
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13⏩
Even logical conservatives would agree that there are elements of guns that need to be regulated.

It's only the retarded rightards that assume practical steps such as background checks at gun shows, etc. amounts to people wanting to ban guns.
Yes and no. It's important to remember that we have arightto own a gun. So, I either have a right to a gun or I don't have a right. If I have a right, then I should be able to buy whatever and whenever I want. I actually don't have a problem with the CA HSC (handgun safety code), but I do have a problem with waiting periods and only being able to buy one handgun every 30 days. Those are infringements on my rights. Nobody says that you have a right to free speech, but only every 30 days.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
what about liberals who don't believe guns need to be regulated?
Then you're conservative in the eyes of the democrats.
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
Yes and no. It's important to remember that we have arightto own a gun. So, I either have a right to a gun or I don't have a right. If I have a right, then I should be able to buy whatever and whenever I want. I actually don't have a problem with the CA HSC (handgun safety code), but I do have a problem with waiting periods and only being able to buy one handgun every 30 days. Those are infringements on my rights. Nobody says that you have a right to free speech, but only every 30 days.
Forgot to mention ccw shouldn't be dependent on the government.
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Liberals: because they make loud noises that scare me
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It's interesting that in America a liberal is a political term for something that in many cases is not very liberal, it's nothing liberal about a ban or restriction.
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Originally Posted By Better
I think they are called libertarians
Not in California. Everyone calls themselves libertarians but vote for democrats or bernie.
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Originally Posted By Archheretic⏩
It's interesting that in America a liberal is a political term for something that in many cases is not very liberal, it's nothing liberal about a ban or restriction.
It's because liberals think minorities will shoot themselves since we are apparently too dumb to figure out how to get a driver's license in the USA, and we are too dumb to use a gun.

But on a serious note. Open carry was banned in California because white liberals thought it was scary to see black Republicans with guns openly carrying. And that's the day gun rights went downhill in the state.
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