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Would you let your son play football/contact sports?

Watching a game and saw a reference to the CTE discussion and its impact on football in the future. Curious what most of you think.

Hypothetically, I would. Reason being that over the years thousands of kids have played and then gone on to lead normal lives. I even saw a study once that said that kids who played hs football in the decade following WWII didn't suffer from neurodegenerative diseases at a higher rate than their non-playing peers. The caveat, though, was that the nature of the game and size/speed/strength of players has changed drastically. Still, I think the majority who play aren't severely affected later on.
post 1624679831 12-06-2020, 01:19 PM
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No, I'm going to buy him dresses and use gender neutral pronouns instead so they can choose for themselves.
post 1624679901 12-06-2020, 01:20 PM
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I would not let him NOT play contact sports, just not football or rugby. One of the softer ones. Team sports seem essential for development.
post 1624679931 12-06-2020, 01:20 PM
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post 1624680031 12-06-2020, 01:22 PM
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Yes I would. CTE typically occurs later in their career like College/NFL once multiple concussions happen. Risks will always exist in life. Would rather my hypothetical kid play football than turn into a SJW snowflake.
post 1624680181 12-06-2020, 01:24 PM
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Rugby is pretty good for CTE (there are not many retired players who got it). I have NFI how NFL players like WR and safeties who make those 40kmph collisions do not get CTE. I'm surprised half of retired players don't have it, perhaps the threshold for CTE is quite high which is promising.
post 1624680311 12-06-2020, 01:26 PM
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Fiancée is against it but I need my kids to do some sort of highly physical sport. MMA, football, boxing, BJJ, something. Can’t be raising snowflakes
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post 1624680761 12-06-2020, 01:32 PM
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I live in AUS and looking back the kids that played rugby ended up physically looking way better than the kids that didn't.
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OP i would. better off letting your kid understand the physical realms of reality. So many twinks these days approach bloat lords to fight and get there asses handed to them, i think a big reason for this is cause as kids they never learned size and athletic ability does matter.

I played football some years in elementary school and some years in highschool. Not a single regret.
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post 1624681181 12-06-2020, 01:36 PM
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yeah and he gone play in such a fashion he earns the name 'hammerhead'
post 1624681221 12-06-2020, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By BritishTwit
I played rugby so yes haha (in b4 it shows). Wouldn't make him but would definitely encourage him into that or similar - it would make him more of a man IMO, toughen him up a bit.

Never even really thought about that sort of thing tbh, but I'm sure others will have more thought though opinions.
Yeah, i think it's good for character. And encouragement rather than force is definitely the path to go.
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No, I'm going to buy him dresses and use gender neutral pronouns instead so they can choose for themselves.
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Originally Posted By Sophus
I would not. I'd let them train martial arts as long as the sparring was kept light and they couldn't fight atleast until they were 18. Tackle football is just hard crashes inevitably, bad for the developing brain.

Look at Joe Biden. He played football for a couple years in college.

You can point to any number of dudes who played a decade+ in the league and are fine today. That's what I find puzzling. It seems like a small minority get CTE, but I do see where you're coming from.
Originally Posted By mesobuild
I would not let him NOT play contact sports, just not football or rugby. One of the softer ones. Team sports seem essential for development.
I agree with the bit about team sports. I think it's a great way to socialize kids and have them learn to compete against and work with others.
Originally Posted By Ken-O
If thats his passion, thats his passion.
That's a good approach. I don't think it's good to prevent kids from doing stuff they're really keen on. Especially something like sports that offers so many other benefits.
Originally Posted By Xerve
Yes I would. CTE typically occurs later in their career like College/NFL once multiple concussions happen. Risks will always exist in life. Would rather my hypothetical kid play football than turn into a SJW snowflake.
This is more or less where I stand on the matter as well. I haven't really seen anything about kids who stopped playing in HS getting debilitating CTE.
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Rugby is pretty good for CTE (there are not many retired players who got it). I have NFI how NFL players like WR and safeties who make those 40kmph collisions do not get CTE. I'm surprised half of retired players don't have it, perhaps the threshold for CTE is quite high which is promising.
Like all other diseases/disorders, I think there's a heavy genetic component. Look at Howie Long and Terry Bradshaw. They both played in the league but Long was a DE and was definitely banging heads on every play that he was on the field for, but he seems totally healthy and lucid. I think some people just get unlucky with it. I guess more research will give better insights to the risk factors.
Originally Posted By AtomicVeggie
Fiancée is against it but I need my kids to do some sort of highly physical sport. MMA, football, boxing, BJJ, something. Can’t be raising snowflakes
As I said above, I think getting kids involved in some kind of team sport is essential. Doesn't have to bee football but I think all kids should play sports.
post 1624681231 12-06-2020, 01:37 PM
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Would disown son if he didn't become captain of the football team.
post 1624681701 12-06-2020, 01:42 PM
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post 1624681981 12-06-2020, 01:46 PM
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European football, sure. American football is very uncommon around here so no. Otherwise cardio and brain gains is where its at
post 1624682141 12-06-2020, 01:48 PM
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Sisters boyfriend played in high school, he got his back fuked up playing and has had multiple procedures done, he's 18 and has to take it easy like an old man or else hell risk fuking it up all over again.

Fuk that
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def not. would send to the army/10 tho
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Ehh football

Would rather see him in BJJ/wrestling

Would present CTE info and vids of people with it, and let him decide. High school means he’s gotta learn to make his own decisions anyways
post 1624682511 12-06-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By DSTEE
European football, sure. American football is very uncommon around here so no. Otherwise cardio and brain gains is where its at
What about other contact sports?
Originally Posted By ExistentialBrah
Sisters boyfriend played in high school, he got his back fuked up playing and has had multiple procedures done, he's 18 and has to take it easy like an old man or else hell risk fuking it up all over again.

Fuk that
Fuking brutal, sorry to hear it. That's definitely not what one wants for a kid, but you have to ask yourself how likely something like that is. It's a personal decision, though. I said "hypothetically" in the OP since I don't have kids and I don't know how I'd think about risk if I did.
Originally Posted By yieldtonothing
def not. would send to the army/10 tho
Not surprising considering you never did have the makings of a varsity athlete. I bet your father would laugh at the kind of son you'd have. lol.
post 1624699921 12-06-2020, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By LordBroly
What about other contact sports?
Where trauma against the head is common? Nope, don't see any applicable benefit of it. There are so many other sports to chose from, and my priority would be to protect and grow the cognition in the right direction
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yeah. but I’d make him big 275lb+ so he’s less likely to get injured
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Yes, but would encourage him to play positions where he is less likely to be taking so many constant knocks. From what I understand, linemen are the most prone no?

I played lb 15-18, in a league where it was like 70% run plays. Boy did i lose some brain cells those years. Can't imagine college and a 10year career on top.
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post 1624700841 12-06-2020, 05:26 PM
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If I have a son I plan on putting him in Jiu Jitsu and some boxing because I want him to be able to defend himself and not get bullied in school growing up.
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Let?

I would encourage it. If he genuinely hated it then I'd let him do something else like swimming or track, but he's 100% participating in competitive sports and preferably contact ones.

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Originally Posted By DSTEE
Where trauma against the head is common? Nope, don't see any applicable benefit of it. There are so many other sports to chose from, and my priority would be to protect and grow the cognition in the right direction
Like I said, it will be interesting to see what the effects are on cognition for the average player once more research has been completed. I am skeptical of the idea that it reduces/impairs a kid's cognitive abilities, but I can see why people are concerned. You're right about there being plenty of other sports to choose from.
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Yes, but would encourage him to play positions where he is less likely to be taking so many constant knocks. From what I understand, linemen are the most prone no?

I played lb 15-18, in a league where it was like 70% run plays. Boy did i lose some brain cells those years. Can't imagine college and a 10year career on top.
I would think linemen are the most prone, but like I mentioned earlier it seems like quite a few come away unscathed, at least as far as CTE.
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If I have a son I plan on putting him in Jiu Jitsu and some boxing because I want him to be able to defend himself and not get bullied in school growing up.
That's a good idea. I think more parents need to think like that. It seems like a lot of parents never even consider putting their kids in sports.
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Have two sons. Will make sure they try every sport other than football, boxing, gymnastics, and cheerleading.
What did you play growing up? Would you push them in that direction?
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Let?

I would encourage it. If he genuinely hated it then I'd let him do something else like swimming or track, but he's 100% participating in competitive sports and preferably contact ones.

All of the biggest *******s I've ever met never played sports growing up.
Yeah, as I've said ITT I think playing sports is important for development. I wish I had been able to continue in competitive, organized sports in HS as I had done up to that point. Even beyond all the developmental benefits, it just gives the kid something to enjoy and look forward to, provided he enjoys sports.
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I'd let him play all sports outside of football until middle school. My parents were the same way with me, and I hated it. They never told me the reason why and I was pretty pissed since I thought I'd never start in Middle School on. But now that I'm older and I see all these kids play with CTE being an issue. I wouldn't trust my kid playing football until they were under the supervision of a medical professional like a trainer, which would be in middle school. I played all contact sports growing up except for football, and I started in middle school. I ended up being a starter and I started all the way through high school. After that I never looked back and regretted not playing when I was younger. Even watching it now, it just doesn't seem like it's worth all the trouble to me. These kids have no idea how to tackle, and they just throw their bodies around.

I've seen young kids get concussions that never get treated since the kid doesn't know what happened since they are so young. I know kids who have gotten 8 concussions and they keep playing because their parents push them. Some kids too were smart as chit before a concussion and then became deadbeats after them. I knew a kid who was like top 5% of the class, and he got 3 concussions in two weeks, and since then he struggles in school and can't remember a lot of short term memories things.

There was a story too of this kid James Ransom where he got hit in a game, and afterwards his dad noticed he was out of it and asked if he was good, and the kid replied that his bell had been rung, as it has been many times before. Within a year the kids attitude changed completely and he ended up killing himself a year later at the age of 13. It's scary chit man seriously. They could play soccer, baseball, lacrosse, hockey, swim, or even fukking cheerleading for all I care. But to have your kid smashing helmets like an idiot in some league that doesn't matter under the supervision of coaches who might not recognize or even think of concussions is just too much for me.

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I have CTE SRS. Would never let my kids do any contact sport. I'm 42 and have the short term memory of a 90 year old man. I have all the signs of the condition.
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